• Ukraine may seek nuclear weapons if left out of NATO: Diplomat

    From slider@1:229/2 to All on Sunday, April 18, 2021 02:15:04
    From: slider@anashram.com

    Kyiv’s ambassador to Germany calls on the transatlantic security alliance
    to grant Ukraine long-sought membership.

    16 Apr 2021

    A Ukrainian diplomat has reportedly warned Kyiv may be forced to acquire nuclear weapons to safeguard the country’s security if NATO does not
    accede to its membership demand amid spiralling tensions with neighbouring Russia.

    Andriy Melnyk, Ukraine’s ambassador to Germany, suggested to national
    public radio network Deutschlandfunk on Thursday that President Volodymyr Zelensky’s administration was weighing up all possible options as fears
    mount over a possible escalation of hostilities in the country’s conflict-stricken east.

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/4/16/ukraine-may-seek-nuclear-weapons-if-left-out-of-nato-diplomat

    “Either we are part of an alliance like NATO and also make our
    contribution to strengthen this Europe, or we have only one option; to
    rearm ourselves,” Germany’s DPA news agency quoted Melnyk as saying. “How else could we guarantee our defence?”

    His comments came after intensified fighting in recent weeks in Ukraine’s Donetsk and Luhansk regions, where government forces have battled Russian-backed separatists since the rebels seized a swath of territory
    there in April 2014.

    Meanwhile, Russia has amassed tens of thousands of troops as well as tanks
    and artillery near the shared border in the region. Moscow has also
    mobilised troops in the annexed Black Sea region of Crimea, which it
    annexed from Ukraine in March 2014.

    Kyiv’s NATO push

    Ukraine is currently an ally of NATO, but not a member. It has sought to
    launch accession talks for years but has consistently been turned down.

    The issue has acquired renewed urgency of late as a result of the
    stand-off with Moscow.

    Earlier this month, Kyiv called for its entry into the alliance to be fast-tracked, saying it was the only way to end the conflict in the Donbas region, of which Donetsk and Luhansk are a part.

    Moscow opposes Kyiv’s ascension bid and has accused NATO and leading
    member the United States of turning Ukraine into a “powder keg” with increasing arms supplies to the country.

    NATO, meanwhile, has told Ukraine to roll out domestic reforms and develop
    its defence capabilities in order to be considered for membership.

    While a ceasefire halted full-scale warfare in Donbas in 2015, sporadic
    clashes never ceased

    Zelensky said on Friday that he had again raised the issue of Ukraine’s
    NATO membership bid while attending talks with French President Emmanuel
    Macron in Paris. German Chancellor Angela Merkel also joined the
    discussions in the French capital via video link.

    The Ukrainian president told reporters following the meeting that he felt supported by France and Germany, both of which are NATO members, with
    regards to his country’s action plan for joining the alliance.

    He also said he was ready to hold four-way talks that included Russian President Vladimir Putin to calm relations with its neighbour, adding that
    he thought a separate meeting between US President Joe Biden and Putin
    proposed by Washington could help solve some issues.

    ### - well perhaps NOW we can see/get a hint as to wtf's going on there
    and why?

    quote from above:
    "Moscow opposes Kyiv’s ascension bid and has accused NATO and leading
    member the United States of turning Ukraine into a “powder keg” with increasing arms supplies to the country.

    NATO, meanwhile, has told Ukraine to roll out domestic reforms and develop
    its defence capabilities in order to be considered for membership."

    ***

    and of course russia wouldn't exactly be very happy with 'that'
    eventuality huh!

    that, and the apparent arming of ukraine behind the scenes with offensive
    after everyone involved said they wouldn't be doing that and could only
    send them defensive weapons?

    from russia's pov, one way to, of course, obviate the problem altogether, being for russia to keep their former promise/threat of taking over
    ukraine completely rather than having nato coming (or operating) 'through' ukraine, in which case nato would then have no other option but to either attack russia directly AS nato, or keep out of it altogether...

    i mean, it's one thing to get ukraine to do it for them acting as a
    nato-proxy, and another thing altogether of nato going at russia head-on
    in what then becomes a fully annexed ukraine?

    in which case a clock is now ticking! one in which russia is waiting to
    see if they NEED to annex ukraine as a whole or not!

    what keeps ringing in my ears being obama's words after crimea was annexed
    of: "it's not a done deal! it's not a done deal!" implying that crimea
    would indeed be taken back at some point?

    well, it LOOKS LIKE that 'time' is maybe gonna be now!

    damn!

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  • From slider@1:229/2 to All on Sunday, April 18, 2021 03:16:54
    From: slider@anashram.com

    ### - yet another clue/hint?


    UK warships to sail for Black Sea in May as Ukraine-Russia tensions rise - Sunday Times

    British warships will sail for the Black Sea in May amid rising tensions between Ukraine and Russia, the Sunday Times newspaper reported, citing
    senior naval sources.

    The deployment is aimed at showing solidarity with Ukraine and Britain's
    NATO allies, the newspaper reported.

    https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/uk-warships-sail-black-sea-may-ukraine-russia-tensions-rise-sunday-times-2021-04-18/

    One Type 45 destroyer armed with anti-aircraft missiles and an
    anti-submarine Type 23 frigate will leave the Royal Navy's carrier task
    group in the Mediterranean and head through the Bosphorus into the Black
    Sea, according to the report.

    RAF F-35B Lightning stealth jets and Merlin submarine-hunting helicopters
    will stand ready on the task group's flag ship, the carrier HMS Queen Elizabeth, to support the warships in the Black Sea, the report added.

    Tensions between Moscow and Kyiv have been rising amid a build-up of
    Russian troops along the border and clashes in eastern Ukraine between the
    army and pro-Russian separatists. read more

    Officials at the UK Ministry of Defence were not immediately available for comment.

    A ministry spokesman told the newspaper that the UK government was working closely with Ukraine to monitor the situation and continued to call on
    Russia to de-escalate.

    "The UK and our international allies are unwavering in our support for Ukraine's sovereignty and territorial integrity", the newspaper quoted the spokesman as saying.

    ***

    the phrase: "Ukraine's sovereignty and territorial integrity" being that
    new clue/hint?

    i.e., ukraine's sovereignty isn't threatened by russia's build-up being
    there only in order to just reinforce the rebels in the south should they
    come under attack, anymore than their sovereignty was threatened by them
    being there all this time...

    their "sovereignty and territorial integrity" only being threatened should russia make some attempt to annex ukraine itself??

    which is obviously then what everyone's concerned is possibly russia's
    current agenda!

    there only being very few reasons why russia would ever wanna do that
    after all this time caught in a stalemate?

    not good!

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