• Diluadid To Be Dispensed To The Scum Of The Earth By Vending Machines I

    From Greg Carr@1:229/2 to All on Saturday, December 23, 2017 02:35:54
    XPost: van.general, bc.general, bc.politics
    XPost: alt.drugs.hard, can.politics, ont.general
    From: gregpcarr@yahoo.ca

    While theft is a major concern of any opioid distribution system,
    anyone buying stolen vending machine pills would at least be getting
    safe drugs, says expert.
    Making a safe opioid available in vending machines may be the next
    harm reduction tool to fight the deadly overdose epidemic, says the
    executive medical director of the B.C. Centre for Disease Control.

    Dr. Mark Tyndall said he envisions a regulated system where drug users
    would be assessed, registered and issued a card to use in vending
    machines to obtain hydromorphone, a painkiller commonly marketed under
    the brand name Dilaudid.

    “I’m hoping that it’s kind of like supervised injection sites,” he
    said of the program that could begin as early as next March. “At first
    it sounded a bit off the wall and now it’s pretty well accepted.”

    Funding to expand access to hydromorphone would first be used to
    distribute pills through supportive housing units that also dispense
    methadone and suboxone as well as through a nurse at supervised
    injection sites before they are sold through vending machines, Tyndall
    said.

    “People could pick these drugs up at supervised injection sites but
    there’s no reason you couldn’t use vending machine technology to do
    that. So people would show up, have their card, click it in and get a
    couple of pills.”


    Hydromorphone pills dissolve well in water and Tyndall said he expects
    most people will grind them up and inject them.

    A small part of the funding will come from a three year, $1 million
    Health Canada grant that includes patients in Alberta, Tyndall said,
    adding the machines could also be placed in other areas where drug use
    is prevalent, as well as near health clinics in remote communities.

    “We don’t have really anything to offer people who are dying around
    the province in smaller communities, where sometimes they don’t even
    have a doctor who can prescribe methadone and certainly will never
    have a supervised injection site,” Tyndall said.

    “You’d have to ensure there’s some security system because we don’t
    want people kicking these things in and stealing all the pills, and we
    don’t want situations where people are taking out big quantities and
    selling them on the street.”

    Tyndall said while theft is a major concern of any opioid distribution
    system, anyone buying stolen hydromorphone pills would at least be
    getting safe drugs instead of those that could be laced with the
    powerful opioid fentanyl, which has been linked to hundreds of deaths
    across Canada.

    Safeguards would also include supplying two or three pills, up to
    three times a day, to prevent users from being targeted by criminals,
    Tyndall said.

    “We’ve done some focus groups and most people feel they’d be quite
    happy with two Dilaudids, eight milligrams, three times a day,” he
    said.

    However, people who are assessed as doing well could eventually obtain
    a two- or three-day supply of pills, much like take-home methadone,
    Tyndall added.

    High-dose injectable hydromorphone is currently provided to chronic
    substance users at a Vancouver clinic called Crosstown, the only such
    facility that also dispenses diacetylmorphine, or medical-grade heroin
    to patients who have repeatedly failed to kick an addiction to illicit
    drugs after multiple drug substitution programs.

    “This is not an addiction medicine response,” Tyndall said, adding new approaches need to have an impact on the overdose epidemic. “We need
    to make this is pubic health thing, much like vaccine programs.”

    The B.C. Coroners Service has reported that 1,208 people fatally
    overdosed in British Columbia between January and October this year.
    It said fentanyl was detected in 999 of the confirmed and suspected
    deaths so far in 2017, an increase of 136 per cent from the same
    period last year.

    Ontario’s Health Ministry said the province has about half a dozen
    remote locations where prescription drugs are available through
    dispensing machines. Patients consult in real time with an off-site
    pharmacist using two-way video monitor in the machine.

    Allan Malek, chief pharmacy officer of the Ontario Pharmacists
    Association, said Tyndall has floated an innovative idea during a
    national overdose crisis but it would have to be adequately monitored.

    “In terms of what’s happening in B.C. and other parts of the country,
    these are discussions that have to be had. People are dying. Something
    has to be done.”

    http://theprovince.com/news/local-news/b-c-overdose-crisis-opioid-in-vending-machines-idea-may-be-a-valuable-tool/wcm/8dc87c25-89f5-4923-bb8e-99da63ab49d6#comments
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    I used to know an injecter of Diluadid in Edmonton named Mike O' Brian
    he died at the hands of a Montreal Police Officer after shooting it
    out with him after a bank robbery in the late 80's. He also used to
    beat on ppl including women who were smaller than him (he was a
    muscular 6"6) for no reason. These drugs are bad and they are illegal
    without a prescription for a reason. I hope the NDP fire Tyndhall.

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