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On Wednesday, August 23, 2017 at 3:40:44 PM UTC-7, LowRider44M wrote:
Analyze the timeline, your a tech savvy reader.
The dossier, the hack, all BS.
Seth Rich gave his life fighting for Bernie Sanders.
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NYT Russian Lawyer Story Proves Dems Helped Create Trump-Russia Conspiracy
Theory
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Maxwell Anderson
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9:13 PM 07/10/2017
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The New York Times published a story on Saturday that revealed Donald Trump
Jr. met with Natalia Veselnitskaya, a “Russian lawyer who has connections to the Kremlin,” on June 9th, 2016. On Sunday, The Times followed up with a report that said Don
Jr. “was promised damaging information about Hillary Clinton before agreeing to meet with [the] Kremlin-connected Russian lawyer during the 2016 campaign, .
. .” Paul Manafort, President Trump’s campaign manager at the time, and Jared Kushner,
President Trump’s son-in-law and current advisor, also attended the meeting, according to The Times.
Of course, the typical figures are suggesting that this “proves” that
collusion between the Trump campaign and the Russian government occurred during
the election. But the critical detail of who sought to broker the meeting is wholly omitted in
both of The Times’ reports. In a statement to The Times, Don Jr. said, “I was asked to attend the meeting by an acquaintance, but was not told the name of the person I would be meeting with beforehand.” This individual’s name has not officially
been revealed. The Washington Post suggested the person was Rob Goldstone, a music publicist and personal friend of Don Jr. Don Jr. has neither confirmed nor denied Goldstone’s involvement.
Okay, that is a truly ridiculous crock. It almost qualifies as
"fake news". Goldstone was *obviously* involved. He sent the first
email on it. And so what if little Donnie wasn't told the Russian
lawyer's NAME in the first email. What possible difference does
that really make?
Below is the email Donny Jr got from Goldstone, which HE published.
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On Jun 3, 2016, at 10:36 AM, Rob Goldstone wrote:
Good morning
Emin just called and asked me to contact you with something very interesting. The Crown prosecutor of Russia met with his father Aras this morning and in their meeting offered to provide the Trump campaign with some official documents and information that would incriminate Hillary and her dealings with Russia and would be very
useful to your father.
This is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of Russia and its government's support for Mr. Trump - helped along by Aras and Emin.
What do you think is the best way to handle this information and would you be able to speak to Emin about it directly?
I can also send this info to your father via Rhona, but it is ultra sensitive so wanted to send to you first.
Best
Rob Goldstone
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So obviously little Donny knew who was asking and what it was about.
It is totally clear it involves high level Russian operatives.
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On Jun 3, 2016, at 10:53, Donald Trump Jr. wrote:
Thanks Rob I appreciate that. I am on the road at the moment but perhaps I just
speak to Emin first. Seems we have some time and if it's what you say I love it
especially later in the summer. Could we do a call first thing next week when I
am back?
Best,
Don
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Little Donnie says he loves it, and wants to do a call on it.
And there's evidence they DID do a call on it too.
That's why Goldstone implies later that he's "aware of" the meeting.
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Skipping some of the stuff...
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On Jun 7, 2016, at 4:20 PM, Rob Goldstone wrote:
Don
Hope all is well
Emin asked that I schedule a meeting with you and The Russian government attorney who is flying over from Moscow for this Thursday.
I believe you are aware of the meeting - and so wondered if 3pm or later on Thursday works for you?
I assume it would be at your office.
Best
Rob Goldstone
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On Jun 7, 2016, at 5:16 PM, Donald Trump Jr. wrote:
How about 3 at our offices? Thanks rob appreciate you helping set it up.
D
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So "Emin" and Goldstone obviously helped Donnie set up the meeting
with the Russian lawyer.
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Now, back to your bullshit:
Whoever the acquaintance was, subsequent reporting by Circa News said that
members of the President’s legal team have confirmed that the acquaintance “who sought the meeting is associated with Fusion GPS.” Based on other contemporaneous events,
this account seems highly probable.
Huh? What "acquaintance who sought the meeting?"
This is a completely insubstantial claim.
As Donnie's own email shows: "The Crown Prosecutor of Russia"
(Natalia Veselnitskaya) and "his father Aras", via "Emin" and
"Rob Goldstone" sought to set up the meeting. And then they
followed through and actually did set it up. Duh.
It is important to remember exactly what was transpiring in the late spring
and early summer of 2016. Specifically, the key timeframe is April-June 2016. It was during this time that three different event trajectories converged: (1) Trump becoming the
presumptive Republican nominee, (2) the Democratic National Committee (DNC) learning and disclosing that Russian hackers penetrated its computer network, and (3) Democratic Party operatives hiring Fusion GPS to conduct opposition research on Trump.
And none of that has anything to do with the price of tea in China.
Trump became the presumptive GOP nominee either in late April or early May,
depending on who you ask. Trump declared himself to be the presumptive nominee on April 26th, after sweeping the primary election contests in Connecticut, Delaware, Rhode
Island, Maryland and Pennsylvania. One week later, on May 3rd, then-chairman of
the Republican National Committee Reince Priebus declared Trump to be the presumptive nominee after Trump emerged victorious from the heavily contested Indiana primary
contest, which led Republican Texas Senator Ted Cruz to drop out of the race.
So what?
Trump’s presumptive nomination is significant here for other, less obvious
reasons. That is because, according to The New York Times, during the Republican primaries,
a wealthy Republican donor who strongly opposed Mr. Trump put up the
money to hire a Washington research firm run by former journalists, Fusion GPS,
to compile a dossier about the real estate magnate’s past scandals and weaknesses.
Yep. And?
However, The Times continued,
After Mr. Trump emerged as the presumptive nominee in the spring, the
Republican interest in financing the effort ended. But Democratic supporters of
Hillary Clinton were very interested, and Fusion GPS kept doing the same deep dives, but on behalf
of new clients.
Yep. And?
Until this time, there was no known coordinated effort to investigate
Trump’s alleged “ties” to Russia. But, as The Times noted, that all changed in June:
Really? That's your big theory?
That is laughable. Trump's "alleged ties" to Russia? Ha ha ha!
Paul Manaforte, Trump's first campaign chair, resigned just two
months later partly over major pressure regarding his actual ties
to Russian oligarchs. Trump's first National Security Advisor
Michael Flynn would also end up resigning over his ties to and
conversations with the Russians. Two other major Trump advisors,
Carter Page and Roger Stone were both shown to have ties to Russia
as well.
That's far from all the connections; I'm just tired of listing them.
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/03/connections-trump-putin-russia-ties-chart-flynn-page-manafort-sessions-214868
In June, the tenor of the effort suddenly changed. The Washington Post
reported that the Democratic National Committee had been hacked, apparently by Russian government agents, and a mysterious figure calling himself “Guccifer 2.0” began to publish
the stolen documents online.
The above-mentioned Washington Post article was published on June 14th, 2016.
What The Post did not note, however, was that the DNC knew Russia was behind the hack long before its article was published.
Public reports confirm the DNC’s early knowledge of Russia’s involvement
in the hack. The Washington Post article says “DNC leaders were tipped to the
hack in late April.” The specific date, according to a separate report from The New York
Times, was “[t]he day before the White House Correspondents’ Association dinner,” which occurred on April 30th, meaning that the DNC was notified of the intrusion on April 29th. Within 24 hours of the notification, The Times reported, the DNC “
hired CrowdStrike, a cyber security firm,” which The Washington Post said “installed software on the DNC’s computers so that it could analyze data that could indicate who had gained access, when and how.” A DNC lawyer told The Times that, “
Within a day, CrowdStrike confirmed that the intrusion had originated in Russia.”
This means the DNC knew Russia was behind the hack of their computer network
on May 1st, 2016.
No shit, Sherlock. So Crowdstrike confirmed Russia hacked the DNC.
The truth is, THREE different cybersecurity firms confirmed it.
Not just Crowdstrike.
And our National Security Agencies also confirmed Russia
was hacking into all kinds of stuff, including the DNC,
and most of it was in an attempt to help Trump.
From this the following timeline emerges:
April 26th, 2016: Trump declares himself the presumptive GOP nominee.
April 29th, 2016: DNC learns its computer system has been breached.
April 30th, 2016: DNC hires CrowdStrike.
[Late April-Early May]: Democrats begin funding Fusion GPS.
May 1st, 2016: CrowdStrike determines Russia perpetrated the hack.
May 3rd, 2016: Reince Priebus declares Trump the presumptive GOP nominee.
June 9th, 2016: Don Jr. meets with Russian lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya
at the apparent request of a Fusion GPS operative.
June 14th, 2016: The DNC publicly discloses the Russia hacked its
computer network.
Except there was no "apparent request of a Fusion GPS operative".
That is your desperate revisionist attempt to spin it all to create
the insinuation of some conspiracy theory. Back then nobody had any
idea Donnie Jr. met with Russians. Nobody even knew about that.
And yet you buy this shit?
The DNC refused to disclose that Russia hacked its computer network for a
month-and-a-half, and only disclosed that fact after the Fusion GPS-brokered meeting between Don Jr. and Veselnitskaya.
Yes, and they only disclosed it right after a terrorist shot
up that Night Club in Orlando, killing 49, but that had nothing
to do with the meeting between Don Jr. and Veselnitskaya either. :)
There is another disturbing aspect of this story. Recall that Don Jr., in
both of his statements, said he was never told the name of the individual with whom he was meeting. (Neither story even indicates that Don Jr. knew before the
meeting that the
individual was a Russian national, let alone a Russian lawyer.)
Complete nonsense. The first email Goldstone sent little Donnie
clearly indicated it WAS a meeting with high-level Russians.
This strongly suggests that Fusion GPS was involved in a dirty tricks campaign
that sought to question and undermine Trump’s loyalty to the country by portraying him as a having close ties to the Kremlin, a tactic that has emerged
as a primary point
of opposition to candidate and now President Trump.
No evidence in any way connects Fusion GPS to the meeting between
Trump Jr. and the Russians. Nothing except you asserting it
to create your stupid little conspiracy theory.
Particularly troubling is how early the Democratic Party operatives appear to have been conspiring to make the Russia-Trump connection.
LOL. At least half-a-dozen of Trump's people have been *proved*
to not only have Russian connections, but to have LIED about their
connections at least once to boot.
No one needed to "conspire" to make it "appear" that Trump had
Russia connections. Jesus, his staff had so many Russia connections
it's almost hard to find one of his major appointees or staff members
who DIDN'T have Russia connections. :)
These revelations bring to light for the first time the likely involvement of
Democratic operatives in fomenting the Russia-Trump collusion conspiracy theory
that is now the subject of multiple Federal and Congressional investigations, which have had
the (convenient) effect of slowing Trump’s legislative agenda.
Indeed, the fact that the DNC knew, but kept secret, the fact that Russian
hackers were responsible for their computer breach at around the same time that
Democratic operatives began funding the group that would go on to broker a meeting between Trump
s inner circle and a high-profile Russian national appears highly sinister.
Indeed, you have NOT shown some unknown "Democratic operatives"
brokered the meeting between Donnie Jr and the Russians. Jesus.
That's pure bunk.
The DNC probably didn't want to advertise they had been hacked until
they had time to look into it themselves, that's all. It makes them
look bad, and any sane organization would be tempted to try to get a
better handle on what happened before revealing it in public.
But no, it all just had to be part of some dastardly conspiracy. :)
And if it wasn't, you're going to make one up.
At the very least, these circumstances warrant an investigation, something
that I am confident California Democratic Representative Adam Schiff, the most outspoken Democrat on the Russia conspiracy theory, would support.
I feel certain that Schiff himself would tell you what a clueless
dick stain you are.
On the issue of circumstantial evidence acting as the basis for federal investigations, I’ll give Schiff the last word and let his words speak for themselves:
Is it possible that all of these events and reports are completely
unrelated, and nothing more than an entirely unhappy coincidence? Yes, it is possible. But it is also possible, maybe more than possible, that they are not coincidental, not
disconnected and not unrelated, . . . We simply don’t know, not yet, and we owe it to the country to find out.
When Schiff said that, he was laying out what he considered to be
a mountain of evidence tying Trump to Russia. :) Since you posted
this garbage, I insist that you go read every word Schiff really
said in context:
http://www.businessinsider.com/adam-schiff-trump-russia-connections-ties-evidence-2017-3
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