• So Brian...

    From thang ornerythinchus@1:229/2 to All on Friday, August 07, 2020 11:13:13
    From: thangolossus@gmail.com

    You're 65 right? Same age as me, born in 1955? Correct?

    Lived in Wandsworth or Tooting some considerable time ago? Like in
    the hippie era? Plenty of dope and acid around then, I should know :)

    And you are Irish aren't you? Some of your siblings born there,
    unlike you?

    Or am I barking up the wrong tree?

    woof woof :) let's be friends puppy boi...


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  • From slider@1:229/2 to thangolossus@gmail.com on Friday, August 07, 2020 05:58:42
    From: slider@anashram.com

    On Fri, 07 Aug 2020 04:13:13 +0100, thang ornerythinchus <thangolossus@gmail.com> wrote:

    You're 65 right? Same age as me, born in 1955? Correct?

    Lived in Wandsworth or Tooting some considerable time ago? Like in
    the hippie era? Plenty of dope and acid around then, I should know :)

    And you are Irish aren't you? Some of your siblings born there,
    unlike you?

    Or am I barking up the wrong tree?

    woof woof :) let's be friends puppy boi...

    ### - friends eh? + fyi am only half-irish and was born here in london...

    but just why these rather trifling personal details are so important to
    you seems daft really? it's like you imagine you're now in some kind of position of strength compared to before, when, in reality, none of it
    makes even one iota of difference to the subject of the debates/arguments
    we've previously exchanged nor their current outcomes?

    your mistake all along (like jeremy) being to try and make 'any' of the
    things we've attempted to discuss, personal? i mean, wtf has me smoking or
    not, or drinking or not, or even being irish got to do with anything whatsoever?? nada! it's got nada to do with say global warming for
    instance, has it??

    my opinion(s) & pov hasn't changed, and can't be coerced into changing
    either lest i would have to deny my own life experiences, and even if
    somehow you 'could' coerce me it wouldn't then be my honest opinion
    anymore and so what would be the point of that?? it's not like that would
    then make your version correct or anything!

    that this was the whole problem with jeremy, in the sense that he didn't
    have enough 'ammo' to back up his arguments intellectually and so
    resorted, time & again, to mere slander & invective at the point of
    failure, something which did anything 'but' prove his points, if not
    actually being a tacit admission of his failure to do so!

    as such, he ended up just continually trying to prove me wrong in some
    fashion or another, any fashion! it didn't even seem to matter 'how'
    exactly if only he could find some flaw in 'anything' i was
    saying/suggesting lol, him literally + inanely then routinely
    contradicting absolutely everything i then said haha, it was actually
    quite ridiculous? :)))

    thus i ended up calling him disingenuous because he obviously had no
    intention whatsoever of actually 'discussing' anything whatsoever heh, all
    he ever wanted to do was to cuss me off at any/every opportunity no matter
    the subject matter lol, until he was basically talking gibberish!

    now you & i can only go one of 2 ways thangs, especially considering our
    past?

    i.e., we can discuss 'anything' until the cows come home no problem! (i do
    so love an intelligent debate!) but it HAS to be in the 3rd-party ok?
    whereas if it's going to just be about you or me personally etc then am
    just not interested... i wont indulge you!

    we will also have to have a fair rule... i.e., that just as soon as one
    person (or the other) lapses into slander/invective in any form other than jokingly (i don't mind jokingly such as calling each other cunts and stuff haha) then it will be accepted that that particular debate has just been
    lost to the one 'being' slandered!

    iow: none of the 'personal' stuff matters whatsoever afaic, am not even remotely interested in things of that nature, personal things having nada
    to do with the whatever subject matter in-hand that's under discussion, therefore someone deviating onto that has basically run out of
    intellectual ammo to continue the debate with, see? they've effectively conceded the whatever debate!

    that it thus takes a certain amount of 'discipline' to keep 'self' out of
    the equation?

    and if ya can't do that then it's better we don't even start coz it'll
    just end up (as always, yawn) with a bunch of dumb name-calling that
    doesn't go anywhere...

    so now then... what would ya like to talk about? :)

    (and am only going to give ya a couple of shots at this btw, or will just
    have to put you back in the ignore-list again: sit you back the
    naughty-chair? haha) ;)

    we'll soon see if we 'can' be friends huh...

    or at least act as such...

    am genuinely curious to know :)

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  • From luckyrat@1:229/2 to All on Saturday, August 08, 2020 07:58:11
    From: allreadydun@gmail.com

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egSoj3g99gY


    go for broke

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  • From slider@1:229/2 to All on Saturday, August 08, 2020 17:07:08
    From: slider@anashram.com

    go for broke

    ### - go all the way ;)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cA46ZNjrzeY

    "stand up and be counted, thinking in a brand new way..."

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  • From LowRider44M@1:229/2 to slider on Sunday, August 09, 2020 18:33:39
    From: intraphase@gmail.com

    On Friday, August 7, 2020 at 12:59:04 AM UTC-4, slider wrote:
    On Fri, 07 Aug 2020 04:13:13 +0100, thang ornerythinchus


    You're 65 right? Same age as me, born in 1955? Correct?

    Lived in Wandsworth or Tooting some considerable time ago? Like in
    the hippie era? Plenty of dope and acid around then, I should know :)

    And you are Irish aren't you? Some of your siblings born there,
    unlike you?

    Or am I barking up the wrong tree?

    woof woof :) let's be friends puppy boi...

    ### - friends eh? + fyi am only half-irish and was born here in london...

    but just why these rather trifling personal details are so important to
    you seems daft really?

    Never under estimate your opponent

    it's like you imagine you're now in some kind of
    position of strength compared to before, when, in reality, none of it
    makes even one iota of difference to the subject of the debates/arguments we've previously exchanged nor their current outcomes?

    Sounds like you think walking backwards off a cliff
    hurts less than running full speed ahead straight forward.


    your mistake all along (like jeremy) being to try and make 'any' of the things we've attempted to discuss, personal?

    Everything is personal to you.

    i mean, wtf has me smoking or
    not, or drinking or not, or even being irish got to do with anything whatsoever?? nada! it's got nada to do with say global warming for
    instance, has it??

    Typical tangential confabulate,
    next comes the 3-5 paragraph "WALL OF JELLO"


    my opinion(s) & pov hasn't changed, and can't be coerced into changing
    either

    You don't have a POV, all of your ideas are borrowed.
    Were you to have an original thought it might kill you.

    lest i would have to deny my own life experiences,

    A prisoner in your house is a sad tale.

    and even if
    somehow you 'could' coerce me it wouldn't then be my honest opinion
    anymore and so what would be the point of that?? it's not like that would then make your version correct or anything!

    Right and wrong are for children and old women.
    He doxxed you and your not clever enough to dox him back.


    that this was the whole problem with jeremy,

    He's not here to debate your deflection.
    I don't remember you losing a bet to Jeremy.
    I don't remember you refusing to pay a debt to Jeremy

    in the sense that he didn't
    have enough 'ammo' to back up his arguments intellectually and so
    resorted, time & again, to mere slander & invective at the point of
    failure,

    You lost every argument by doing what you did above.
    Foisting yourself on your own petard with tangential psychobabble.

    Example: How does that change Mickey Rourkes addiction to plastic surgery. Maybe Robert Diniro reminds him of the guy who molested him as a child,
    and Mickey doesn't squabble over masturbating to Nelson Mandela reading
    Rimbaud out while Camus watches (add psycho) hehehe weird INNIT.

    something which did anything 'but' prove his points, if not
    actually being a tacit admission of his failure to do so!


    He walked away when it became obvious your impaired.
    In your mind you fought titanic battles to absolute victory.
    To the outside reader... "YOU WERE NEEDY... REENACTING TRAUMA"


    as such, he ended up just continually trying to prove me wrong in some fashion or another,

    See leave it there.

    any fashion!

    Instead you don the hyperbole of your opponent is M.A.D.
    But not you, lord knows your the sanest person you've ever met.


    it didn't even seem to matter 'how'
    exactly if only he could find some flaw in 'anything' i was
    saying/suggesting lol, him literally + inanely then routinely
    contradicting absolutely everything i then said haha, it was actually
    quite ridiculous? :)))

    You loved it and miss him deeply :-))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) :-))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) :-))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) :-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))


    thus i ended up calling him disingenuous because he obviously had no intention whatsoever of actually 'discussing' anything whatsoever heh,

    Your psycholical assessment of your own personality disorder.
    You didn't even remember CRSD move back to Cali from Arizona
    so absorbed are you in the fictional portraits of external
    people you create in your chess board mind.


    all
    he ever wanted to do was to cuss me off at any/every opportunity no matter the subject matter lol, until he was basically talking gibberish!

    I don't remember him doing anything but lambasting your stupidity.
    You would bait and goad him and if he had time to spare he'd smack
    your nose with a rolled up news paper. Then you'd act chaotic and retreat.



    now you & i can only go one of 2 ways thangs, especially considering our past?


    That's an all or nothing perfectionist failure binding.
    In this game there are no rules, no winners, no losers.
    Your entire reality is based on being a good cyber wife.
    But your little nestlings are dependent on ADC and the
    outlet it provides

    i.e., we can discuss 'anything' until the cows come home no problem! (i do
    so love an intelligent debate!)

    Your in desperate need of a fix.

    but it HAS to be in the 3rd-party ok?

    Wishful thinking sport.

    whereas if it's going to just be about you or me personally etc then am
    just not interested... i wont indulge you!


    Like you pretend to kill file people.

    we will also have to have a fair rule... i.e., that just as soon as one person (or the other) lapses into slander/invective in any form other than jokingly

    You've gone insane from fear old son.

    (i don't mind jokingly such as calling each other cunts and stuff
    haha) then it will be accepted that that particular debate has just been
    lost to the one 'being' slandered!


    No winners, no loser, no up, no down, no right, no wrong.

    iow: none of the 'personal' stuff matters whatsoever afaic, am not even remotely interested in things of that nature,

    You made it personal, he responded.
    A lot of greedy fuckers know you Brian.
    You played all in for the whole pot on a bluff and got called.

    personal things having nada
    to do with the whatever subject matter in-hand that's under discussion, therefore someone deviating onto that has basically run out of
    intellectual ammo to continue the debate with, see? they've effectively conceded the whatever debate!

    It stopped being a debate a long, long, time ago Hailsham Ave.


    that it thus takes a certain amount of 'discipline' to keep 'self' out of
    the equation?


    No it takes a borderline personality with no authentic self.
    Your as empty as the day your mother caught you diddling the boy.
    She should have admitted it was her mistake you got diddled as a kid.
    Not accepting blame is an intergenerational tragedy that led to a
    life of seclusion, only feeling safe to venture out after midnight.

    and if ya can't do that then it's better we don't even start coz it'll
    just end up (as always, yawn) with a bunch of dumb name-calling that
    doesn't go anywhere...


    Oh it went somewhere, it went all the way this time.
    You ended up prattling on about resentments and vendetta's
    from sixteen years ago. You got hammered, you lost everything
    in some naive, infantile belief that you were the master of the world.

    so now then... what would ya like to talk about? :)

    Let's talk about your sex life with children.
    According to your fellows your on the registry still.


    (and am only going to give ya a couple of shots at this btw, or will just have to put you back in the ignore-list again: sit you back the naughty-chair? haha) ;)


    Your like a character starring in a movie in his own head.
    Except the mask was ripped off, and your life trashed.
    Now you've rebuilt and your baiting and goading someone
    to trash you all over again. That's the pathology of failure.
    You need an excuse. Being nice and civil to your acolytes in
    the dream cult is to much for your disorder to bear or carry.

    we'll soon see if we 'can' be friends huh...


    Are you giving out candy Mr. Ahern.
    Is the candy in your pocket Mr. Bri Bri.
    I like candy, and it takes me a long long time to find it , hehe gigitty giggle.


    or at least act as such...

    am genuinely curious to know :)

    You are incapable of genuine.
    You are a collage of people you think you understood.
    There is no Brian Ahern on Hailsham Avenue in Brixton.
    There is a corpse who claims to be him,
    but the real Brian died a long time ago.

    The questions now are much deeper and answered only by time.

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  • From luckyrat@1:229/2 to All on Monday, August 10, 2020 08:28:42
    From: allreadydun@gmail.com

    and here is the best part..........

    "nobody is doing anything to anyone"

    no one can harm you--feel your own pain
    J.Lennon said that in a record

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  • From LowRider44M@1:229/2 to luckyrat on Tuesday, August 11, 2020 15:14:03
    From: intraphase@gmail.com

    On Monday, August 10, 2020 at 11:28:43 AM UTC-4, luckyrat wrote:
    and here is the best part..........

    "nobody is doing anything to anyone"

    no one can harm you--feel your own pain
    J.Lennon said that in a record


    Absolute Agreement
    Once you figure that out your free.

    A key line from Dylan
    "I ain't lookin' for nothin' in anyone's eyes"

    The Nothing is a being Brian calls "IT"
    The Anyone and Anything belongs to the girl.
    Hundreds of people have warned Brian but he is suicidal.
    After a series of "ALL or NOTHING" war strategy failures.
    Psychologically he is unable to grasp he is antagonizing everyone.


    Not Dark Yet
    by Bob Dylan
    https://youtu.be/RZgBhyU4IvQ


    Shadows are falling and I been here all day
    It's too hot to sleep and time is running away
    Feel like my soul has turned into steel
    I've still got the scars that the sun didn't let me heal
    There's not even room enough to be anywhere
    It's not dark yet, but it's getting there
    Well my sense of humanity is going down the drain
    Behind every beautiful thing, there's been some kind of pain
    She wrote me a letter and she wrote it so kind
    She put down in writin' what was in her mind
    I just don't see why I should even care
    It's not dark yet, but it's getting there
    Well I been to London and I been to gay Paree
    I followed the river and I got to the sea
    I've been down to the bottom of a whirlpool of lies
    I ain't lookin' for nothin' in anyone's eyes
    Sometimes my burden is more than I can bear
    It's not dark yet, but it's getting there
    I was born here and I'll die here, against my will
    I know it looks like I'm movin' but I'm standin' still
    Every nerve in my body is so naked and numb
    I can't even remember what it was I came here to get away from
    Don't even hear the murmur of a prayer
    It's not dark yet, but it's getting there

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