From:
slider@anashram.com
thang, who likes to joust, wrote...
Let me put this factually (as ever) and simply:
### - problem is: your analysis lacks all objectivity and factuality?
several things you 'accuse' them of being exactly the same things we in
the west do, and have been doing all along too!
1. CCP crushed Hong Kong democracy.
### - the west 'stole' hong king from them in the first place and planted
our own little frontier fort-outpost there, just like we did with israel
in the middle east...
the chinese got rid of it there, the middle east didn't...
2. CCP suppresses faith groups and organisations.
### - religion being the 'opium of the people' is their philosophy; it's
all bs to them...
and who's to say they're wrong? (religion IS bs!)
3. Tiananmen Massacre.
### - do i really need to list ALL the massacres we in the west have
committed and are guilty of too?? all far-far worse than tiananmen! e.g.,
how about the uk bombarding hong kong from the sea and colonising it to
'force' them into buying OUR opium?? (literally opium in this instance lol)
to suggest that the chines are 'worse' than us and thus deserve to die
because of 'their' massacres compared to ours, is totally unreasonable...
not 'factual' at all :)
4. Covering up the origin of the virus outbreak.
### - cite the 'proof' of them 'deliberately' inventing & releasing it and
i'll concede?
you can't! so again: NOT factual!
5. Infiltrating and undermining other sovereign nations.
### - like WE in the west have NEVER done anything like that too???
lol, every major nation has it's 'james bonds' and intelligence gathering!
to denigrate the chinese for being similar is to only denigrate ourselves
into the bargain, so again: NOT a factual/genuine reason to hate them!
6. Cultural Revolution - torture, execution and public humiliation of intelligentsia, middle class, all things capitalistic, all things traditional.
### - we in the west have done 'exactly' the same things in our own way,
all of the above applies!
i.e., one thus cannot criticise them without also criticising ourselves?
to do so being more 'emotional' (i.e., emotionally biased) than factual...
7. Forced organ harvesting.
### - you're saying/suggesting it's a state-sponsored/sanctioned thing
with them??
proof & citations please :)
8. Persecution of Falun Gong.
### - just another consistent action in-line with their philosophy that
all religion is bs and is subversive because of that. they also persecuted christians at one time for exactly the same reasons...
or are you seriously suggesting that religion ISN'T bs??
look, i don't personally like what they did to the tibetans, either... i
don't 'hate' them because of it though, i just despise their
philosophy/lack of objectivity in the matter... coz the tibetans are
alright! but only if one agrees that, like religion: ALL philosophy is
also bs! that ALL such 'belief 'systems are thus bs! (coz imho they are! they're ALL man-made!)
9. Total and absolute surveillance of every aspect of everyone's
life.
### - the uk is currently THE most watched people in the world, there are,
for example, more cc-tv cameras here than anywhere else! every email &
text is scanned and there's been no such thing as a private phone call for decades...
i.e., if you allow/justify yourself to hate the chinese for 'this' then
you also have to extend that to us in the west as well, no? (i agree the
whole thing stinks, but this isn't just limited to the chinese alone, they
ALL do it!)
10. Social Credit Scores, established on rules made by the CCP.
### - it's exactly the same in the west! it's identical!
they have their rules/justifications and we have ours and it all works out
just about the same in the end?
what a coincidence!!!
not :)
And, there is much, much more.
This is just a simplistic reminder for those whose ignorance leads
them to apologies. And ultimately to surrender.
### - "simplistic" being exactly how i'd describe your analysis lol...
so now, bearing all i've said/refuted above, run all that past me again
and let's see if you've learned anything? (smile)
so are we stepping back a little bit more now?
i.e., just a little farther 'back' and you'll be right where i am; laffing
at the lot of 'em ;)
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