From:
slider@anashram.com
On Tue, 19 Jan 2021 01:12:27 -0000, thang ornerythinchus <
thangolossus@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 12 Jan 2021 23:18:58 -0000, slider <slider@anashram.com>
wrote:
### - taking a cue from thang re my ranting the other day (hadn't
thought
of it like that at the time but then maybe it was) just thought maybe it
IS time then for a little one, albeit one perhaps more suited to my
nature
+ deliberately done ;)
that here i am sitting here watching all this crap + hatred people have
for america (which is no small thing btw because there's people, even
whole nations, that totally despise america!) and am kinda sorry about
that because imho america actually has an awful lot to offer the world
besides gangsters and corruption & shit? (they invented jazz didn't they
for instance no? and that's a biggie!)
Who hates America? Only the jealous fuckheads in Russia, China, Iran
and NK.
### - have you any idea of just how many people are represented 'by'
russia, china & iran??? (for iran read islam as a whole, so basically the
whole of the middle east and beyond) that's a shed-load of people!!!
billions!
the problem here being your pov based on your position being just right of center, whereas being just left of center (for example) allows one to see
the whole of humanity as being just that: one single whole! one single
entity! whereas being just right of center creates the false impression of
not including everyone IN what whole... and that's a mistake see? an error
of judgement that allows one group within that whole to discriminate
against other groups and consider them as being somehow inferior, and
that's all just wrong ya know? i.e., there's only one ship we're all
sailing in and ya can't cut it in half an expect it to still keep afloat,
see?
I don't hate America, I think they are marvellous tribes
which are solely immigrant stock apart from the indiginous people who originally migrated from Asia across the land bridge into Alaska and
thence down the continent (much the same as our Aboriginals who
migrated from India down the land bridge into Aussieland).
### - the world looks on america as being an experiment see? peoples from
all different nations all coming together an acting as one united nation:
a model for the world! - at least that was the idea! - problem is it's
been run almost exclusively by gangsters (like trump!) and then lapses
into sheer hypocrisy when they discriminate against the blacks and their
own native americans, see?
A world without the US would be an impoverished world. Particularly,
we in Australia owe them eternally for saving our arses from the Nips
in a little thing called the Battle of the Coral Sea. The Nips were
on their way down to subjugate Australia because all our menfolk in
the professional army were fighting Rommel and Co, at the behest of
the THEN colonial masters, the fucking Brits.
Then the Yanks arrived and blew the Japs out of the water.
### - can easily understand all that no problemo, but nothing of that
detracts from the fact that america has been trying to put its own stamp
on the rest of the planet gangster-style? the problem being that the japs
were a competing ideology/gang for world domination so it was in the
wests' best interests to put the block on them, ditto germany, the
russians, china & islam! if you think they actually gave a shit about
australia per se then that's incorrect, they didn't! and still don't!
that it really 'has' gots plenty to offer the world besides being the
worst of humanity!?
Oh c'mon, the worst of humanity? Try that Putin cunt, or Xi, or the
pricks who run Iran and NK. They are the worst of humanity. They are exactly the opposite of the American (and Australian) concepts of
personal freedom. And no freeloading parasitic aristocracy in the US
either.
### - they've been doing a very good impression then of being (and acting
like) the worst of humanity rather than its best, they surely have the potential to represent the best of it but haven't to date, their
aspiration to world domination has perforce corrupted them quite badly,
they still have it in them to do so though but never while under a
right-wing government...
Trump was doomed to fail in the US. The US is the embodiment of
freedom.
### - trump very nearly fucking succeeded lol, almost half of it (75
million of it's active voters for example) 'love' all that law & order
bullshit that justifies imposing their crappy will on others and screw democracy per se?
a world that's really struggling and suffering like never before! that's
possibly even dying right in front of our very eyes and no fucker's even
really doing anything about it besides talk that never really comes to
anything!
Mass extinction events have plagued life for the last 2 billion years.
The worst, killing over 95% of ALL life on this planet, was when
oxygen was introduced into the biosphere. However, without that event
we would not be here, nor any other highly organised complex organism.
### - natural mass extinctions are one thing, man-made mass extinction is something else altogether...
As long as we get into space permanently, it doesn't matter. The earth
will heal, and if it doesn't, then time to look for other homes.
### - we might get into space eventually, to mars and to maybe a few moons
of jupiter & saturn, the rest is just pure science fiction & bs though and would totally depend on faster than light travel ever becoming a
reality... an empty dream used as a cop-out for neglecting & destroying
the only 'home' we'll really ever have! that is unless you really think
living in totally artificial environments on mars and a few moons is a
better home for us that what we already have?? (of course not)
that all this 'america first' and being all for 'itself' bs that's got
everyone so riled up, the 'make america great again' sentiment that that
cunt trump made a point of appealing to and exploiting, is, in reality,
all just the emotional struggles of an angry young man, one who is
actually coming of age and is finally growing up!
in which case, maybe it's TIME to give the demos their head see? time
for
people to start seeing them as they 'really' are and what they more
'genuinely' represent instead of all the scare stories of the past
that's
been pushed onto people who don't even really know what they're fuckin'
doing anyway?
and because they (the left) actually believes in equality and peace &
art
and shit for real, see?
HAHAHAHBWAhahahahahHAHA <GASP> bwaHAHAHAH
Stalin, Xi (Uighurs, don't forget), NK - look up the Holodomer,
numerous purges, Mao's war against the Nationalists, etc etc etc.
You might care to express that sentiment a little differently,
perhaps?
### - i already have! very clearly! but you keep going to the extremes for answers/solutions and insights?
that all the real + genuine answers/solutions exist in the position 'just'
left of center, not way over to the far left! (how many times do i have to repeat this before it sinks in??)
the far right 'and' the far left are completely nuts! totally insane! see?
to be intelligent & sane there has to be the correct balance of the two!
and that balance is struck at a position just left of center as opposed to
just right of center for all the reasons given... you really have to think about this a bit more...
that in america sorting out their current troubles (literally being
forced
to!) it might just represent the dawning of a NEW america! one that
breaks
away from the despotism and gangster-type domination of the past which
was
ultimately only looking out for itself, to that of becoming a more
genuine
leader in the world and as such a genuine force for good in which
'everyone' gets a shot instead of everyone 'being' shot! the american
constitution as then applied to the whole world!
Well I wish we STILL had loose gun laws like we once had and like the
US has. I like my guns, especially nice semi-auto small cal like
Ruger .22 carbines, shotties and so on. Time was one could buy them
here off the wall in Woolworths, I know because I bought a .22 10 shot
about 40 years ago and drove it back here to Perth from North Qld (got
drunk one night and snapper the motherfucker in half and threw it in
the ocean).
I like the US gun laws and I like their Constitution. Betcha you
Brits don't have anything like the US Constitution and nor do we. But
then again, we didn't have to fight a war for our freedom and then a
war for the freedom of the slaves. They've earned the right to be
armed.
### - all their 'guns' have made them insane and power hungry see?
so ALL that shit has gots to go! the 'need' for guns has got to go! and
because anything less than that IS insanity!
i mean, the african americans might just be the 'soul' of america! the
part no one fucking listens to ya know?
I've been to New Orleans and while there, the Jazz Festival which was
then (1998) held at the race course. Don't tell me no one listens to
the blacks. I listened among clouds of pot (we weren't smoking, New
Orleans was too dangerous to let your guard down) to the Neville
Brothers (black) singing Yellow Moon, then the Doobie brothers (white)
and many other well known names most if not all from NOLA.
People listen to the blacks, believe me. They are very, very cool.
### - that's not borne out by the current statistics though thang? the
blacks are discriminated against at every turn! else why do they feel they
have to get up there and claim that black lives matter?? the history of
the blacks in america everyone needs to know about in its fullness because
of this, incredibly valuable lessons exist in acquiring such an
understanding! trumpy actually wanted to 'rewrite' history to exclude
black history rather than truly welcoming them into the community, don't
you see that?? books on black history were accordingly literally being
piled up ready for burning!
that as someone that was basically raised in the black community i know
for sure it's gotta lot to offer! my first real mentor was a poverty
stricken hustler from the streets of kingston jamaica for fuck sake! one
whom for reasons entirely of his own and completely beyond my
understanding, took a very young and naive slider under his wing and
showed him around! ffs why?? i learned sooo much from that dude it's
untrue! and he never once asked me for a goddamned thing in return!
he didn't have to do it anyway, is my point, and could've just ripped me
off and i wouldn't have even known any different lol... but he didn't!
and
am a much better person for it!
iow: they actually have an awful lot to contribute! and that's just the
black community! there's far more than just that alone lurking on the
left
to be discovered!
all that literature for instance! all that poetry! all that... LIFE!
Well they're not too good at literature but music, they are gods.
### - was actually still talking/speaking in terms of the left, not just
the blacks who're part of the left, see? - their music, their art (their
more developed 'soul') is what i was talking about...
GOOD life!
and 'america' could be the first to do it! to ultimately unite the world
in a better, far more mature manner & way, like for real!!!
that it's got everything going for it but is currently just a little
confused is all, is obviously in turmoil and in inner conflict coz it's
still young see? is still looking inward when it needs to start looking
outward! is self absorbed and conflicted instead of being more
interested
in the rest of the world of which it's a major part + in which it has a
major role to play! to stop being so paranoid (out of guilt) and to get
rid of all those guns! to not even NEED them anymore because it's LOVED
by
the world instead of being feared & hated!
that the right wing could never bring america to all that see? it's only
in them to dominate! whereas on the left you gots cooperation and
sharing
and stuff, things that're completely beyond the ken of the right-wing
altogether!
that in that sense maybe some 'good' can actually come out of all this?
Yep. Entertainment.
### - haha... am sorry thang, i can't get any entertainment whatsoever
outta blacks being lynched?
that's not what i consider entertainment anyway, far from it... and
actually makes me feel sick to my stomach just thinking about it? (oh the
tears i've cried for those poor people, for the native americans, and for
the aboriginal people of australia too? dreadful crimes against humanity
all!)
some intelligence! some growing up!
and as a result: a far better world for ALL.
(rant done hehe)
;)
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