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### - remember the "flyers"? bobby?
i.e., i seem to remember cc saying/suggesting that he was obsessed for a
while checking it all out but was unable to find any reference to them,
that dj seemed to be the only source?
well that's maybe not quite correct if/when ya examine some of the very
early myths & legends concerning such creatures...
e.g., the 'Jann' which apparently was/were the ancestors of the jinn, or
genies or persian origin, as we know of them?
a race of beings made of fire who came from another dimension or realm,
unlike the angels who were made of light who came from a different realm,
and mankind who was made of clay from this realm...
the stories/myths perforce are rather vague, this 'jann' supposedly
existing 2000 years 'before' adam in that story (so are some of the oldest persian tales going then)
e.g., "The Medieval Sunni mystic Ibn Arabi, famous for his teachings of
Unity of Existence, describes Jann, the father of jinn, as the origin of
animal power. Accordingly, God created Jann as the interior of human
beings, the animal soul hidden from the senses. Among the strongest powers
of the animal power is the power of illusion, which is materialized in
Satan, interpreted metaphorically as one of the descendants of Jann in Ibn Arabis' metaphysics"
got it? i.e., don't worry about the words & terms used (satan, god and
shit heh) but rather it's association with the power of illusion somehow
seated within a human being?
this from wikipedia: compiled from several different eastern myths
Jann (Arabic: جان, romanized: Jānn, plural Arabic: جِنَّان, romanized:
Jinnān or Arabic: جَوَان, romanized: Jawān) is the ancestor of the jinn
in Islam-related beliefs. They are said to have inhabited the earth before Adam, ruled by a king called Jann ibn Jann. In folklore however, many
consider them to be punished and turned into the weakest class of jinn, comparable how apes are seen as transformed humans.[1] The father of the
jinn is also called Abu Al-Jann.
Jann from the Semitic root JNN is an Arabic term, whose primary meaning is
"to hide" and can also refer to an agile snake.[2] It is a neuter singular
for jinn, while Jinni and Jinniyya(h) are either adjectives, or masculine
and feminine singulars or both. In the Quran this term appears in Surah
15:27 and Surah 27:10 to designate a supernatural creature or a
serpent.[3] Many mufassirs regard jann as the ancestors of the jinn,[4] in contrast the jinn appliying to a wide range of supernatural creatures, and
came later into existence. Some consider jann to be the first of the jinn
only, and likewise identify him with Iblis or Azazil, created from the
fires of samum.[1][5] However, the majority distinguishes between Iblis,
the father of devils and Jann the father of jinn.
Sahih Muslim describes Al-Jann as being created out of a mixture of fire, contrasted with the angels created from light and humans created from clay-mud.[7] Another hadith, mentioned in the collection of Al-Tirmidhi, reports that Muhammad sought refuge in God from Al-Jann, the father of
jinn, until Surah Al-Nas and Surah Al-Falaq have been revealed
In Persian Islamic legends, the world was ruled by Jann ibn Jann (Son of
Jann), two thousand years before Adam was created. Jann ibn Jann offended
the heavens, whereupon God sent Al-Harith (Iblis) with an army of angels
to chastise him.[9] But Jann ibn Jann refused to submit to the angels and
a war ensued. At the end, Jann ibn Jann was overthrown by Al-Harith and
the angels, who reigned the world onwards instead.[10] Many Arabs regard
the Pyramides of Giza as remains of the works done under the rule of Jann
ibn Jann.[11]
The Medieval Sunni mystic Ibn Arabi, famous for his teachings of Unity of Existence, describes Jann, the father of jinn, as the origin of animal
power. Accordingly, God created Jann as the interior of human being, the
animal soul hidden from the senses. Among the strongest powers of the
animal power is the power of illusion, which is materialized in Satan, interpreted metaphorically as one of the descendants of Jann in Ibn
Arabis' metaphysics.
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am not saying that it is or it isn't, only that it's an interesting
correlation no?
the christian version of it being about a war in heaven whereby these
fuckers ended up here tormenting us lot (devils, demons and shit + snakes
in the garden?)
a different twist/spin on more familiar stories perhaps...
otherwise who the hell knows haha, certainly not moi :)))
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