From: allreadydun@gmail.com

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-k8HCUexXUs

what can a poor boy do now?
2000 years later and we're still fucked.
anyhow sing it Leon seems about right for today 4-4-21

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From: slider@anashram.com

Suspect in Capitol attack suffered delusions, source says

The man who rammed a car into two officers at a barricade outside the U.S. Capitol, killing one of them before he was shot to death by police, had
been suffering from delusions, paranoia and suicidal thoughts, a U.S.
official told The Associated Press on Saturday. Investigators believe it
was an isolated incident from a disturbed young man.

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/04/03/suspect-in-capitol-attack-suffered-delusions-source-says-479005

Video of the Friday afternoon attack shows the driver emerging from the
crashed car with a knife in his hand and starting to run at the pair of officers, Capitol Police acting Chief Yogananda Pittman told reporters.
Police shot the suspect, 25-year-old Noah Green, who died at a hospital.

Investigators are increasingly focused on Green’s mental health as they
work to identify any motive for the attack, said the official, who was not authorized to speak publicly about an ongoing investigation and spoke to
The AP on condition of anonymity. The official said investigators had
talked to Green’s family, who spoke of his increasingly delusional
thoughts.

In online posts since removed, Green described being under government
thought control and said he was being watched. He described himself as a follower of the Nation of Islam and its founder, Louis Farrakhan, and
spoke of going through a difficult time when he leaned on his faith. Some
of the messages were captured by the group SITE, which tracks online
activity.

“To be honest these past few years have been tough, and these past few
months have been tougher,” he wrote in late March. “I have been tried with some of the biggest, unimaginable tests in my life. I am currently now unemployed after I left my job partly due to afflictions, but ultimately,
in search of a spiritual journey.”

It was the second line-of-duty death this year for the U.S. Capitol
Police, still struggling to heal from the Jan. 6 insurrection. The attack underscored that the building and campus — and the officers charged with protecting them — remain potential targets for violence.

Authorities installed a giant fence around the Capitol perimeter and for
months restricted traffic along the roads closest to the building, but
they had begun pulling back some of the emergency measures. And the most
recent incident could delay the gradual reopening of the building’s
grounds to the public.

### - ah god, from former tyrannical presidents to religious idiots
walking around the streets...

we're SURROUNDED by nutjobs?? LOL ! :)))

(sheesh, sometimes it honestly feels like am the last sane man left on
planet wallyworld)

could even be ;)

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From: slider@anashram.com

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-k8HCUexXUs

what can a poor boy do now?

### - gamble! what else! :)

it's all it ever was all along anyway only people usually take it for all
being real instead?

but all that made-up/added-up crap was just in our societal heads!

as in if/when it all starts adding up 'wrong' that's precisely when they
starts shooting up the goddamn place haha :D

2000 years later and we're still fucked.

### - 2000 years? so that be jesus right?

sure he wanted things to be better, what sane person wouldn't??

so they quickly nailed that fucker to the nearest tree lol, he was having
too much effect apparently :)))

along with all the others down the ages until only the nutjobs remained!

(same as it ever was here apparently heh)

anyhow sing it Leon seems about right for today 4-4-21

### - it's true that artists in general have a very different/alternate
pov...

perhaps that's why they've always been persecuted & marginalised?

"the bleeding hearts & artists who walk up & down outside the wall"
according to the floyd

fuckers just wont do things for the money like normal people see, call it selling-out if ya do!

and the miss ratchets of this world punish ya if ya don't play-ball?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQbk2C4ZmsE (more clarity through leon's
eyes)

so will always cheer for the artists ;)

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From: slider@anashram.com

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQbk2C4ZmsE (more clarity through leon's eyes)

### - freakin' link disappeared since only yesterday duh...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0iL5aOJ7LR8

'stranger in a strange land'

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From: libertidad@south.south.com

On Sun, 04 Apr 2021 18:53:00 +0100, slider <slider@anashram.com>
wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-k8HCUexXUs

what can a poor boy do now?

### - gamble! what else! :)

Brian, there are many philosophical arguments and views against
gambling - ranging from ethical, moral to straight out common sense.

The house will always win because it's LEGISLATED that the house can
only make a profit of I think in the region of 2-3%. That is, common
sense tells me that statistically, in the long and meaningful run of randomness, you WILL LOSE.

I don't gamble and never have. I have had a few addictions the last
being I think speed which I terminated around 15 years ago. I no
longer smoke, I still drink but sparingly (lol) but I have never, ever
gambled beyond dabbling with weekly lotto.

Let's talk correlations. Here, pensions are means tested and that
does not take into account the value of one's home or the first $400K
in visible and disclosable assets (ponder what I mean here...). Yet,
in my first year of retirement, we are still getting around maximum
only one third of the total age pension - due to assets testing
eliminating the rest. We are more or less financially independent.

I don't think there are age pensions in the US but i know there are in
the UK. Do you get the full pension mate? I'm saying there is a
correlation between what we've ended up with and the fact that one of
us is a fairly heavy gambler over lifespan and the other is not.

A bird in the hand is worth much more, in the long run, than a bird in
the bush (Aussie saying).

it's all it ever was all along anyway only people usually take it for all >being real instead?

but all that made-up/added-up crap was just in our societal heads!

as in if/when it all starts adding up 'wrong' that's precisely when they >starts shooting up the goddamn place haha :D

2000 years later and we're still fucked.

### - 2000 years? so that be jesus right?

sure he wanted things to be better, what sane person wouldn't??

so they quickly nailed that fucker to the nearest tree lol, he was having
too much effect apparently :)))

along with all the others down the ages until only the nutjobs remained!

(same as it ever was here apparently heh)

anyhow sing it Leon seems about right for today 4-4-21

### - it's true that artists in general have a very different/alternate >pov...

perhaps that's why they've always been persecuted & marginalised?

"the bleeding hearts & artists who walk up & down outside the wall"
according to the floyd

fuckers just wont do things for the money like normal people see, call it >selling-out if ya do!

and the miss ratchets of this world punish ya if ya don't play-ball?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQbk2C4ZmsE (more clarity through leon's >eyes)

so will always cheer for the artists ;)

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From: slider@anashram.com

On Thu, 08 Apr 2021 03:55:48 +0100, o'Mahoney <libertidad@south.south.com> wrote:

On Sun, 04 Apr 2021 18:53:00 +0100, slider <slider@anashram.com>
wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-k8HCUexXUs

what can a poor boy do now?

### - gamble! what else! :)

Brian, there are many philosophical arguments and views against
gambling - ranging from ethical, moral to straight out common sense.

The house will always win because it's LEGISLATED that the house can
only make a profit of I think in the region of 2-3%. That is, common
sense tells me that statistically, in the long and meaningful run of randomness, you WILL LOSE.

I don't gamble and never have. I have had a few addictions the last
being I think speed which I terminated around 15 years ago. I no
longer smoke, I still drink but sparingly (lol) but I have never, ever gambled beyond dabbling with weekly lotto.

Let's talk correlations. Here, pensions are means tested and that
does not take into account the value of one's home or the first $400K
in visible and disclosable assets (ponder what I mean here...). Yet,
in my first year of retirement, we are still getting around maximum
only one third of the total age pension - due to assets testing
eliminating the rest. We are more or less financially independent.

I don't think there are age pensions in the US but i know there are in
the UK. Do you get the full pension mate? I'm saying there is a
correlation between what we've ended up with and the fact that one of
us is a fairly heavy gambler over lifespan and the other is not.

A bird in the hand is worth much more, in the long run, than a bird in
the bush (Aussie saying).

it's all it ever was all along anyway only people usually take it for
all
being real instead?

but all that made-up/added-up crap was just in our societal heads!

as in if/when it all starts adding up 'wrong' that's precisely when they
starts shooting up the goddamn place haha :D

2000 years later and we're still fucked.

### - 2000 years? so that be jesus right?

sure he wanted things to be better, what sane person wouldn't??

so they quickly nailed that fucker to the nearest tree lol, he was
having
too much effect apparently :)))

along with all the others down the ages until only the nutjobs remained!

(same as it ever was here apparently heh)

anyhow sing it Leon seems about right for today 4-4-21

### - it's true that artists in general have a very different/alternate
pov...

perhaps that's why they've always been persecuted & marginalised?

"the bleeding hearts & artists who walk up & down outside the wall"
according to the floyd

fuckers just wont do things for the money like normal people see, call
it
selling-out if ya do!

and the miss ratchets of this world punish ya if ya don't play-ball?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQbk2C4ZmsE (more clarity through leon's
eyes)

so will always cheer for the artists ;)

### - perhaps you misunderstand the above... because life itself is a
gamble, one in which the house 'always' wins in the end (which is what i
was actually metaphorically saying/suggesting to mr chips between the
lines)

so when faced with impossible odds and/or a situation in which one doesn't really 'know' what to do, all we really have left at our disposal is a calculated/informed gamble... iow: to consider all the various known
factors involved and then make a calculated choice...

the only alternative being to let life decide everything for us and imho
that's just too passive an option, for sure most people are only too
content to do that (the vast majority actually) but my innate rebellious nature, however, always has me alternating between merely acquiescing to
life's demands versus that of spitting right in its eye and saying fuck
you! ;)

and although i know this wont ultimately change anything about the house winning anyway in the end, nevertheless i've still had some great wins
that i wouldn't have had otherwise ;)

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From: libertidad@south.south.com

On Thu, 08 Apr 2021 12:40:29 +0100, slider <slider@anashram.com>
wrote:

On Thu, 08 Apr 2021 03:55:48 +0100, o'Mahoney <libertidad@south.south.com> >wrote:

On Sun, 04 Apr 2021 18:53:00 +0100, slider <slider@anashram.com>
wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-k8HCUexXUs

what can a poor boy do now?

### - gamble! what else! :)

Brian, there are many philosophical arguments and views against
gambling - ranging from ethical, moral to straight out common sense.

The house will always win because it's LEGISLATED that the house can
only make a profit of I think in the region of 2-3%. That is, common
sense tells me that statistically, in the long and meaningful run of
randomness, you WILL LOSE.

I don't gamble and never have. I have had a few addictions the last
being I think speed which I terminated around 15 years ago. I no
longer smoke, I still drink but sparingly (lol) but I have never, ever
gambled beyond dabbling with weekly lotto.

Let's talk correlations. Here, pensions are means tested and that
does not take into account the value of one's home or the first $400K
in visible and disclosable assets (ponder what I mean here...). Yet,
in my first year of retirement, we are still getting around maximum
only one third of the total age pension - due to assets testing
eliminating the rest. We are more or less financially independent.

I don't think there are age pensions in the US but i know there are in
the UK. Do you get the full pension mate? I'm saying there is a
correlation between what we've ended up with and the fact that one of
us is a fairly heavy gambler over lifespan and the other is not.

A bird in the hand is worth much more, in the long run, than a bird in
the bush (Aussie saying).

it's all it ever was all along anyway only people usually take it for
all
being real instead?

but all that made-up/added-up crap was just in our societal heads!

as in if/when it all starts adding up 'wrong' that's precisely when they >>> starts shooting up the goddamn place haha :D

2000 years later and we're still fucked.

### - 2000 years? so that be jesus right?

sure he wanted things to be better, what sane person wouldn't??

so they quickly nailed that fucker to the nearest tree lol, he was
having
too much effect apparently :)))

along with all the others down the ages until only the nutjobs remained! >>>
(same as it ever was here apparently heh)

anyhow sing it Leon seems about right for today 4-4-21

### - it's true that artists in general have a very different/alternate
pov...

perhaps that's why they've always been persecuted & marginalised?

"the bleeding hearts & artists who walk up & down outside the wall"
according to the floyd

fuckers just wont do things for the money like normal people see, call
it
selling-out if ya do!

and the miss ratchets of this world punish ya if ya don't play-ball?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQbk2C4ZmsE (more clarity through leon's >>> eyes)

so will always cheer for the artists ;)

### - perhaps you misunderstand the above... because life itself is a
gamble, one in which the house 'always' wins in the end (which is what i
was actually metaphorically saying/suggesting to mr chips between the
lines)

Life, the small chance that your father's one out of billions of
spermatazoans made it to your mother's fertile ovum, your life span
genetic lottery limitations - all "life's gambles" which are OUT OF
OUR CONTROL.

Just like the huge comet which is hitting earth next week, OUT OF OUR
CONTROL.

I was referring to your horse punting and so on, but mainly your horse
punting, which is IN YOUR CONTROL.

And my ABSTENTION from gambling in casinos, horse punting, sports
betting - which is force of will which is an expression of SELF
CONTROL.

so when faced with impossible odds and/or a situation in which one doesn't >really 'know' what to do, all we really have left at our disposal is a >calculated/informed gamble... iow: to consider all the various known
factors involved and then make a calculated choice...

Not always a gamble at all. Sometimes every relevant factor can be
calculated, and in the absence of invisible variables, certain choices
can be made with knowledge of say, 99.99% desired outcomes.

You would call that a "sure thing" lol

the only alternative being to let life decide everything for us and imho >that's just too passive an option, for sure most people are only too
content to do that (the vast majority actually) but my innate rebellious >nature, however, always has me alternating between merely acquiescing to >life's demands versus that of spitting right in its eye and saying fuck
you! ;)

Well if our ancestors "let life decide everything for us", we would
have become extinct a million years ago. That's not even an
alternative.

and although i know this wont ultimately change anything about the house >winning anyway in the end, nevertheless i've still had some great wins
that i wouldn't have had otherwise ;)

Now tell me about ALL of your losses, all of them, in total.

See what I mean?

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From: slider@anashram.com

On Sat, 10 Apr 2021 01:51:22 +0100, o'Mahoney <libertidad@south.south.com> wrote:

On Thu, 08 Apr 2021 12:40:29 +0100, slider <slider@anashram.com>
wrote:

On Thu, 08 Apr 2021 03:55:48 +0100, o'Mahoney
<libertidad@south.south.com>
wrote:

On Sun, 04 Apr 2021 18:53:00 +0100, slider <slider@anashram.com>
wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-k8HCUexXUs

what can a poor boy do now?

### - gamble! what else! :)

Brian, there are many philosophical arguments and views against
gambling - ranging from ethical, moral to straight out common sense.

The house will always win because it's LEGISLATED that the house can
only make a profit of I think in the region of 2-3%. That is, common
sense tells me that statistically, in the long and meaningful run of
randomness, you WILL LOSE.

I don't gamble and never have. I have had a few addictions the last
being I think speed which I terminated around 15 years ago. I no
longer smoke, I still drink but sparingly (lol) but I have never, ever
gambled beyond dabbling with weekly lotto.

Let's talk correlations. Here, pensions are means tested and that
does not take into account the value of one's home or the first $400K
in visible and disclosable assets (ponder what I mean here...). Yet,
in my first year of retirement, we are still getting around maximum
only one third of the total age pension - due to assets testing
eliminating the rest. We are more or less financially independent.

I don't think there are age pensions in the US but i know there are in
the UK. Do you get the full pension mate? I'm saying there is a
correlation between what we've ended up with and the fact that one of
us is a fairly heavy gambler over lifespan and the other is not.

A bird in the hand is worth much more, in the long run, than a bird in
the bush (Aussie saying).

it's all it ever was all along anyway only people usually take it for
all
being real instead?

but all that made-up/added-up crap was just in our societal heads!

as in if/when it all starts adding up 'wrong' that's precisely when
they
starts shooting up the goddamn place haha :D

2000 years later and we're still fucked.

### - 2000 years? so that be jesus right?

sure he wanted things to be better, what sane person wouldn't??

so they quickly nailed that fucker to the nearest tree lol, he was
having
too much effect apparently :)))

along with all the others down the ages until only the nutjobs
remained!

(same as it ever was here apparently heh)

anyhow sing it Leon seems about right for today 4-4-21

### - it's true that artists in general have a very
different/alternate
pov...

perhaps that's why they've always been persecuted & marginalised?

"the bleeding hearts & artists who walk up & down outside the wall"
according to the floyd

fuckers just wont do things for the money like normal people see, call >>>> it
selling-out if ya do!

and the miss ratchets of this world punish ya if ya don't play-ball?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQbk2C4ZmsE (more clarity through
leon's
eyes)

so will always cheer for the artists ;)

### - perhaps you misunderstand the above... because life itself is a
gamble, one in which the house 'always' wins in the end (which is what i
was actually metaphorically saying/suggesting to mr chips between the
lines)

Life, the small chance that your father's one out of billions of spermatazoans made it to your mother's fertile ovum, your life span
genetic lottery limitations - all "life's gambles" which are OUT OF
OUR CONTROL.

Just like the huge comet which is hitting earth next week, OUT OF OUR CONTROL.

I was referring to your horse punting and so on, but mainly your horse punting, which is IN YOUR CONTROL.

And my ABSTENTION from gambling in casinos, horse punting, sports
betting - which is force of will which is an expression of SELF
CONTROL.

### - well that was precisely my point thang, the whole thing is totally
out of anyone's control...

no one chose ANY of this, no one bought tickets to come here!

ya just wake up one day and you're here and it's all going on, the only 'choice' we have being to take part or to abstain!

so when faced with impossible odds and/or a situation in which one
doesn't
really 'know' what to do, all we really have left at our disposal is a
calculated/informed gamble... iow: to consider all the various known
factors involved and then make a calculated choice...

Not always a gamble at all. Sometimes every relevant factor can be calculated, and in the absence of invisible variables, certain choices
can be made with knowledge of say, 99.99% desired outcomes.

You would call that a "sure thing" lol

### - there's no such thing as a sure thing except maybe that of cutting
one's own throat and quitting altogether that is haha... act/don't act:
that's all there is!

the only alternative being to let life decide everything for us and imho
that's just too passive an option, for sure most people are only too
content to do that (the vast majority actually) but my innate rebellious
nature, however, always has me alternating between merely acquiescing to
life's demands versus that of spitting right in its eye and saying fuck
you! ;)

Well if our ancestors "let life decide everything for us", we would
have become extinct a million years ago. That's not even an
alternative.

### - whole species have come & gone and no one made a single choice about
it, that's how nature works! the illusion of control being just that: an illusion!

and although i know this wont ultimately change anything about the house
winning anyway in the end, nevertheless i've still had some great wins
that i wouldn't have had otherwise ;)

Now tell me about ALL of your losses, all of them, in total.

See what I mean?

### - everyone loses in the end innit: house rules! (everybody dies!)

and there's nada anyone can actually do other than to take part or
abstain! be there or hide from it!

place yer bets/don't place any bets: that's all we have!

when it comes to actual betting (on the horses) that just the daily
press-ups that keeps ya on your toes, a daily reminder of the stupendous
odds we're all up against so ya don't go getting complacent!

that in that sense it's 'good' to lose! (keeps your feet firmly on the
ground see?)

the 'surprise' is thus when against all odds ya win! :)))

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