Still no word from Rich on this dubious meeting.he has
Rich being a bit of a paranoid moralist when it comes to deals. So much so
posted dozens of posts regarding Collins trip to china. which as expected allcame to nothing.
Then the was the saudi deal. Rich was once again chasing wind mills.members. have been having clandestine talks with very rich drug
Now we know labour who are very short of cash due to lack of support and no
companies. Now nothing really wrong with that.on a particular drug.
But when Labour out of the blue. advocates spending large amounts of money
We here the warning bells of dirty deal.
Meanwhile not a word out of Rich8015> Why is that?
Maybe Guilty as sin. Labour are just laying low.
On 3/6/2016 2:52 PM, Liberty wrote:members. have been having clandestine talks with very rich drug
Still no word from Rich on this dubious meeting.
Rich being a bit of a paranoid moralist when it comes to deals. So much so he has
posted dozens of posts regarding Collins trip to china. which as expected all came to nothing.
Then the was the saudi deal. Rich was once again chasing wind mills.
Now we know labour who are very short of cash due to lack of support and no
on a particular drug.companies. Now nothing really wrong with that.
But when Labour out of the blue. advocates spending large amounts of money
We here the warning bells of dirty deal.rich has been given his orders..
Meanwhile not a word out of Rich8015> Why is that?
Maybe Guilty as sin. Labour are just laying low.
Ignore big Pharm subsidising Liebor and keep claiming TPP is going to
make medicines more expensive.
Or: its all John Keys fault
On Sun, 6 Mar 2016 16:06:24 +1300, george152 <gblack@hnpl.net> wrote:he has
On 3/6/2016 2:52 PM, Liberty wrote:
Still no word from Rich on this dubious meeting.
Rich being a bit of a paranoid moralist when it comes to deals. So much so
posted dozens of posts regarding Collins trip to china. which as expected all came to nothing.rich has been given his orders..
Then the was the saudi deal. Rich was once again chasing wind mills.
Now we know labour who are very short of cash due to lack of support and no members. have been having clandestine talks with very rich drug
companies. Now nothing really wrong with that.
But when Labour out of the blue. advocates spending large amounts of money on a particular drug.
We here the warning bells of dirty deal.
Meanwhile not a word out of Rich8015> Why is that?
Maybe Guilty as sin. Labour are just laying low.
Ignore big Pharm subsidising Liebor and keep claiming TPP is going to
make medicines more expensive.
Or: its all John Keys fault
It's the hypocrisy of Rich and his minions
Rich went mental over Collins having a meal in china.
why would a international drug company have a dinner with a
dysfunctional opposition party?
On Sun, 6 Mar 2016 16:06:24 +1300, george152 <gblack@hnpl.net> wrote:he has
On 3/6/2016 2:52 PM, Liberty wrote:
Still no word from Rich on this dubious meeting.
Rich being a bit of a paranoid moralist when it comes to deals. So much so
posted dozens of posts regarding Collins trip to china. which as expected all came to nothing.rich has been given his orders..
Then the was the saudi deal. Rich was once again chasing wind mills.
Now we know labour who are very short of cash due to lack of support and no members. have been having clandestine talks with very rich drug
companies. Now nothing really wrong with that.
But when Labour out of the blue. advocates spending large amounts of money on a particular drug.
We here the warning bells of dirty deal.
Meanwhile not a word out of Rich8015> Why is that?
Maybe Guilty as sin. Labour are just laying low.
Ignore big Pharm subsidising Liebor and keep claiming TPP is going to
make medicines more expensive.
Or: its all John Keys fault
It's the hypocrisy of Rich and his minions
Rich went mental over Collins having a meal in china.
why would a international drug company have a dinner with a
dysfunctional opposition party?
On 6/03/2016 5:10 p.m., Liberty wrote:
On Sun, 6 Mar 2016 16:06:24 +1300, george152 <gblack@hnpl.net> wrote:
On 3/6/2016 2:52 PM, Liberty wrote:
rich has been given his orders..
Still no word from Rich on this dubious meeting.
Rich being a bit of a paranoid moralist when it comes to deals. So much so he has
posted dozens of posts regarding Collins trip to china. which as expected all came to nothing.
Then the was the saudi deal. Rich was once again chasing wind mills.
Now we know labour who are very short of cash due to lack of support and no members. have been having clandestine talks with very rich drug
companies. Now nothing really wrong with that.
But when Labour out of the blue. advocates spending large amounts of money on a particular drug.
We here the warning bells of dirty deal.
Meanwhile not a word out of Rich8015> Why is that?
Maybe Guilty as sin. Labour are just laying low.
Ignore big Pharm subsidising Liebor and keep claiming TPP is going to
make medicines more expensive.
Or: its all John Keys fault
It's the hypocrisy of Rich and his minions
Rich went mental over Collins having a meal in china.
why would a international drug company have a dinner with a
dysfunctional opposition party?
Pretty normal for Medicines NZ to meet with politicians.
On Sun, 6 Mar 2016 18:22:43 +1300, victor <user1@example.net> wrote:all came to nothing.
On 6/03/2016 5:10 p.m., Liberty wrote:
On Sun, 6 Mar 2016 16:06:24 +1300, george152 <gblack@hnpl.net> wrote:
On 3/6/2016 2:52 PM, Liberty wrote:
Still no word from Rich on this dubious meeting.
Rich being a bit of a paranoid moralist when it comes to deals. So much so he has
posted dozens of posts regarding Collins trip to china. which as expected
no members. have been having clandestine talks with very rich drugThen the was the saudi deal. Rich was once again chasing wind mills. >>>>> Now we know labour who are very short of cash due to lack of support and
companies. Now nothing really wrong with that.rich has been given his orders..
But when Labour out of the blue. advocates spending large amounts of money on a particular drug.
We here the warning bells of dirty deal.
Meanwhile not a word out of Rich8015> Why is that?
Maybe Guilty as sin. Labour are just laying low.
Ignore big Pharm subsidising Liebor and keep claiming TPP is going to
make medicines more expensive.
Or: its all John Keys fault
It's the hypocrisy of Rich and his minions
Rich went mental over Collins having a meal in china.
why would a international drug company have a dinner with a
dysfunctional opposition party?
Pretty normal for Medicines NZ to meet with politicians.
What is getting the Nat-bots upset is that Labour were listening to
all those invovled - they think business shold only listen to National
- and National are embarrassed at Australia making decisions on drugs
for melanoma and laws for medical marijuana while they stuff around.
On 6/03/2016 5:10 p.m., Liberty wrote:
On Sun, 6 Mar 2016 16:06:24 +1300, george152 <gblack@hnpl.net> wrote:
On 3/6/2016 2:52 PM, Liberty wrote:
rich has been given his orders..
Still no word from Rich on this dubious meeting.
Rich being a bit of a paranoid moralist when it comes to deals. So much so he has
posted dozens of posts regarding Collins trip to china. which as expected all came to nothing.
Then the was the saudi deal. Rich was once again chasing wind mills.
Now we know labour who are very short of cash due to lack of support and no members. have been having clandestine talks with very rich drug
companies. Now nothing really wrong with that.
But when Labour out of the blue. advocates spending large amounts of money on a particular drug.
We here the warning bells of dirty deal.
Meanwhile not a word out of Rich8015> Why is that?
Maybe Guilty as sin. Labour are just laying low.
Ignore big Pharm subsidising Liebor and keep claiming TPP is going to
make medicines more expensive.
Or: its all John Keys fault
It's the hypocrisy of Rich and his minions
Rich went mental over Collins having a meal in china.
why would a international drug company have a dinner with a
dysfunctional opposition party?
Pretty normal for Medicines NZ to meet with politicians.
On 6/03/2016 5:10 p.m., Liberty wrote:
On Sun, 6 Mar 2016 16:06:24 +1300, george152 <gblack@hnpl.net> wrote:
On 3/6/2016 2:52 PM, Liberty wrote:
rich has been given his orders..
Still no word from Rich on this dubious meeting.
Rich being a bit of a paranoid moralist when it comes to deals. So
much so he has
posted dozens of posts regarding Collins trip to china. which as
expected all came to nothing.
Then the was the saudi deal. Rich was once again chasing wind mills.
Now we know labour who are very short of cash due to lack of
support and no members. have been having clandestine talks with very
rich drug
companies. Now nothing really wrong with that.
But when Labour out of the blue. advocates spending large amounts
of money on a particular drug.
We here the warning bells of dirty deal.
Meanwhile not a word out of Rich8015> Why is that?
Maybe Guilty as sin. Labour are just laying low.
Ignore big Pharm subsidising Liebor and keep claiming TPP is going to
make medicines more expensive.
Or: its all John Keys fault
It's the hypocrisy of Rich and his minions
Rich went mental over Collins having a meal in china.
why would a international drug company have a dinner with a
dysfunctional opposition party?
Pretty normal for Medicines NZ to meet with politicians.
On 3/6/2016 6:22 PM, victor wrote:Which of the companies that were at the meeting make drugs that are
On 6/03/2016 5:10 p.m., Liberty wrote:
On Sun, 6 Mar 2016 16:06:24 +1300, george152 <gblack@hnpl.net> wrote:
On 3/6/2016 2:52 PM, Liberty wrote:
rich has been given his orders..
Still no word from Rich on this dubious meeting.
Rich being a bit of a paranoid moralist when it comes to deals. So
much so he has
posted dozens of posts regarding Collins trip to china. which as
expected all came to nothing.
Then the was the saudi deal. Rich was once again chasing wind mills. >>>>> Now we know labour who are very short of cash due to lack of
support and no members. have been having clandestine talks with very >>>>> rich drug
companies. Now nothing really wrong with that.
But when Labour out of the blue. advocates spending large amounts
of money on a particular drug.
We here the warning bells of dirty deal.
Meanwhile not a word out of Rich8015> Why is that?
Maybe Guilty as sin. Labour are just laying low.
Ignore big Pharm subsidising Liebor and keep claiming TPP is going to
make medicines more expensive.
Or: its all John Keys fault
It's the hypocrisy of Rich and his minions
Rich went mental over Collins having a meal in china.
why would a international drug company have a dinner with a
dysfunctional opposition party?
Pretty normal for Medicines NZ to meet with politicians.
But its not 'Medicines NZ' it's the firm who makes the latest 'wonder >drug'....
I think there should be the same effort examining this as was expendedNo problem with that. You seem to be on top of this so I'm sure the
on Judith Collins and her 'cuppa' with her husband
On Mon, 7 Mar 2016 07:57:50 +1300, george152 <gblack@hnpl.net> wrote:
On 3/6/2016 6:22 PM, victor wrote:Which of the companies that were at the meeting make drugs that are
On 6/03/2016 5:10 p.m., Liberty wrote:
On Sun, 6 Mar 2016 16:06:24 +1300, george152 <gblack@hnpl.net> wrote:
On 3/6/2016 2:52 PM, Liberty wrote:
rich has been given his orders..
Still no word from Rich on this dubious meeting.
Rich being a bit of a paranoid moralist when it comes to deals. So >>>>>> much so he has
posted dozens of posts regarding Collins trip to china. which as
expected all came to nothing.
Then the was the saudi deal. Rich was once again chasing wind mills. >>>>>> Now we know labour who are very short of cash due to lack of
support and no members. have been having clandestine talks with very >>>>>> rich drug
companies. Now nothing really wrong with that.
But when Labour out of the blue. advocates spending large amounts >>>>>> of money on a particular drug.
We here the warning bells of dirty deal.
Meanwhile not a word out of Rich8015> Why is that?
Maybe Guilty as sin. Labour are just laying low.
Ignore big Pharm subsidising Liebor and keep claiming TPP is going to >>>>> make medicines more expensive.
Or: its all John Keys fault
It's the hypocrisy of Rich and his minions
Rich went mental over Collins having a meal in china.
why would a international drug company have a dinner with a
dysfunctional opposition party?
Pretty normal for Medicines NZ to meet with politicians.
But its not 'Medicines NZ' it's the firm who makes the latest 'wonder
drug'....
purchased in New Zealand, George, and which one makes the drug you
refer to? Just who was it that Little had a meeting with?
Is there in your view something inherently wrong with an Opposition
leader meeting with businesses that trade in New Zealand?
I think there should be the same effort examining this as was expendedNo problem with that. You seem to be on top of this so I'm sure the
on Judith Collins and her 'cuppa' with her husband
answers to the following will be easy - alternatively you may want to
give a media cite giving some of the answers.
Which of the companies does Andrew Little or his family have
investments in or has a family member who is a director of the
company? How does that compare with the meeting Collins had with
Oravida?
Did the companies get publicity and possible trading benefit in their
market from having a meeting witht he Leader of the Opposition? How
does that compare with the meeting Collins had with Oravida?
How much taxpayer money was involved in transporting Andrew Little to
the meeting? How does that compare with the meeting Collins had with Oravida?
What impropriety are you alleging occured? Have the media or other
political parties claimed any problems with the meeting? How does that compare with the meeting Collins had with Oravida?
On 7/03/2016 9:01 a.m., Rich80105 wrote:
On Mon, 7 Mar 2016 07:57:50 +1300, george152 <gblack@hnpl.net> wrote:
On 3/6/2016 6:22 PM, victor wrote:Which of the companies that were at the meeting make drugs that are
On 6/03/2016 5:10 p.m., Liberty wrote:
On Sun, 6 Mar 2016 16:06:24 +1300, george152 <gblack@hnpl.net> wrote: >>>>>
On 3/6/2016 2:52 PM, Liberty wrote:
rich has been given his orders..
Still no word from Rich on this dubious meeting.
Rich being a bit of a paranoid moralist when it comes to deals. So >>>>>>> much so he has
posted dozens of posts regarding Collins trip to china. which as >>>>>>> expected all came to nothing.
Then the was the saudi deal. Rich was once again chasing wind mills. >>>>>>> Now we know labour who are very short of cash due to lack of
support and no members. have been having clandestine talks with very >>>>>>> rich drug
companies. Now nothing really wrong with that.
But when Labour out of the blue. advocates spending large amounts >>>>>>> of money on a particular drug.
We here the warning bells of dirty deal.
Meanwhile not a word out of Rich8015> Why is that?
Maybe Guilty as sin. Labour are just laying low.
Ignore big Pharm subsidising Liebor and keep claiming TPP is going to >>>>>> make medicines more expensive.
Or: its all John Keys fault
It's the hypocrisy of Rich and his minions
Rich went mental over Collins having a meal in china.
why would a international drug company have a dinner with a
dysfunctional opposition party?
Pretty normal for Medicines NZ to meet with politicians.
But its not 'Medicines NZ' it's the firm who makes the latest 'wonder
drug'....
purchased in New Zealand, George, and which one makes the drug you
refer to? Just who was it that Little had a meeting with?
Is there in your view something inherently wrong with an Opposition
leader meeting with businesses that trade in New Zealand?
I think there should be the same effort examining this as was expendedNo problem with that. You seem to be on top of this so I'm sure the
on Judith Collins and her 'cuppa' with her husband
answers to the following will be easy - alternatively you may want to
give a media cite giving some of the answers.
Which of the companies does Andrew Little or his family have
investments in or has a family member who is a director of the
company? How does that compare with the meeting Collins had with
Oravida?
Did the companies get publicity and possible trading benefit in their
market from having a meeting witht he Leader of the Opposition? How
does that compare with the meeting Collins had with Oravida?
How much taxpayer money was involved in transporting Andrew Little to
the meeting? How does that compare with the meeting Collins had with
Oravida?
What impropriety are you alleging occured? Have the media or other
political parties claimed any problems with the meeting? How does that
compare with the meeting Collins had with Oravida?
There goes another night's sleep for you, worrying about all those
questions. There's bound to be some you haven't even thought of yet.
Should keep you up all night tonight as well.
On Mon, 07 Mar 2016 09:01:31 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:I didnt réalise it was her husband's place of work - are you sure
On Mon, 7 Mar 2016 07:57:50 +1300, george152 <gblack@hnpl.net> wrote:
On 3/6/2016 6:22 PM, victor wrote:Which of the companies that were at the meeting make drugs that are >>purchased in New Zealand, George, and which one makes the drug you
On 6/03/2016 5:10 p.m., Liberty wrote:
On Sun, 6 Mar 2016 16:06:24 +1300, george152 <gblack@hnpl.net> wrote: >>>>>
On 3/6/2016 2:52 PM, Liberty wrote:
rich has been given his orders..
Still no word from Rich on this dubious meeting.
Rich being a bit of a paranoid moralist when it comes to deals. So >>>>>>> much so he has
posted dozens of posts regarding Collins trip to china. which as >>>>>>> expected all came to nothing.
Then the was the saudi deal. Rich was once again chasing wind mills. >>>>>>> Now we know labour who are very short of cash due to lack of
support and no members. have been having clandestine talks with very >>>>>>> rich drug
companies. Now nothing really wrong with that.
But when Labour out of the blue. advocates spending large amounts >>>>>>> of money on a particular drug.
We here the warning bells of dirty deal.
Meanwhile not a word out of Rich8015> Why is that?
Maybe Guilty as sin. Labour are just laying low.
Ignore big Pharm subsidising Liebor and keep claiming TPP is going to >>>>>> make medicines more expensive.
Or: its all John Keys fault
It's the hypocrisy of Rich and his minions
Rich went mental over Collins having a meal in china.
why would a international drug company have a dinner with a
dysfunctional opposition party?
Pretty normal for Medicines NZ to meet with politicians.
But its not 'Medicines NZ' it's the firm who makes the latest 'wonder >>>drug'....
refer to? Just who was it that Little had a meeting with?
Is there in your view something inherently wrong with an Opposition
leader meeting with businesses that trade in New Zealand?
I think there should be the same effort examining this as was expendedNo problem with that. You seem to be on top of this so I'm sure the
on Judith Collins and her 'cuppa' with her husband
answers to the following will be easy - alternatively you may want to
give a media cite giving some of the answers.
Which of the companies does Andrew Little or his family have
investments in or has a family member who is a director of the
company? How does that compare with the meeting Collins had with
Oravida?
What is Collins husband having a few shares in the company got to do with it.
It is quite normal for a wife's to call into their husbands work for a cup of tea.
Really? What trap is that? Do you have a cite?
Did the companies get publicity and possible trading benefit in their >>market from having a meeting witht he Leader of the Opposition? How
does that compare with the meeting Collins had with Oravida?
How much taxpayer money was involved in transporting Andrew Little to
the meeting? How does that compare with the meeting Collins had with >>Oravida?
What impropriety are you alleging occured? Have the media or other >>political parties claimed any problems with the meeting? How does that >>compare with the meeting Collins had with Oravida?
The word around the traps is Labour is financially tight.
Labour has a meeting with very rich drug company.Did they? Do you have a cite for that? Who was at the meeting? What
A few weeks later Lefty TV have a cry of the week story on a wonder drug. What drug is that, Liberty? What do the media have to say about it? Oris this all in your mind?
Labour then claim they would fund the wonder drug when they are in office LOLWhy does it look a bit seedy, Liberty?
Looks a bit seedy.
On Mon, 7 Mar 2016 07:57:50 +1300, george152 <gblack@hnpl.net> wrote:
On 3/6/2016 6:22 PM, victor wrote:Which of the companies that were at the meeting make drugs that are
On 6/03/2016 5:10 p.m., Liberty wrote:
On Sun, 6 Mar 2016 16:06:24 +1300, george152 <gblack@hnpl.net> wrote:
On 3/6/2016 2:52 PM, Liberty wrote:
rich has been given his orders..
Still no word from Rich on this dubious meeting.
Rich being a bit of a paranoid moralist when it comes to deals. So >>>>>> much so he has
posted dozens of posts regarding Collins trip to china. which as
expected all came to nothing.
Then the was the saudi deal. Rich was once again chasing wind mills. >>>>>> Now we know labour who are very short of cash due to lack of
support and no members. have been having clandestine talks with very >>>>>> rich drug
companies. Now nothing really wrong with that.
But when Labour out of the blue. advocates spending large amounts >>>>>> of money on a particular drug.
We here the warning bells of dirty deal.
Meanwhile not a word out of Rich8015> Why is that?
Maybe Guilty as sin. Labour are just laying low.
Ignore big Pharm subsidising Liebor and keep claiming TPP is going to >>>>> make medicines more expensive.
Or: its all John Keys fault
It's the hypocrisy of Rich and his minions
Rich went mental over Collins having a meal in china.
why would a international drug company have a dinner with a
dysfunctional opposition party?
Pretty normal for Medicines NZ to meet with politicians.
But its not 'Medicines NZ' it's the firm who makes the latest 'wonder >>drug'....
purchased in New Zealand, George, and which one makes the drug you
refer to? Just who was it that Little had a meeting with?
Is there in your view something inherently wrong with an Opposition
leader meeting with businesses that trade in New Zealand?
I think there should be the same effort examining this as was expendedNo problem with that. You seem to be on top of this so I'm sure the
on Judith Collins and her 'cuppa' with her husband
answers to the following will be easy - alternatively you may want to
give a media cite giving some of the answers.
Which of the companies does Andrew Little or his family have
investments in or has a family member who is a director of the
company? How does that compare with the meeting Collins had with
Oravida?
Did the companies get publicity and possible trading benefit in their
market from having a meeting witht he Leader of the Opposition? How
does that compare with the meeting Collins had with Oravida?
How much taxpayer money was involved in transporting Andrew Little to
the meeting? How does that compare with the meeting Collins had with >Oravida?
What impropriety are you alleging occured? Have the media or other
political parties claimed any problems with the meeting? How does that >compare with the meeting Collins had with Oravida?
On Sun, 06 Mar 2016 18:29:25 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot netNo please read what I said, economy size and culture (their very different health system) makes a dramatic and obvious difference.
dot nz> wrote:
Liberty <liberty48@live.com> wrote:
On Sun, 06 Mar 2016 23:28:32 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>Indeed and Rich never makes allowances for different econmy sizes or culture >>when comparing countries, why take note of something so important?
On Sun, 6 Mar 2016 18:22:43 +1300, victor <user1@example.net> wrote:
On 6/03/2016 5:10 p.m., Liberty wrote:
On Sun, 6 Mar 2016 16:06:24 +1300, george152 <gblack@hnpl.net> wrote: >>>>>>
On 3/6/2016 2:52 PM, Liberty wrote:
rich has been given his orders..
Still no word from Rich on this dubious meeting.
Rich being a bit of a paranoid moralist when it comes to deals. So >>>>>>>>much
so he has
posted dozens of posts regarding Collins trip to china. which as >>>>>>>>expected all came to nothing.
Then the was the saudi deal. Rich was once again chasing wind mills. >>>>>>>> Now we know labour who are very short of cash due to lack of support >>>>>>>>and no members. have been having clandestine talks with very rich drug >>>>>>>> companies. Now nothing really wrong with that.
But when Labour out of the blue. advocates spending large amounts of >>>>>>>>money on a particular drug.
We here the warning bells of dirty deal.
Meanwhile not a word out of Rich8015> Why is that?
Maybe Guilty as sin. Labour are just laying low.
Ignore big Pharm subsidising Liebor and keep claiming TPP is going to >>>>>>> make medicines more expensive.
Or: its all John Keys fault
It's the hypocrisy of Rich and his minions
Rich went mental over Collins having a meal in china.
why would a international drug company have a dinner with a
dysfunctional opposition party?
Pretty normal for Medicines NZ to meet with politicians.
What is getting the Nat-bots upset is that Labour were listening to
all those invovled - they think business shold only listen to National >>>>- and National are embarrassed at Australia making decisions on drugs >>>>for melanoma and laws for medical marijuana while they stuff around.
You are off topic again Rich.
We are not talking about Australia.
Tony
Are you saying that Australia's size makes it easier for them to
afford new melanoma drugs
and to permit use of marijuana on prescription?
Liberty <liberty48@live.com> wrote:
On Sun, 06 Mar 2016 23:28:32 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote: >>Indeed and Rich never makes allowances for different econmy sizes or culture >when comparing countries, why take note of something so important?
On Sun, 6 Mar 2016 18:22:43 +1300, victor <user1@example.net> wrote:
On 6/03/2016 5:10 p.m., Liberty wrote:
On Sun, 6 Mar 2016 16:06:24 +1300, george152 <gblack@hnpl.net> wrote: >>>>>
On 3/6/2016 2:52 PM, Liberty wrote:
rich has been given his orders..
Still no word from Rich on this dubious meeting.
Rich being a bit of a paranoid moralist when it comes to deals. So much
so he has
posted dozens of posts regarding Collins trip to china. which as >>>>>>>expected all came to nothing.
Then the was the saudi deal. Rich was once again chasing wind mills. >>>>>>> Now we know labour who are very short of cash due to lack of support >>>>>>>and no members. have been having clandestine talks with very rich drug >>>>>>> companies. Now nothing really wrong with that.
But when Labour out of the blue. advocates spending large amounts of >>>>>>>money on a particular drug.
We here the warning bells of dirty deal.
Meanwhile not a word out of Rich8015> Why is that?
Maybe Guilty as sin. Labour are just laying low.
Ignore big Pharm subsidising Liebor and keep claiming TPP is going to >>>>>> make medicines more expensive.
Or: its all John Keys fault
It's the hypocrisy of Rich and his minions
Rich went mental over Collins having a meal in china.
why would a international drug company have a dinner with a
dysfunctional opposition party?
Pretty normal for Medicines NZ to meet with politicians.
What is getting the Nat-bots upset is that Labour were listening to
all those invovled - they think business shold only listen to National
- and National are embarrassed at Australia making decisions on drugs
for melanoma and laws for medical marijuana while they stuff around.
You are off topic again Rich.
We are not talking about Australia.
Tony
On Sun, 06 Mar 2016 23:28:32 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:Indeed and Rich never makes allowances for different econmy sizes or culture when comparing countries, why take note of something so important?
On Sun, 6 Mar 2016 18:22:43 +1300, victor <user1@example.net> wrote:
On 6/03/2016 5:10 p.m., Liberty wrote:
On Sun, 6 Mar 2016 16:06:24 +1300, george152 <gblack@hnpl.net> wrote:
On 3/6/2016 2:52 PM, Liberty wrote:
rich has been given his orders..
Still no word from Rich on this dubious meeting.
Rich being a bit of a paranoid moralist when it comes to deals. So much >>>>>>so he has
posted dozens of posts regarding Collins trip to china. which as >>>>>>expected all came to nothing.
Then the was the saudi deal. Rich was once again chasing wind mills. >>>>>> Now we know labour who are very short of cash due to lack of support >>>>>>and no members. have been having clandestine talks with very rich drug >>>>>> companies. Now nothing really wrong with that.
But when Labour out of the blue. advocates spending large amounts of >>>>>>money on a particular drug.
We here the warning bells of dirty deal.
Meanwhile not a word out of Rich8015> Why is that?
Maybe Guilty as sin. Labour are just laying low.
Ignore big Pharm subsidising Liebor and keep claiming TPP is going to >>>>> make medicines more expensive.
Or: its all John Keys fault
It's the hypocrisy of Rich and his minions
Rich went mental over Collins having a meal in china.
why would a international drug company have a dinner with a
dysfunctional opposition party?
Pretty normal for Medicines NZ to meet with politicians.
What is getting the Nat-bots upset is that Labour were listening to
all those invovled - they think business shold only listen to National
- and National are embarrassed at Australia making decisions on drugs
for melanoma and laws for medical marijuana while they stuff around.
You are off topic again Rich.
We are not talking about Australia.
Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
No please read what I said, economy size and culture (their very different health system) makes a dramatic and obvious difference.
Are you saying that Australia's size makes it easier for them to
afford new melanoma drugs
and to permit use of marijuana on prescription?
Tony
On 3/6/2016 6:22 PM, victor wrote:
On 6/03/2016 5:10 p.m., Liberty wrote:
On Sun, 6 Mar 2016 16:06:24 +1300, george152 <gblack@hnpl.net> wrote:
On 3/6/2016 2:52 PM, Liberty wrote:
rich has been given his orders..
Still no word from Rich on this dubious meeting.
Rich being a bit of a paranoid moralist when it comes to deals. So
much so he has
posted dozens of posts regarding Collins trip to china. which as
expected all came to nothing.
Then the was the saudi deal. Rich was once again chasing wind mills. >>>>> Now we know labour who are very short of cash due to lack of
support and no members. have been having clandestine talks with very >>>>> rich drug
companies. Now nothing really wrong with that.
But when Labour out of the blue. advocates spending large amounts
of money on a particular drug.
We here the warning bells of dirty deal.
Meanwhile not a word out of Rich8015> Why is that?
Maybe Guilty as sin. Labour are just laying low.
Ignore big Pharm subsidising Liebor and keep claiming TPP is going to
make medicines more expensive.
Or: its all John Keys fault
It's the hypocrisy of Rich and his minions
Rich went mental over Collins having a meal in china.
why would a international drug company have a dinner with a
dysfunctional opposition party?
Pretty normal for Medicines NZ to meet with politicians.
But its not 'Medicines NZ' it's the firm who makes the latest 'wonder drug'....
I think there should be the same effort examining this as was expended
on Judith Collins and her 'cuppa' with her husband
Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 06 Mar 2016 18:29:25 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot netNo please read what I said, economy size and culture (their very different >health system) makes a dramatic and obvious difference.
dot nz> wrote:
Liberty <liberty48@live.com> wrote:
On Sun, 06 Mar 2016 23:28:32 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>Indeed and Rich never makes allowances for different econmy sizes or culture >>>when comparing countries, why take note of something so important?
On Sun, 6 Mar 2016 18:22:43 +1300, victor <user1@example.net> wrote:
On 6/03/2016 5:10 p.m., Liberty wrote:
On Sun, 6 Mar 2016 16:06:24 +1300, george152 <gblack@hnpl.net> wrote: >>>>>>>
On 3/6/2016 2:52 PM, Liberty wrote:
rich has been given his orders..
Still no word from Rich on this dubious meeting.
Rich being a bit of a paranoid moralist when it comes to deals. So >>>>>>>>>much
so he has
posted dozens of posts regarding Collins trip to china. which as >>>>>>>>>expected all came to nothing.
Then the was the saudi deal. Rich was once again chasing wind mills. >>>>>>>>> Now we know labour who are very short of cash due to lack of support >>>>>>>>>and no members. have been having clandestine talks with very rich drug
companies. Now nothing really wrong with that.
But when Labour out of the blue. advocates spending large amounts of
money on a particular drug.
We here the warning bells of dirty deal.
Meanwhile not a word out of Rich8015> Why is that?
Maybe Guilty as sin. Labour are just laying low.
Ignore big Pharm subsidising Liebor and keep claiming TPP is going to >>>>>>>> make medicines more expensive.
Or: its all John Keys fault
It's the hypocrisy of Rich and his minions
Rich went mental over Collins having a meal in china.
why would a international drug company have a dinner with a
dysfunctional opposition party?
Pretty normal for Medicines NZ to meet with politicians.
What is getting the Nat-bots upset is that Labour were listening to >>>>>all those invovled - they think business shold only listen to National >>>>>- and National are embarrassed at Australia making decisions on drugs >>>>>for melanoma and laws for medical marijuana while they stuff around.
You are off topic again Rich.
We are not talking about Australia.
Tony
Are you saying that Australia's size makes it easier for them to
afford new melanoma drugs
and to permit use of marijuana on prescription?
Tony
On Sun, 6 Mar 2016 18:22:43 +1300, victor <user1@example.net> wrote:all came to nothing.
On 6/03/2016 5:10 p.m., Liberty wrote:
On Sun, 6 Mar 2016 16:06:24 +1300, george152 <gblack@hnpl.net> wrote:
On 3/6/2016 2:52 PM, Liberty wrote:
Still no word from Rich on this dubious meeting.
Rich being a bit of a paranoid moralist when it comes to deals. So much so he has
posted dozens of posts regarding Collins trip to china. which as expected
no members. have been having clandestine talks with very rich drugThen the was the saudi deal. Rich was once again chasing wind mills. >>>>> Now we know labour who are very short of cash due to lack of support and
drugs?companies. Now nothing really wrong with that.rich has been given his orders..
But when Labour out of the blue. advocates spending large amounts of money on a particular drug.
We here the warning bells of dirty deal.
Meanwhile not a word out of Rich8015> Why is that?
Maybe Guilty as sin. Labour are just laying low.
Ignore big Pharm subsidising Liebor and keep claiming TPP is going to
make medicines more expensive.
Or: its all John Keys fault
It's the hypocrisy of Rich and his minions
Rich went mental over Collins having a meal in china.
why would a international drug company have a dinner with a
dysfunctional opposition party?
Pretty normal for Medicines NZ to meet with politicians.
Explain the difference between A milk importer and a drug company ?
While you are at it. Explain why Labour became a big supporter of one of the
On Monday, 7 March 2016 14:56:57 UTC+13, victor wrote:money on a particular drug.
On 6/03/2016 8:58 p.m., Liberty wrote:
On Sun, 6 Mar 2016 18:22:43 +1300, victor <user1@example.net> wrote:
On 6/03/2016 5:10 p.m., Liberty wrote:
On Sun, 6 Mar 2016 16:06:24 +1300, george152 <gblack@hnpl.net> wrote:
On 3/6/2016 2:52 PM, Liberty wrote:
Still no word from Rich on this dubious meeting.
Rich being a bit of a paranoid moralist when it comes to deals. So much so he has
posted dozens of posts regarding Collins trip to china. which as expected all came to nothing.
Then the was the saudi deal. Rich was once again chasing wind mills. >> >>>>> Now we know labour who are very short of cash due to lack of support and no members. have been having clandestine talks with very rich drug
companies. Now nothing really wrong with that.
But when Labour out of the blue. advocates spending large amounts of
We here the warning bells of dirty deal.rich has been given his orders..
Meanwhile not a word out of Rich8015> Why is that?
Maybe Guilty as sin. Labour are just laying low.
Ignore big Pharm subsidising Liebor and keep claiming TPP is going to >> >>>> make medicines more expensive.
Or: its all John Keys fault
It's the hypocrisy of Rich and his minions
Rich went mental over Collins having a meal in china.
why would a international drug company have a dinner with a
dysfunctional opposition party?
Pretty normal for Medicines NZ to meet with politicians.
Explain the difference between A milk importer and a drug company ?
While you are at it. Explain why Labour became a big supporter of one of the drugs?
A milk importer imports milk. Collins tried using ministerial influence
to get advantages over other NZ exporters for her husbands firm.
Making shit up again, victor?
Please cite something authoritative that
1) Collins was trying to use her influence
2) Her husband was an owner or employee of Oravida
Medicines NZ is an industry organization that is a stakeholder in
dealings with Pharmac. They are interested in party policy on Pharmac.
Labour representing the interests of advanced Melanoma sufferers.
Coleman and Pharmac changed their story once there was some public pressure.
On 6/03/2016 8:58 p.m., Liberty wrote:much so he has
On Sun, 6 Mar 2016 18:22:43 +1300, victor <user1@example.net> wrote:
On 6/03/2016 5:10 p.m., Liberty wrote:
On Sun, 6 Mar 2016 16:06:24 +1300, george152 <gblack@hnpl.net> wrote:
On 3/6/2016 2:52 PM, Liberty wrote:
Still no word from Rich on this dubious meeting.
Rich being a bit of a paranoid moralist when it comes to deals. So
expected all came to nothing.posted dozens of posts regarding Collins trip to china. which as
and no members. have been having clandestine talks with very rich drugThen the was the saudi deal. Rich was once again chasing wind mills. >>>>> Now we know labour who are very short of cash due to lack of support
money on a particular drug.companies. Now nothing really wrong with that.
But when Labour out of the blue. advocates spending large amounts of
the drugs?We here the warning bells of dirty deal.rich has been given his orders..
Meanwhile not a word out of Rich8015> Why is that?
Maybe Guilty as sin. Labour are just laying low.
Ignore big Pharm subsidising Liebor and keep claiming TPP is going to >>>> make medicines more expensive.
Or: its all John Keys fault
It's the hypocrisy of Rich and his minions
Rich went mental over Collins having a meal in china.
why would a international drug company have a dinner with a
dysfunctional opposition party?
Pretty normal for Medicines NZ to meet with politicians.
Explain the difference between A milk importer and a drug company ?
While you are at it. Explain why Labour became a big supporter of one of
A milk importer imports milk. Collins tried using ministerial influence
to get advantages over other NZ exporters for her husbands firm.
Medicines NZ is an industry organization that is a stakeholder in
dealings with Pharmac. They are interested in party policy on Pharmac.
Labour representing the interests of advanced Melanoma sufferers.
Coleman and Pharmac changed their story once there was some public pressure.
Do carry on making up reasons, but its mainly old white people that
suffer from Melanoma so National will change tack.
On Sun, 6 Mar 2016 18:28:08 -0800 (PST), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>much so he has
wrote:
On Monday, 7 March 2016 14:56:57 UTC+13, victor wrote:
On 6/03/2016 8:58 p.m., Liberty wrote:
On Sun, 6 Mar 2016 18:22:43 +1300, victor <user1@example.net> wrote:
On 6/03/2016 5:10 p.m., Liberty wrote:
On Sun, 6 Mar 2016 16:06:24 +1300, george152 <gblack@hnpl.net> wrote: >> >>>
On 3/6/2016 2:52 PM, Liberty wrote:
Still no word from Rich on this dubious meeting.
Rich being a bit of a paranoid moralist when it comes to deals. So
expected all came to nothing.posted dozens of posts regarding Collins trip to china. which as
support and no members. have been having clandestine talks with very rich drugThen the was the saudi deal. Rich was once again chasing wind mills. >> >>>>> Now we know labour who are very short of cash due to lack of
of money on a particular drug.companies. Now nothing really wrong with that.
But when Labour out of the blue. advocates spending large amounts
the drugs?We here the warning bells of dirty deal.rich has been given his orders..
Meanwhile not a word out of Rich8015> Why is that?
Maybe Guilty as sin. Labour are just laying low.
Ignore big Pharm subsidising Liebor and keep claiming TPP is going to >> >>>> make medicines more expensive.
Or: its all John Keys fault
It's the hypocrisy of Rich and his minions
Rich went mental over Collins having a meal in china.
why would a international drug company have a dinner with a
dysfunctional opposition party?
Pretty normal for Medicines NZ to meet with politicians.
Explain the difference between A milk importer and a drug company ?
While you are at it. Explain why Labour became a big supporter of one of
A milk importer imports milk. Collins tried using ministerial influence
to get advantages over other NZ exporters for her husbands firm.
Making shit up again, victor?
Please cite something authoritative that
1) Collins was trying to use her influence
2) Her husband was an owner or employee of Oravida
Just Google Collins Oravida, and there are a lot of articles: http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/10013696/Judith-Collins-regrets-Oravida-interactions
http://www.newshub.co.nz/politics/timeline-judith-collins-and-oravida-2014050512#axzz42BMOqQy2
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11249833 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judith_Collins
etc
pressure.Medicines NZ is an industry organization that is a stakeholder in
dealings with Pharmac. They are interested in party policy on Pharmac.
Labour representing the interests of advanced Melanoma sufferers.
Coleman and Pharmac changed their story once there was some public
On Sun, 6 Mar 2016 18:28:08 -0800 (PST), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>much so he has
wrote:
On Monday, 7 March 2016 14:56:57 UTC+13, victor wrote:
On 6/03/2016 8:58 p.m., Liberty wrote:
On Sun, 6 Mar 2016 18:22:43 +1300, victor <user1@example.net> wrote:
On 6/03/2016 5:10 p.m., Liberty wrote:
On Sun, 6 Mar 2016 16:06:24 +1300, george152 <gblack@hnpl.net> wrote: >> >>>
On 3/6/2016 2:52 PM, Liberty wrote:
Still no word from Rich on this dubious meeting.
Rich being a bit of a paranoid moralist when it comes to deals. So
expected all came to nothing.posted dozens of posts regarding Collins trip to china. which as
support and no members. have been having clandestine talks with very rich drugThen the was the saudi deal. Rich was once again chasing wind mills. >> >>>>> Now we know labour who are very short of cash due to lack of
of money on a particular drug.companies. Now nothing really wrong with that.
But when Labour out of the blue. advocates spending large amounts
the drugs?We here the warning bells of dirty deal.rich has been given his orders..
Meanwhile not a word out of Rich8015> Why is that?
Maybe Guilty as sin. Labour are just laying low.
Ignore big Pharm subsidising Liebor and keep claiming TPP is going to >> >>>> make medicines more expensive.
Or: its all John Keys fault
It's the hypocrisy of Rich and his minions
Rich went mental over Collins having a meal in china.
why would a international drug company have a dinner with a
dysfunctional opposition party?
Pretty normal for Medicines NZ to meet with politicians.
Explain the difference between A milk importer and a drug company ?
While you are at it. Explain why Labour became a big supporter of one of
A milk importer imports milk. Collins tried using ministerial influence >> to get advantages over other NZ exporters for her husbands firm.
Making shit up again, victor?
Please cite something authoritative that
1) Collins was trying to use her influence
2) Her husband was an owner or employee of Oravida
Just Google Collins Oravida, and there are a lot of articles: http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/10013696/Judith-Collins-regrets-Oravida-interactions
http://www.newshub.co.nz/politics/timeline-judith-collins-and-oravida-2014050512#axzz42BMOqQy2
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11249833 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judith_Collins
etc
pressure.Medicines NZ is an industry organization that is a stakeholder in
dealings with Pharmac. They are interested in party policy on Pharmac.
Labour representing the interests of advanced Melanoma sufferers.
Coleman and Pharmac changed their story once there was some public
On Sun, 06 Mar 2016 18:52:02 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot netI thought you would know but very briefly there is a limited health service provided free in Australia, most people there take out health insurance. We have an unlimited health service (to all intents and purposes) so the dynamics are obviously different.
dot nz> wrote:
Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 06 Mar 2016 18:29:25 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot netNo please read what I said, economy size and culture (their very different >>health system) makes a dramatic and obvious difference.
dot nz> wrote:
Liberty <liberty48@live.com> wrote:
On Sun, 06 Mar 2016 23:28:32 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:Indeed and Rich never makes allowances for different econmy sizes or >>>>culture
On Sun, 6 Mar 2016 18:22:43 +1300, victor <user1@example.net> wrote: >>>>>>You are off topic again Rich.
On 6/03/2016 5:10 p.m., Liberty wrote:
On Sun, 6 Mar 2016 16:06:24 +1300, george152 <gblack@hnpl.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>
On 3/6/2016 2:52 PM, Liberty wrote:
rich has been given his orders..
Still no word from Rich on this dubious meeting.
Rich being a bit of a paranoid moralist when it comes to deals. So >>>>>>>>>>much
so he has
posted dozens of posts regarding Collins trip to china. which as >>>>>>>>>>expected all came to nothing.
Then the was the saudi deal. Rich was once again chasing wind mills. >>>>>>>>>> Now we know labour who are very short of cash due to lack of >>>>>>>>>>support
and no members. have been having clandestine talks with very rich >>>>>>>>>>drug
companies. Now nothing really wrong with that.
But when Labour out of the blue. advocates spending large amounts >>>>>>>>>>of
money on a particular drug.
We here the warning bells of dirty deal.
Meanwhile not a word out of Rich8015> Why is that?
Maybe Guilty as sin. Labour are just laying low.
Ignore big Pharm subsidising Liebor and keep claiming TPP is going to >>>>>>>>> make medicines more expensive.
Or: its all John Keys fault
It's the hypocrisy of Rich and his minions
Rich went mental over Collins having a meal in china.
why would a international drug company have a dinner with a
dysfunctional opposition party?
Pretty normal for Medicines NZ to meet with politicians.
What is getting the Nat-bots upset is that Labour were listening to >>>>>>all those invovled - they think business shold only listen to National >>>>>>- and National are embarrassed at Australia making decisions on drugs >>>>>>for melanoma and laws for medical marijuana while they stuff around. >>>>>
We are not talking about Australia.
when comparing countries, why take note of something so important?
Tony
Are you saying that Australia's size makes it easier for them to
afford new melanoma drugs
So what difference does it make, Tony?
and to permit use of marijuana on prescription?
Tony
On 7/03/2016 1:52 p.m., Tony wrote:I have no need to make up reasons, unlike you and Rich I do not lie.
Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
No please read what I said, economy size and culture (their very different >> health system) makes a dramatic and obvious difference.
Are you saying that Australia's size makes it easier for them to
afford new melanoma drugs
and to permit use of marijuana on prescription?
Tony
Do carry on making up reasons, but its mainly old white people that
suffer from Melanoma so National will change tack.
On Monday, 7 March 2016 16:00:04 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:much so he has
On Sun, 6 Mar 2016 18:28:08 -0800 (PST), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Monday, 7 March 2016 14:56:57 UTC+13, victor wrote:
On 6/03/2016 8:58 p.m., Liberty wrote:
On Sun, 6 Mar 2016 18:22:43 +1300, victor <user1@example.net> wrote:
On 6/03/2016 5:10 p.m., Liberty wrote:
On Sun, 6 Mar 2016 16:06:24 +1300, george152 <gblack@hnpl.net> wrote: >> >> >>>
On 3/6/2016 2:52 PM, Liberty wrote:
Still no word from Rich on this dubious meeting.
Rich being a bit of a paranoid moralist when it comes to deals. So
of money on a particular drug.posted dozens of posts regarding Collins trip to china. which as expected all came to nothing.
Then the was the saudi deal. Rich was once again chasing wind mills.
Now we know labour who are very short of cash due to lack of support and no members. have been having clandestine talks with very rich drug >> >> >>>>> companies. Now nothing really wrong with that.
But when Labour out of the blue. advocates spending large amounts
Yep, any Wiki page about a politician will have been crawled all overWe here the warning bells of dirty deal.rich has been given his orders..
Meanwhile not a word out of Rich8015> Why is that?
Maybe Guilty as sin. Labour are just laying low.
Ignore big Pharm subsidising Liebor and keep claiming TPP is going to
make medicines more expensive.
Or: its all John Keys fault
It's the hypocrisy of Rich and his minions
Rich went mental over Collins having a meal in china.
why would a international drug company have a dinner with a
dysfunctional opposition party?
Pretty normal for Medicines NZ to meet with politicians.
Explain the difference between A milk importer and a drug company ? >> >> > While you are at it. Explain why Labour became a big supporter of one of the drugs?
A milk importer imports milk. Collins tried using ministerial influence >> >> to get advantages over other NZ exporters for her husbands firm.
Making shit up again, victor?
Please cite something authoritative that
1) Collins was trying to use her influence
2) Her husband was an owner or employee of Oravida
Just Google Collins Oravida, and there are a lot of articles:
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/10013696/Judith-Collins-regrets-Oravida-interactions
http://www.newshub.co.nz/politics/timeline-judith-collins-and-oravida-2014050512#axzz42BMOqQy2
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11249833
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judith_Collins
etc
Geez, even my school age children know better than to use Wikipedia in a citation and why.
Medicines NZ is an industry organization that is a stakeholder in
dealings with Pharmac. They are interested in party policy on Pharmac.
Labour representing the interests of advanced Melanoma sufferers.
Coleman and Pharmac changed their story once there was some public pressure.
On 3/7/2016 3:16 PM, victor wrote:
Do carry on making up reasons, but its mainly old white people that
suffer from Melanoma so National will change tack.
Wrong.
So wrong you must be a Liebor supporter to believe that.
Skin cancers affect all races and colours
Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:So did the medical insurers fight for prescription use of mariuana to
On Sun, 06 Mar 2016 18:52:02 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot netI thought you would know but very briefly there is a limited health service >provided free in Australia, most people there take out health insurance. We >have an unlimited health service (to all intents and purposes) so the dynamics >are obviously different.
dot nz> wrote:
Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 06 Mar 2016 18:29:25 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net >>>>dot nz> wrote:No please read what I said, economy size and culture (their very different >>>health system) makes a dramatic and obvious difference.
Liberty <liberty48@live.com> wrote:
On Sun, 06 Mar 2016 23:28:32 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:Indeed and Rich never makes allowances for different econmy sizes or >>>>>culture
On Sun, 6 Mar 2016 18:22:43 +1300, victor <user1@example.net> wrote: >>>>>>>You are off topic again Rich.
On 6/03/2016 5:10 p.m., Liberty wrote:
On Sun, 6 Mar 2016 16:06:24 +1300, george152 <gblack@hnpl.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>
On 3/6/2016 2:52 PM, Liberty wrote:
rich has been given his orders..
Still no word from Rich on this dubious meeting.
Rich being a bit of a paranoid moralist when it comes to deals. So >>>>>>>>>>>much
so he has
posted dozens of posts regarding Collins trip to china. which as >>>>>>>>>>>expected all came to nothing.
Then the was the saudi deal. Rich was once again chasing wind mills.
Now we know labour who are very short of cash due to lack of >>>>>>>>>>>support
and no members. have been having clandestine talks with very rich >>>>>>>>>>>drug
companies. Now nothing really wrong with that.
But when Labour out of the blue. advocates spending large amounts >>>>>>>>>>>of
money on a particular drug.
We here the warning bells of dirty deal.
Meanwhile not a word out of Rich8015> Why is that?
Maybe Guilty as sin. Labour are just laying low.
Ignore big Pharm subsidising Liebor and keep claiming TPP is going to
make medicines more expensive.
Or: its all John Keys fault
It's the hypocrisy of Rich and his minions
Rich went mental over Collins having a meal in china.
why would a international drug company have a dinner with a >>>>>>>>> dysfunctional opposition party?
Pretty normal for Medicines NZ to meet with politicians.
What is getting the Nat-bots upset is that Labour were listening to >>>>>>>all those invovled - they think business shold only listen to National >>>>>>>- and National are embarrassed at Australia making decisions on drugs >>>>>>>for melanoma and laws for medical marijuana while they stuff around. >>>>>>
We are not talking about Australia.
when comparing countries, why take note of something so important? >>>>>Tony
Are you saying that Australia's size makes it easier for them to
afford new melanoma drugs
So what difference does it make, Tony?
and to permit use of marijuana on prescription?
Tony
Tony
victor <user1@example.net> wrote:
On 7/03/2016 1:52 p.m., Tony wrote:I have no need to make up reasons, unlike you and Rich I do not lie.
Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
No please read what I said, economy size and culture (their very different >>> health system) makes a dramatic and obvious difference.
Are you saying that Australia's size makes it easier for them to
afford new melanoma drugs
and to permit use of marijuana on prescription?
Tony
Do carry on making up reasons, but its mainly old white people that
suffer from Melanoma so National will change tack.
Tony
Really? What trap is that? Do you have a cite?
What impropriety are you alleging occured? Have the media or other >>>political parties claimed any problems with the meeting? How does that >>>compare with the meeting Collins had with Oravida?
The word around the traps is Labour is financially tight.
Labour has a meeting with very rich drug company.Did they? Do you have a cite for that? Who was at the meeting? What
did they discuss? Have National had discussions with the same people?
A few weeks later Lefty TV have a cry of the week story on a wonder drug. >What drug is that, Liberty? What do the media have to say about it? Oris this all in your mind?
Labour then claim they would fund the wonder drug when they are in office LOLWhy does it look a bit seedy, Liberty?
Looks a bit seedy.
On Mon, 07 Mar 2016 01:51:46 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot netIt is merely the truth!
dot nz> wrote:
victor <user1@example.net> wrote:
On 7/03/2016 1:52 p.m., Tony wrote:I have no need to make up reasons, unlike you and Rich I do not lie.
Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
No please read what I said, economy size and culture (their very different >>>> health system) makes a dramatic and obvious difference.
Are you saying that Australia's size makes it easier for them to
afford new melanoma drugs
and to permit use of marijuana on prescription?
Tony
Do carry on making up reasons, but its mainly old white people that >>>suffer from Melanoma so National will change tack.
Tony
In this case a deliberate, unjustified, and certainly unsupported
assertion about others is a lie. Why be deliberately obnoxious, Tony?
On Mon, 07 Mar 2016 01:50:45 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
dot nz> wrote:
Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:So did the medical insurers fight for prescription use of mariuana to
On Sun, 06 Mar 2016 18:52:02 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot netI thought you would know but very briefly there is a limited health service >>provided free in Australia, most people there take out health insurance. We >>have an unlimited health service (to all intents and purposes) so the >>dynamics
dot nz> wrote:
Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 06 Mar 2016 18:29:25 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net >>>>>dot nz> wrote:No please read what I said, economy size and culture (their very different >>>>health system) makes a dramatic and obvious difference.
Liberty <liberty48@live.com> wrote:
On Sun, 06 Mar 2016 23:28:32 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>>>>>wrote:Indeed and Rich never makes allowances for different econmy sizes or >>>>>>culture
On Sun, 6 Mar 2016 18:22:43 +1300, victor <user1@example.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>You are off topic again Rich.
On 6/03/2016 5:10 p.m., Liberty wrote:
On Sun, 6 Mar 2016 16:06:24 +1300, george152 <gblack@hnpl.net> wrote:
On 3/6/2016 2:52 PM, Liberty wrote:
rich has been given his orders..
Still no word from Rich on this dubious meeting.
Rich being a bit of a paranoid moralist when it comes to deals. >>>>>>>>>>>>So
much
so he has
posted dozens of posts regarding Collins trip to china. which as >>>>>>>>>>>>expected all came to nothing.
Then the was the saudi deal. Rich was once again chasing wind >>>>>>>>>>>>mills.
Now we know labour who are very short of cash due to lack of >>>>>>>>>>>>support
and no members. have been having clandestine talks with very rich >>>>>>>>>>>>drug
companies. Now nothing really wrong with that.
But when Labour out of the blue. advocates spending large amounts >>>>>>>>>>>>
of
money on a particular drug.
We here the warning bells of dirty deal.
Meanwhile not a word out of Rich8015> Why is that?
Maybe Guilty as sin. Labour are just laying low.
Ignore big Pharm subsidising Liebor and keep claiming TPP is going >>>>>>>>>>>to
make medicines more expensive.
Or: its all John Keys fault
It's the hypocrisy of Rich and his minions
Rich went mental over Collins having a meal in china.
why would a international drug company have a dinner with a >>>>>>>>>> dysfunctional opposition party?
Pretty normal for Medicines NZ to meet with politicians.
What is getting the Nat-bots upset is that Labour were listening to >>>>>>>>all those invovled - they think business shold only listen to National >>>>>>>>- and National are embarrassed at Australia making decisions on drugs >>>>>>>>for melanoma and laws for medical marijuana while they stuff around. >>>>>>>
We are not talking about Australia.
when comparing countries, why take note of something so important? >>>>>>Tony
Are you saying that Australia's size makes it easier for them to >>>>>afford new melanoma drugs
So what difference does it make, Tony?
are obviously different.
and to permit use of marijuana on prescription?
be legalised? Or for the use of expensive melanoma treatments?
I don't know or I wouldn't be asking.
Nor do I know but that wasn't my point!!!
Tony
Tony
On Mon, 07 Mar 2016 10:03:26 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
Really? What trap is that? Do you have a cite?
What impropriety are you alleging occured? Have the media or other >>>>political parties claimed any problems with the meeting? How does that >>>>compare with the meeting Collins had with Oravida?
The word around the traps is Labour is financially tight.
http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2016/02/leaked-labour-rotoruas-finances-theyre-broke/
This one is a juicy read >http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2014/05/labours-broke-got-policy-resorts-smears-nasty-party-tactics/
Labour has a meeting with very rich drug company.Did they? Do you have a cite for that? Who was at the meeting? What
did they discuss? Have National had discussions with the same people?
No answer here either, "Liberty"?
A few weeks later Lefty TV have a cry of the week story on a wonder drug. >>What drug is that, Liberty? What do the media have to say about it? Oris this all in your mind?
Labour then claim they would fund the wonder drug when they are in office LOLWhy does it look a bit seedy, Liberty?
Looks a bit seedy.
On Sun, 6 Mar 2016 19:34:11 -0800 (PST), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>wrote:
wrote:
On Monday, 7 March 2016 16:00:04 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
On Sun, 6 Mar 2016 18:28:08 -0800 (PST), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Monday, 7 March 2016 14:56:57 UTC+13, victor wrote:
On 6/03/2016 8:58 p.m., Liberty wrote:
On Sun, 6 Mar 2016 18:22:43 +1300, victor <user1@example.net> wrote: >> >> >
On 6/03/2016 5:10 p.m., Liberty wrote:
On Sun, 6 Mar 2016 16:06:24 +1300, george152 <gblack@hnpl.net>
So much so he has
On 3/6/2016 2:52 PM, Liberty wrote:
Still no word from Rich on this dubious meeting.
Rich being a bit of a paranoid moralist when it comes to deals.
expected all came to nothing.posted dozens of posts regarding Collins trip to china. which as
mills.Then the was the saudi deal. Rich was once again chasing wind
support and no members. have been having clandestine talks with very rich drugNow we know labour who are very short of cash due to lack of
amounts of money on a particular drug.companies. Now nothing really wrong with that.
But when Labour out of the blue. advocates spending large
toWe here the warning bells of dirty deal.rich has been given his orders..
Meanwhile not a word out of Rich8015> Why is that?
Maybe Guilty as sin. Labour are just laying low.
Ignore big Pharm subsidising Liebor and keep claiming TPP is going
of the drugs?make medicines more expensive.
Or: its all John Keys fault
It's the hypocrisy of Rich and his minions
Rich went mental over Collins having a meal in china.
why would a international drug company have a dinner with a
dysfunctional opposition party?
Pretty normal for Medicines NZ to meet with politicians.
Explain the difference between A milk importer and a drug company ? >> >> > While you are at it. Explain why Labour became a big supporter of one
citation and why.
A milk importer imports milk. Collins tried using ministerial influence >> >> to get advantages over other NZ exporters for her husbands firm.
Making shit up again, victor?
Please cite something authoritative that
1) Collins was trying to use her influence
2) Her husband was an owner or employee of Oravida
Just Google Collins Oravida, and there are a lot of articles:
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/10013696/Judith-Collins-regrets-Oravida-interactions
http://www.newshub.co.nz/politics/timeline-judith-collins-and-oravida-2014050512#axzz42BMOqQy2
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11249833
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judith_Collins
etc
Geez, even my school age children know better than to use Wikipedia in a
Yep, any Wiki page about a politician will have been crawled all over
by staff, who will seek to minimise problems and emphasi8se
achievements. This one is no different, but even Collins can't get the
Wiki page to ignore large blots on her copybook . . .
Perhaps you can demonstrate the correct method by cites of improper
meetings that Labour has been asserted to have had . . .
pressure.
Medicines NZ is an industry organization that is a stakeholder in
dealings with Pharmac. They are interested in party policy on Pharmac. >> >>
Labour representing the interests of advanced Melanoma sufferers.
Coleman and Pharmac changed their story once there was some public
On Mon, 7 Mar 2016 16:38:52 +1300, george152 <gblack@hnpl.net> wrote:
On 3/7/2016 3:16 PM, victor wrote:
Do carry on making up reasons, but its mainly old white people that
suffer from Melanoma so National will change tack.
Wrong.
So wrong you must be a Liebor supporter to believe that.
Skin cancers affect all races and colours
Indeed, but melanomas are particularly prevalent in people that have
had long exposue to excessive amounts of sunlight . . .
Was there a point to your childish use of the perjorative "Liebor"?
On Tue, 08 Mar 2016 08:00:25 +1300, Liberty <liberty48@live.com>A bit like the Standard. But that doesn't seem to worry you.
wrote:
On Mon, 07 Mar 2016 10:03:26 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote: >>
This one is a juicy read >>http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2014/05/labours-broke-got-policy-resorts-smears-nasty-party-tactics/Really? What trap is that? Do you have a cite?
What impropriety are you alleging occured? Have the media or other >>>>>political parties claimed any problems with the meeting? How does that >>>>>compare with the meeting Collins had with Oravida?
The word around the traps is Labour is financially tight.
http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2016/02/leaked-labour-rotoruas-finances-theyre-broke/
Indeed you were trapped by your own ignorance - you do realise that
Slater is totally unreliable, don't you?
from these bits of wild speculation on both his and your part. Another
one for your information: >http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/296881/slater-fined-for-contempt-of-court
On 3/8/2016 8:35 AM, JohnO wrote:
On Monday, 7 March 2016 22:09:32 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:Balls in their court. They stop lying I stop calling them Liebor.
On Mon, 7 Mar 2016 16:38:52 +1300, george152 <gblack@hnpl.net> wrote:
On 3/7/2016 3:16 PM, victor wrote:
Do carry on making up reasons, but its mainly old white people that
suffer from Melanoma so National will change tack.
Wrong.
So wrong you must be a Liebor supporter to believe that.
Skin cancers affect all races and colours
Indeed, but melanomas are particularly prevalent in people that have
had long exposue to excessive amounts of sunlight . . .
Was there a point to your childish use of the perjorative "Liebor"?
I would have thought the point was obvious, even to those at the
thickest end of the left wing spectrum.
Their cultist followers stop lying I'd call it an improvement...
victor <user1@example.net> wrote:
On 7/03/2016 1:52 p.m., Tony wrote:I have no need to make up reasons, unlike you and Rich I do not lie.
Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
No please read what I said, economy size and culture (their very different >>> health system) makes a dramatic and obvious difference.
Are you saying that Australia's size makes it easier for them to
afford new melanoma drugs
and to permit use of marijuana on prescription?
Tony
Do carry on making up reasons, but its mainly old white people that
suffer from Melanoma so National will change tack.
Tony
On Monday, 7 March 2016 22:09:32 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:of the left wing spectrum.
On Mon, 7 Mar 2016 16:38:52 +1300, george152 <gblack@hnpl.net> wrote:
On 3/7/2016 3:16 PM, victor wrote:
Do carry on making up reasons, but its mainly old white people that
suffer from Melanoma so National will change tack.
Wrong.
So wrong you must be a Liebor supporter to believe that.
Skin cancers affect all races and colours
Indeed, but melanomas are particularly prevalent in people that have
had long exposue to excessive amounts of sunlight . . .
Was there a point to your childish use of the perjorative "Liebor"?
I would have thought the point was obvious, even to those at the thickest end
On Monday, 7 March 2016 22:09:32 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:of the left wing spectrum.
On Mon, 7 Mar 2016 16:38:52 +1300, george152 <gblack@hnpl.net> wrote:
On 3/7/2016 3:16 PM, victor wrote:
Do carry on making up reasons, but its mainly old white people that
suffer from Melanoma so National will change tack.
Wrong.
So wrong you must be a Liebor supporter to believe that.
Skin cancers affect all races and colours
Indeed, but melanomas are particularly prevalent in people that have
had long exposue to excessive amounts of sunlight . . .
Was there a point to your childish use of the perjorative "Liebor"?
I would have thought the point was obvious, even to those at the thickest end
On Tue, 08 Mar 2016 08:50:23 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 08 Mar 2016 08:00:25 +1300, Liberty <liberty48@live.com>A bit like the Standard. But that doesn't seem to worry you.
wrote:
On Mon, 07 Mar 2016 10:03:26 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>
This one is a juicy read >>>http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2014/05/labours-broke-got-policy-resorts-smears-nasty-party-tactics/Really? What trap is that? Do you have a cite?
What impropriety are you alleging occured? Have the media or other >>>>>>political parties claimed any problems with the meeting? How does that >>>>>>compare with the meeting Collins had with Oravida?
The word around the traps is Labour is financially tight.
http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2016/02/leaked-labour-rotoruas-finances-theyre-broke/
Indeed you were trapped by your own ignorance - you do realise that
Slater is totally unreliable, don't you?
That much is evident even
from these bits of wild speculation on both his and your part. Another
one for your information: >>http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/296881/slater-fined-for-contempt-of-court
What has that court case got to do with labour reportedly being a bit tight? >Nothing at all.
Once again you go off topic in a feeble attempt to stop a discussion
That is embarrassing to the labour party.
If labour is in a very financially healthy state why don't you just produce >a cite to back it up. And squash the rumors.
Labour has a meeting with very rich drug company.Did they? Do you have a cite for that? Who was at the meeting? What
did they discuss? Have National had discussions with the same people?
No answer here either, "Liberty"?
A few weeks later Lefty TV have a cry of the week story on a wonder drug. >>What drug is that, Liberty? What do the media have to say about it? Oris this all in your mind?
Labour then claim they would fund the wonder drug when they are in office LOLWhy does it look a bit seedy, Liberty?
Looks a bit seedy.
On 7/03/2016 8:51 p.m., Tony wrote:Yes I know what it is but you have not made a point.
victor <user1@example.net> wrote:
On 7/03/2016 1:52 p.m., Tony wrote:I have no need to make up reasons, unlike you and Rich I do not lie.
Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
No please read what I said, economy size and culture (their very different >>>> health system) makes a dramatic and obvious difference.
Are you saying that Australia's size makes it easier for them to
afford new melanoma drugs
and to permit use of marijuana on prescription?
Tony
Do carry on making up reasons, but its mainly old white people that
suffer from Melanoma so National will change tack.
Tony
The Epimenides Paradox
On Tue, 08 Mar 2016 09:22:26 +1300, Liberty <liberty48@live.com>Just a question! Why do you include his chosen name in quotes? It wouldn't be intended to be patronising or quite simply sarcasm (read arrogance) would it Rich?
wrote:
On Tue, 08 Mar 2016 08:50:23 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote: >>Back on topic then:
On Tue, 08 Mar 2016 08:00:25 +1300, Liberty <liberty48@live.com>A bit like the Standard. But that doesn't seem to worry you.
wrote:
On Mon, 07 Mar 2016 10:03:26 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>
This one is a juicy read >>>>http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2014/05/labours-broke-got-policy-resorts-smears-nasty-party-tactics/Really? What trap is that? Do you have a cite?
What impropriety are you alleging occured? Have the media or other >>>>>>>political parties claimed any problems with the meeting? How does that >>>>>>>compare with the meeting Collins had with Oravida?
The word around the traps is Labour is financially tight.
http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2016/02/leaked-labour-rotoruas-finances-theyre-broke/
Indeed you were trapped by your own ignorance - you do realise that >>>Slater is totally unreliable, don't you?
That much is evident even
from these bits of wild speculation on both his and your part. Another >>>one for your information: >>>http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/296881/slater-fined-for-contempt-of-court
What has that court case got to do with labour reportedly being a bit tight? >>Nothing at all.
Once again you go off topic in a feeble attempt to stop a discussion
That is embarrassing to the labour party.
If labour is in a very financially healthy state why don't you just produce >>a cite to back it up. And squash the rumors.
Labour has a meeting with very rich drug company.Did they? Do you have a cite for that? Who was at the meeting? What
did they discuss? Have National had discussions with the same people?
So where are the cites for this bit of your wild speculation,
"Liberty"? (just a hint - your nym should not mean free from the
truth)
No answer here either, "Liberty"?
A few weeks later Lefty TV have a cry of the week story on a wonder drug. >>>What drug is that, Liberty? What do the media have to say about it? Oris this all in your mind?
Labour then claim they would fund the wonder drug when they are in office >>>>LOLWhy does it look a bit seedy, Liberty?
Looks a bit seedy.
Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:Its just an acknowledgement that the word is a nym, rather than a name
On Tue, 08 Mar 2016 09:22:26 +1300, Liberty <liberty48@live.com>Just a question! Why do you include his chosen name in quotes? It wouldn't be >intended to be patronising or quite simply sarcasm (read arrogance) would it >Rich?
wrote:
On Tue, 08 Mar 2016 08:50:23 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>Back on topic then:
On Tue, 08 Mar 2016 08:00:25 +1300, Liberty <liberty48@live.com>A bit like the Standard. But that doesn't seem to worry you.
wrote:
On Mon, 07 Mar 2016 10:03:26 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
This one is a juicy read >>>>>http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2014/05/labours-broke-got-policy-resorts-smears-nasty-party-tactics/Really? What trap is that? Do you have a cite?
What impropriety are you alleging occured? Have the media or other >>>>>>>>political parties claimed any problems with the meeting? How does that >>>>>>>>compare with the meeting Collins had with Oravida?
The word around the traps is Labour is financially tight.
http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2016/02/leaked-labour-rotoruas-finances-theyre-broke/
Indeed you were trapped by your own ignorance - you do realise that >>>>Slater is totally unreliable, don't you?
That much is evident even
from these bits of wild speculation on both his and your part. Another >>>>one for your information: >>>>http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/296881/slater-fined-for-contempt-of-court
What has that court case got to do with labour reportedly being a bit tight?
Nothing at all.
Once again you go off topic in a feeble attempt to stop a discussion
That is embarrassing to the labour party.
If labour is in a very financially healthy state why don't you just produce
a cite to back it up. And squash the rumors.
Labour has a meeting with very rich drug company.Did they? Do you have a cite for that? Who was at the meeting? What
did they discuss? Have National had discussions with the same people?
So where are the cites for this bit of your wild speculation,
"Liberty"? (just a hint - your nym should not mean free from the
truth)
No answer here either, "Liberty"?
A few weeks later Lefty TV have a cry of the week story on a wonder drug.What drug is that, Liberty? What do the media have to say about it? Or >>>>is this all in your mind?
Labour then claim they would fund the wonder drug when they are in office >>>>>LOLWhy does it look a bit seedy, Liberty?
Looks a bit seedy.
Tony
On Mon, 07 Mar 2016 22:53:48 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot netIf you insist, but I think that is untrue. It is out of character for you to do that. Rather more likely (in fact I am sure) that it is part of your sneering sarcasm.
dot nz> wrote:
Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:Its just an acknowledgement that the word is a nym, rather than a name
On Tue, 08 Mar 2016 09:22:26 +1300, Liberty <liberty48@live.com>Just a question! Why do you include his chosen name in quotes? It wouldn't be >>intended to be patronising or quite simply sarcasm (read arrogance) would it >>Rich?
wrote:
On Tue, 08 Mar 2016 08:50:23 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>Back on topic then:
On Tue, 08 Mar 2016 08:00:25 +1300, Liberty <liberty48@live.com> >>>>>wrote:A bit like the Standard. But that doesn't seem to worry you.
On Mon, 07 Mar 2016 10:03:26 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>>>>wrote:
This one is a juicy read >>>>>>http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2014/05/labours-broke-got-policy-resorts-smears-nasty-party-tactics/
What impropriety are you alleging occured? Have the media or other >>>>>>>>>political parties claimed any problems with the meeting? How does that >>>>>>>>>compare with the meeting Collins had with Oravida?
The word around the traps is Labour is financially tight. >>>>>>>Really? What trap is that? Do you have a cite?
http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2016/02/leaked-labour-rotoruas-finances-theyre-broke/
Indeed you were trapped by your own ignorance - you do realise that >>>>>Slater is totally unreliable, don't you?
That much is evident even
from these bits of wild speculation on both his and your part. Another >>>>>one for your information: >>>>>http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/296881/slater-fined-for-contempt-of-court
What has that court case got to do with labour reportedly being a bit >>>>tight?
Nothing at all.
Once again you go off topic in a feeble attempt to stop a discussion >>>>That is embarrassing to the labour party.
If labour is in a very financially healthy state why don't you just >>>>produce
a cite to back it up. And squash the rumors.
Labour has a meeting with very rich drug company.Did they? Do you have a cite for that? Who was at the meeting? What >>>>>did they discuss? Have National had discussions with the same people?
So where are the cites for this bit of your wild speculation,
"Liberty"? (just a hint - your nym should not mean free from the
truth)
No answer here either, "Liberty"?
A few weeks later Lefty TV have a cry of the week story on a wonder >>>>>>drug.What drug is that, Liberty? What do the media have to say about it? Or >>>>>is this all in your mind?
Labour then claim they would fund the wonder drug when they are in >>>>>>officeWhy does it look a bit seedy, Liberty?
LOL
Looks a bit seedy.
Tony
or a word relevant to the subject of the thread.
Do you know who was at the meeting Liberty is concerned about, or have >anything positivve to add to our understanding regarding the allegedI have not addressed that question here and do not intend to.
"cosy meeting" that Liberty finds so sinister?
Still no word from Rich on this dubious meeting.
Rich being a bit of a paranoid moralist when it comes to deals. So much
so he has
posted dozens of posts regarding Collins trip to china. which as expected
all came to nothing.
Then the was the saudi deal. Rich was once again chasing wind mills.
Now we know labour who are very short of cash due to lack of support and
no members. have been having clandestine talks with very rich drug companies. Now nothing really wrong with that.
But when Labour out of the blue. advocates spending large amounts of
money on a particular drug.
We here the warning bells of dirty deal.
Meanwhile not a word out of Rich8015> Why is that?
Maybe Guilty as sin. Labour are just laying low.
On 3/7/2016 3:16 PM, victor wrote:
Do carry on making up reasons, but its mainly old white people that
suffer from Melanoma so National will change tack.
Wrong.
So wrong you must be a Liebor supporter to believe that.
Skin cancers affect all races and colours
On 8/03/2016 8:35 a.m., JohnO wrote:
On Monday, 7 March 2016 22:09:32 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
On Mon, 7 Mar 2016 16:38:52 +1300, george152 <gblack@hnpl.net> wrote:
On 3/7/2016 3:16 PM, victor wrote:
Do carry on making up reasons, but its mainly old white people that
suffer from Melanoma so National will change tack.
Wrong.
So wrong you must be a Liebor supporter to believe that.
Skin cancers affect all races and colours
Indeed, but melanomas are particularly prevalent in people that have
had long exposue to excessive amounts of sunlight . . .
Was there a point to your childish use of the perjorative "Liebor"?
I would have thought the point was obvious, even to those at the thickest
end of the left wing spectrum.
The RW thickos here never grow out of it.
On Mon, 07 Mar 2016 01:51:46 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
dot nz> wrote:
victor <user1@example.net> wrote:
On 7/03/2016 1:52 p.m., Tony wrote:I have no need to make up reasons, unlike you and Rich I do not lie.
Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
No please read what I said, economy size and culture (their very
Are you saying that Australia's size makes it easier for them to
afford new melanoma drugs
different
health system) makes a dramatic and obvious difference.
and to permit use of marijuana on prescription?
Tony
Do carry on making up reasons, but its mainly old white people that >>>suffer from Melanoma so National will change tack.
Tony
In this case a deliberate, unjustified, and certainly unsupported
assertion about others is a lie. Why be deliberately obnoxious, Tony?
On Mon, 7 Mar 2016 07:57:50 +1300, george152 <gblack@hnpl.net> wrote:
On 3/6/2016 6:22 PM, victor wrote:Which of the companies that were at the meeting make drugs that are
On 6/03/2016 5:10 p.m., Liberty wrote:
On Sun, 6 Mar 2016 16:06:24 +1300, george152 <gblack@hnpl.net> wrote:
On 3/6/2016 2:52 PM, Liberty wrote:
rich has been given his orders..
Still no word from Rich on this dubious meeting.
Rich being a bit of a paranoid moralist when it comes to deals. So >>>>>> much so he has
posted dozens of posts regarding Collins trip to china. which as
expected all came to nothing.
Then the was the saudi deal. Rich was once again chasing wind mills. >>>>>> Now we know labour who are very short of cash due to lack of
support and no members. have been having clandestine talks with very >>>>>> rich drug
companies. Now nothing really wrong with that.
But when Labour out of the blue. advocates spending large amounts >>>>>> of money on a particular drug.
We here the warning bells of dirty deal.
Meanwhile not a word out of Rich8015> Why is that?
Maybe Guilty as sin. Labour are just laying low.
Ignore big Pharm subsidising Liebor and keep claiming TPP is going to >>>>> make medicines more expensive.
Or: its all John Keys fault
It's the hypocrisy of Rich and his minions
Rich went mental over Collins having a meal in china.
why would a international drug company have a dinner with a
dysfunctional opposition party?
Pretty normal for Medicines NZ to meet with politicians.
But its not 'Medicines NZ' it's the firm who makes the latest 'wonder >>drug'....
purchased in New Zealand, George, and which one makes the drug you
refer to? Just who was it that Little had a meeting with?
Is there in your view something inherently wrong with an Opposition
leader meeting with businesses that trade in New Zealand?
I think there should be the same effort examining this as was expendedNo problem with that. You seem to be on top of this so I'm sure the
on Judith Collins and her 'cuppa' with her husband
answers to the following will be easy - alternatively you may want to
give a media cite giving some of the answers.
Which of the companies does Andrew Little or his family have
investments in or has a family member who is a director of the
company? How does that compare with the meeting Collins had with
Oravida?
Did the companies get publicity and possible trading benefit in their
market from having a meeting witht he Leader of the Opposition? How
does that compare with the meeting Collins had with Oravida?
How much taxpayer money was involved in transporting Andrew Little to
the meeting? How does that compare with the meeting Collins had with Oravida?
What impropriety are you alleging occured? Have the media or other
political parties claimed any problems with the meeting? How does that compare with the meeting Collins had with Oravida?
On Mon, 7 Mar 2016 09:05:20 +1300, Fred <dryrot@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 7/03/2016 9:01 a.m., Rich80105 wrote:
On Mon, 7 Mar 2016 07:57:50 +1300, george152 <gblack@hnpl.net> wrote:
On 3/6/2016 6:22 PM, victor wrote:Which of the companies that were at the meeting make drugs that are
On 6/03/2016 5:10 p.m., Liberty wrote:
On Sun, 6 Mar 2016 16:06:24 +1300, george152 <gblack@hnpl.net> wrote: >>>>>>
On 3/6/2016 2:52 PM, Liberty wrote:
rich has been given his orders..
Still no word from Rich on this dubious meeting.
Rich being a bit of a paranoid moralist when it comes to deals. So >>>>>>>> much so he has
posted dozens of posts regarding Collins trip to china. which as >>>>>>>> expected all came to nothing.
Then the was the saudi deal. Rich was once again chasing wind
mills.
Now we know labour who are very short of cash due to lack of
support and no members. have been having clandestine talks with >>>>>>>> very
rich drug
companies. Now nothing really wrong with that.
But when Labour out of the blue. advocates spending large amounts >>>>>>>> of money on a particular drug.
We here the warning bells of dirty deal.
Meanwhile not a word out of Rich8015> Why is that?
Maybe Guilty as sin. Labour are just laying low.
Ignore big Pharm subsidising Liebor and keep claiming TPP is going >>>>>>> to
make medicines more expensive.
Or: its all John Keys fault
It's the hypocrisy of Rich and his minions
Rich went mental over Collins having a meal in china.
why would a international drug company have a dinner with a
dysfunctional opposition party?
Pretty normal for Medicines NZ to meet with politicians.
But its not 'Medicines NZ' it's the firm who makes the latest 'wonder
drug'....
purchased in New Zealand, George, and which one makes the drug you
refer to? Just who was it that Little had a meeting with?
Is there in your view something inherently wrong with an Opposition
leader meeting with businesses that trade in New Zealand?
I think there should be the same effort examining this as was expended >>>> on Judith Collins and her 'cuppa' with her husbandNo problem with that. You seem to be on top of this so I'm sure the
answers to the following will be easy - alternatively you may want to
give a media cite giving some of the answers.
Which of the companies does Andrew Little or his family have
investments in or has a family member who is a director of the
company? How does that compare with the meeting Collins had with
Oravida?
Did the companies get publicity and possible trading benefit in their
market from having a meeting witht he Leader of the Opposition? How
does that compare with the meeting Collins had with Oravida?
How much taxpayer money was involved in transporting Andrew Little to
the meeting? How does that compare with the meeting Collins had with
Oravida?
What impropriety are you alleging occured? Have the media or other
political parties claimed any problems with the meeting? How does that
compare with the meeting Collins had with Oravida?
There goes another night's sleep for you, worrying about all those >>questions. There's bound to be some you haven't even thought of yet.
Should keep you up all night tonight as well.
I am confident that george is capable of easily providing the
information - he's been quite strong in the past about being able to
support assertions with cites and facts - do you disagree with that,
Fred?
On Mon, 07 Mar 2016 09:53:19 +1300, Liberty <liberty48@live.com>
wrote:
On Mon, 07 Mar 2016 09:01:31 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com>I didnt réalise it was her husband's place of work - are you sure
wrote:
On Mon, 7 Mar 2016 07:57:50 +1300, george152 <gblack@hnpl.net> wrote:
On 3/6/2016 6:22 PM, victor wrote:Which of the companies that were at the meeting make drugs that are >>>purchased in New Zealand, George, and which one makes the drug you
On 6/03/2016 5:10 p.m., Liberty wrote:
On Sun, 6 Mar 2016 16:06:24 +1300, george152 <gblack@hnpl.net> wrote: >>>>>>
On 3/6/2016 2:52 PM, Liberty wrote:
rich has been given his orders..
Still no word from Rich on this dubious meeting.
Rich being a bit of a paranoid moralist when it comes to deals. So >>>>>>>> much so he has
posted dozens of posts regarding Collins trip to china. which as >>>>>>>> expected all came to nothing.
Then the was the saudi deal. Rich was once again chasing wind
mills.
Now we know labour who are very short of cash due to lack of
support and no members. have been having clandestine talks with >>>>>>>> very
rich drug
companies. Now nothing really wrong with that.
But when Labour out of the blue. advocates spending large amounts >>>>>>>> of money on a particular drug.
We here the warning bells of dirty deal.
Meanwhile not a word out of Rich8015> Why is that?
Maybe Guilty as sin. Labour are just laying low.
Ignore big Pharm subsidising Liebor and keep claiming TPP is going >>>>>>> to
make medicines more expensive.
Or: its all John Keys fault
It's the hypocrisy of Rich and his minions
Rich went mental over Collins having a meal in china.
why would a international drug company have a dinner with a
dysfunctional opposition party?
Pretty normal for Medicines NZ to meet with politicians.
But its not 'Medicines NZ' it's the firm who makes the latest 'wonder >>>>drug'....
refer to? Just who was it that Little had a meeting with?
Is there in your view something inherently wrong with an Opposition >>>leader meeting with businesses that trade in New Zealand?
I think there should be the same effort examining this as was expended >>>>on Judith Collins and her 'cuppa' with her husbandNo problem with that. You seem to be on top of this so I'm sure the >>>answers to the following will be easy - alternatively you may want to >>>give a media cite giving some of the answers.
Which of the companies does Andrew Little or his family have
investments in or has a family member who is a director of the
company? How does that compare with the meeting Collins had with
Oravida?
What is Collins husband having a few shares in the company got to do
with it.
It is quite normal for a wife's to call into their husbands work for a >>cup of tea.
about that?
George seemed to think there was a parallel - I'm sure he will provide
some cites describing what happened.
Really? What trap is that? Do you have a cite?
Did the companies get publicity and possible trading benefit in their >>>market from having a meeting witht he Leader of the Opposition? How
does that compare with the meeting Collins had with Oravida?
How much taxpayer money was involved in transporting Andrew Little to
the meeting? How does that compare with the meeting Collins had with >>>Oravida?
What impropriety are you alleging occured? Have the media or other >>>political parties claimed any problems with the meeting? How does that >>>compare with the meeting Collins had with Oravida?
The word around the traps is Labour is financially tight.
Labour has a meeting with very rich drug company.Did they? Do you have a cite for that? Who was at the meeting? What
did they discuss? Have National had discussions with the same people?
A few weeks later Lefty TV have a cry of the week story on a wonderWhat drug is that, Liberty? What do the media have to say about it? Or
drug.
is this all in your mind?
Labour then claim they would fund the wonder drug when they are in office >>LOLWhy does it look a bit seedy, Liberty?
Looks a bit seedy.
On Tue, 08 Mar 2016 08:00:25 +1300, Liberty <liberty48@live.com>
wrote:
On Mon, 07 Mar 2016 10:03:26 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com>
wrote:
This one is a juicy read >>http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2014/05/labours-broke-got-policy-resorts-smears-nasty-party-tactics/Really? What trap is that? Do you have a cite?
What impropriety are you alleging occured? Have the media or other >>>>>political parties claimed any problems with the meeting? How does that >>>>>compare with the meeting Collins had with Oravida?
The word around the traps is Labour is financially tight.
http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2016/02/leaked-labour-rotoruas-finances-theyre-broke/
Indeed you were trapped by your own ignorance - you do realise that
Slater is totally unreliable, don't you? That much is evident even
from these bits of wild speculation on both his and your part. Another
one for your information: http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/296881/slater-fined-for-contempt-of-court
Labour has a meeting with very rich drug company.Did they? Do you have a cite for that? Who was at the meeting? What
did they discuss? Have National had discussions with the same people?
So where are the cites for this bit of your wild speculation,
"Liberty"? (just a hint - your nym should not mean free from the
truth)
No answer here either, "Liberty"?
A few weeks later Lefty TV have a cry of the week story on a wonder >>>>drug.What drug is that, Liberty? What do the media have to say about it? Or
is this all in your mind?
Labour then claim they would fund the wonder drug when they are in >>>>office LOLWhy does it look a bit seedy, Liberty?
Looks a bit seedy.
On Mon, 07 Mar 2016 22:53:48 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
dot nz> wrote:
Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:Its just an acknowledgement that the word is a nym, rather than a name
On Tue, 08 Mar 2016 09:22:26 +1300, Liberty <liberty48@live.com>Just a question! Why do you include his chosen name in quotes? It wouldn't >>be
wrote:
On Tue, 08 Mar 2016 08:50:23 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>>wrote:Back on topic then:
On Tue, 08 Mar 2016 08:00:25 +1300, Liberty <liberty48@live.com> >>>>>wrote:A bit like the Standard. But that doesn't seem to worry you.
On Mon, 07 Mar 2016 10:03:26 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>>>>wrote:
This one is a juicy read >>>>>>http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2014/05/labours-broke-got-policy-resorts-smears-nasty-party-tactics/
What impropriety are you alleging occured? Have the media or other >>>>>>>>>political parties claimed any problems with the meeting? How does >>>>>>>>>that
compare with the meeting Collins had with Oravida?
The word around the traps is Labour is financially tight. >>>>>>>Really? What trap is that? Do you have a cite?
http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2016/02/leaked-labour-rotoruas-finances-theyre-broke/
Indeed you were trapped by your own ignorance - you do realise that >>>>>Slater is totally unreliable, don't you?
That much is evident even
from these bits of wild speculation on both his and your part. Another >>>>>one for your information: >>>>>http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/296881/slater-fined-for-contempt-of-court
What has that court case got to do with labour reportedly being a bit >>>>tight?
Nothing at all.
Once again you go off topic in a feeble attempt to stop a discussion >>>>That is embarrassing to the labour party.
If labour is in a very financially healthy state why don't you just >>>>produce
a cite to back it up. And squash the rumors.
Labour has a meeting with very rich drug company.Did they? Do you have a cite for that? Who was at the meeting? What >>>>>did they discuss? Have National had discussions with the same people?
So where are the cites for this bit of your wild speculation,
"Liberty"? (just a hint - your nym should not mean free from the
truth)
No answer here either, "Liberty"?
A few weeks later Lefty TV have a cry of the week story on a wonder >>>>>>drug.What drug is that, Liberty? What do the media have to say about it? Or >>>>>is this all in your mind?
Labour then claim they would fund the wonder drug when they are in >>>>>>officeWhy does it look a bit seedy, Liberty?
LOL
Looks a bit seedy.
intended to be patronising or quite simply sarcasm (read arrogance) would >>it
Rich?
Tony
or a word relevant to the subject of the thread.
Do you know who was at the meeting Liberty is concerned about, or have anything positivve to add to our understanding regarding the alleged
"cosy meeting" that Liberty finds so sinister?
On 6/03/2016 5:10 p.m., Liberty wrote:
On Sun, 6 Mar 2016 16:06:24 +1300, george152 <gblack@hnpl.net> wrote:Well we know it wasn't so the drug co. wallahs could pick Little's brains.
On 3/6/2016 2:52 PM, Liberty wrote:
rich has been given his orders..
Still no word from Rich on this dubious meeting.
Rich being a bit of a paranoid moralist when it comes to deals. So
much so he has
posted dozens of posts regarding Collins trip to china. which as
expected all came to nothing.
Then the was the saudi deal. Rich was once again chasing wind mills.
Now we know labour who are very short of cash due to lack of support
and no members. have been having clandestine talks with very rich drug >>>> companies. Now nothing really wrong with that.
But when Labour out of the blue. advocates spending large amounts of >>>> money on a particular drug.
We here the warning bells of dirty deal.
Meanwhile not a word out of Rich8015> Why is that?
Maybe Guilty as sin. Labour are just laying low.
Ignore big Pharm subsidising Liebor and keep claiming TPP is going to
make medicines more expensive.
Or: its all John Keys fault
It's the hypocrisy of Rich and his minions
Rich went mental over Collins having a meal in china.
why would a international drug company have a dinner with a
dysfunctional opposition party?
On Sun, 6 Mar 2016 18:22:43 +1300, victor <user1@example.net> wrote:
On 6/03/2016 5:10 p.m., Liberty wrote:
On Sun, 6 Mar 2016 16:06:24 +1300, george152 <gblack@hnpl.net> wrote:
On 3/6/2016 2:52 PM, Liberty wrote:
rich has been given his orders..
Still no word from Rich on this dubious meeting.
Rich being a bit of a paranoid moralist when it comes to deals. So
much so he has
posted dozens of posts regarding Collins trip to china. which as
expected all came to nothing.
Then the was the saudi deal. Rich was once again chasing wind mills. >>>>> Now we know labour who are very short of cash due to lack of support >>>>> and no members. have been having clandestine talks with very rich
drug
companies. Now nothing really wrong with that.
But when Labour out of the blue. advocates spending large amounts of >>>>> money on a particular drug.
We here the warning bells of dirty deal.
Meanwhile not a word out of Rich8015> Why is that?
Maybe Guilty as sin. Labour are just laying low.
Ignore big Pharm subsidising Liebor and keep claiming TPP is going to
make medicines more expensive.
Or: its all John Keys fault
It's the hypocrisy of Rich and his minions
Rich went mental over Collins having a meal in china.
why would a international drug company have a dinner with a
dysfunctional opposition party?
Pretty normal for Medicines NZ to meet with politicians.
What is getting the Nat-bots upset is that Labour were listening to
all those invovled - they think business shold only listen to National
- and National are embarrassed at Australia making decisions on drugs
for melanoma and laws for medical marijuana while they stuff around.
On Sun, 6 Mar 2016 18:28:08 -0800 (PST), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Monday, 7 March 2016 14:56:57 UTC+13, victor wrote:
On 6/03/2016 8:58 p.m., Liberty wrote:
On Sun, 6 Mar 2016 18:22:43 +1300, victor <user1@example.net> wrote:
On 6/03/2016 5:10 p.m., Liberty wrote:
On Sun, 6 Mar 2016 16:06:24 +1300, george152 <gblack@hnpl.net>
wrote:
On 3/6/2016 2:52 PM, Liberty wrote:
rich has been given his orders..
Still no word from Rich on this dubious meeting.
Rich being a bit of a paranoid moralist when it comes to deals.
So much so he has
posted dozens of posts regarding Collins trip to china. which as
expected all came to nothing.
Then the was the saudi deal. Rich was once again chasing wind
mills.
Now we know labour who are very short of cash due to lack of
support and no members. have been having clandestine talks with
very rich drug
companies. Now nothing really wrong with that.
But when Labour out of the blue. advocates spending large
amounts of money on a particular drug.
We here the warning bells of dirty deal.
Meanwhile not a word out of Rich8015> Why is that?
Maybe Guilty as sin. Labour are just laying low.
Ignore big Pharm subsidising Liebor and keep claiming TPP is going
to
make medicines more expensive.
Or: its all John Keys fault
It's the hypocrisy of Rich and his minions
Rich went mental over Collins having a meal in china.
why would a international drug company have a dinner with a
dysfunctional opposition party?
Pretty normal for Medicines NZ to meet with politicians.
Explain the difference between A milk importer and a drug company ?
While you are at it. Explain why Labour became a big supporter of one
of the drugs?
A milk importer imports milk. Collins tried using ministerial influence
to get advantages over other NZ exporters for her husbands firm.
Making shit up again, victor?
Please cite something authoritative that
1) Collins was trying to use her influence
2) Her husband was an owner or employee of Oravida
Just Google Collins Oravida, and there are a lot of articles: http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/10013696/Judith-Collins-regrets-Oravida-interactions
http://www.newshub.co.nz/politics/timeline-judith-collins-and-oravida-2014050512#axzz42BMOqQy2
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11249833 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judith_Collins
etc
**********************************************************Medicines NZ is an industry organization that is a stakeholder in
dealings with Pharmac. They are interested in party policy on Pharmac.
Labour representing the interests of advanced Melanoma sufferers.
Coleman and Pharmac changed their story once there was some public
pressure.
On 7/03/2016 1:52 p.m., Tony wrote:
Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
No please read what I said, economy size and culture (their very
Are you saying that Australia's size makes it easier for them to
afford new melanoma drugs
different
health system) makes a dramatic and obvious difference.
and to permit use of marijuana on prescription?
Tony
Do carry on making up reasons, but its mainly old white people that suffer from Melanoma so National will change tack.
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