• 'We're in for a bad and rocky ride:' Ex-WHO docto rpredicts COVID-19 tu

    From slider@1:229/2 to All on Tuesday, August 04, 2020 18:12:15
    From: slider@anashram.com

    People will need a small yellow card at airports to show immunization
    against the COVID-19 virus. Schools, restaurants and sports stadiums will
    be equipped with quick, inexpensive testing stations for students and customers.

    The world will be fighting coronavirus for the next three to four years as virus hot spots skip from nation to nation, and the pandemic's toll will
    linger for decades, said Dr. Larry Brilliant, a California epidemiologist
    who was part of a World Health Organization team in the 1970s that helped eradicate smallpox.

    https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2020/08/03/covid-19-us-who-doctor-larry-brilliant/5574854002/

    But it's "not all doom and gloom," with effective vaccines likely to
    emerge from dozens of candidates worldwide and effective treatments,
    including convalescent plasma and monoclonal antibodies, to help people
    recover more quickly, said Brilliant, who chairs Ending Pandemics advisory board.

    "We will still be chasing the virus four years from now. But it won’t be
    like (today)," Brilliant told the USA TODAY Editorial Board on Monday afternoon. "It will be like the smallpox eradication program. The polio eradication program. Having yellow fever in some countries and not in
    others."

    Still, before vaccine trials weed out contenders from pretenders, the U.S. likely faces a substantial increase in cases and deaths. As of Monday, the nation had 4.7 million cases and 155,165 deaths, according to Johns
    Hopkins University.

    The immediate challenges are Labor Day get-togethers, the return of
    schools, flu season in the the fall and winter and long election lines in November, said Brilliant, who served as an adviser for the 2011 film "Contagion" and team doctors for the rock band Grateful Dead.

    Schools are fraught with transmission risks, he said, from bus rides to
    indoor crowds that can hasten spread — cafeterias, gyms, locker rooms, theaters and indoor swimming pools. And schools often spark respiratory
    disease and influenza season with infected children bringing viruses home.
    This will allow COVID-19 to grow and spread to areas where it's caused
    little disruption so far.

    He said the virus will continue to spread until something stops its
    growth, possibly the combination of effective vaccines with annual
    boosters and immunity among those who've developed antibodies to halt or
    limit future infections.

    A recent study in JAMA Internal Medicine estimated COVID-19 cases ranged
    from six to 24 times higher than official counts. The large federal study relied on antibody testing data in 10 cities to gauge whether individuals previously were infected with SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19. Antibody tests are different than diagnostic tests, which detect whether someone is currently infected.

    Brilliant said that if about 10% of U.S. residents have been infected so
    far, there's a long road ahead until the population reaches herd immunity
    and new transmissions burn out. By his estimate, there are "300 million
    more customers for this disease who have not bought it yet."

    The best way to halt the virus' march to herd immunity is for 50 states to adopt a uniform approach of masks, social distancing, hand-washing and
    limiting crowded indoor places such as bars and restaurants.

    He said combining those actions in a coordinated way would be as effective without the need for a total shutdown, which would create "political and emotional and economic hell if we close everything down in the same way we
    did before."

    He wants the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to take a stronger
    role in urging coordinate action to slow the virus. In the absence of
    federal leadership, governors could coordinate and act.

    Brilliant said federal health officials have navigated past outbreaks of
    Ebola, Zika and the swine flu pandemic in 2009-2010, which caused far
    fewer deaths than COVID.

    ### - all sounds about right barring some miracle-cure huh... meanwhile,
    the world and human society, is being reshaped as never before on the chessboard of life + who'd have thought such a 'small' thing (in this
    instance a virus) could have such a widespread effect eh?

    smile, now if i could only do summat similar with the old horses; of
    turning nada (i.e., 10-pence) into summat worth having: of turning a
    proverbial molehill into a mountain heh ;)

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  • From luckyrat@1:229/2 to All on Tuesday, August 04, 2020 13:02:43
    From: allreadydun@gmail.com

    china needs to fess up.
    what's up with that?
    they gonna get a pass ?
    pass my ass, pay up cocksucka.

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  • From slider@1:229/2 to All on Tuesday, August 04, 2020 21:29:54
    From: slider@anashram.com

    china needs to fess up.
    what's up with that?
    they gonna get a pass ?
    pass my ass, pay up cocksucka.

    ### - anger & blame is always easier to indulge in than actually getting
    down to dealing with the problem? and coz the only way we're gonna 'fix'
    this problem now is if the whole world acts in-concert to get rid of it...
    iow: it's all about 'global-efforts' now rather than individual efforts,
    and this as a matter of survival rather than pride... fuck pride! life is
    more important! it's time to grow up & move on :)

    and because all the money in the world wont matter if everyone's... dead ;)

    and because what about covid-20 & 21 to come, or 27! and/or some other
    damnable thing that'll circle the world the same way now it's no longer
    all only a scary theory! are we really ready for those now??

    i.e., we've reached a level of development whereby we HAVE to change now
    just as a matter of survival!

    and if we don't learn from our mistakes we'll lose! - game over!

    so bigger things are at-stake here than mere blame and reparations my
    friend...

    we're actually in-process of deciding our own... fate ;)

    (it's like a line from the terminator movie heh :)))

    now who's steering this fucking ship!? haha :)

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  • From luckyrat@1:229/2 to All on Tuesday, August 04, 2020 13:46:45
    From: allreadydun@gmail.com

    yeah whatever, those mofos needs to pay up.
    pay up first then we'll forgive them .

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  • From slider@1:229/2 to All on Tuesday, August 04, 2020 22:38:54
    From: slider@anashram.com

    yeah whatever, those mofos needs to pay up.
    pay up first then we'll forgive them .

    ### - well, if mandela had thought like that there wouldn't BE a s.africa today.

    iow: they chose to live rather than die squabbling over whose fault it all is...

    a fairly simple choice really considering mutually assured destruction was their only other choice in the matter heh...

    death being a certainty, they instead gambled on a different way of doin' things, a different system, one that included everyone instead of just a privileged few...

    and do ya know what? against all odds they survived ;)

    so now then, answer moi this: do ya really think we'd survive a war
    with... china??

    we gots far more nukes than them yes, but they still gots plenty!

    is that really what we want??

    is that what 'you' want?

    choose your next answer very carefully! coz it could possibly affect the
    whole world ;)

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  • From LowRider44M@1:229/2 to All on Tuesday, August 04, 2020 17:06:06
    From: intraphase@gmail.com

    Same with tactical nukes?
    https://youtu.be/itIO8M20j_E


    Lets not squabble Brian Christ.
    Just get ready for your turn on The Cross.

    It's coming...

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  • From luckyrat@1:229/2 to All on Tuesday, August 04, 2020 17:32:19
    From: allreadydun@gmail.com

    here's John Lennon in 2020:

    the way things are going we all are going to get crucified.

    China is liable for their actions.
    This isn't a 'free-for-all' world.
    You fuck up, you end up paying for your actions.
    No free rides in this carnival world.
    (jimmy buffett said that)

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  • From LowRider44M@1:229/2 to luckyrat on Tuesday, August 04, 2020 17:37:27
    From: intraphase@gmail.com

    On Tuesday, August 4, 2020 at 8:32:20 PM UTC-4, luckyrat wrote:
    here's John Lennon in 2020:

    the way things are going we all are going to get crucified.

    China is liable for their actions.
    This isn't a 'free-for-all' world.
    You fuck up, you end up paying for your actions.
    No free rides in this carnival world.
    (jimmy buffett said that)

    It's cause and effect, can't be stopped.
    WW III has arrived and bio weapon C19 is killing worldwide.
    People shall fuck with the communist until the last one is beheaded.

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  • From LowRider44M@1:229/2 to slider on Tuesday, August 04, 2020 17:40:33
    From: intraphase@gmail.com

    On Tuesday, August 4, 2020 at 5:39:14 PM UTC-4, slider wrote:
    yeah whatever, those mofos needs to pay up.
    pay up first then we'll forgive them .

    ### - well, if mandela had thought like that there wouldn't BE a s.africa today.

    iow: they chose to live rather than die squabbling over whose fault it all is...

    a fairly simple choice really considering mutually assured destruction was their only other choice in the matter heh...

    death being a certainty, they instead gambled on a different way of doin' things, a different system, one that included everyone instead of just a privileged few...

    and do ya know what? against all odds they survived ;)

    so now then, answer moi this: do ya really think we'd survive a war
    with... china??

    we gots far more nukes than them yes, but they still gots plenty!

    is that really what we want??

    is that what 'you' want?

    choose your next answer very carefully! coz it could possibly affect the whole world ;)



    Your obsession with niggers in prison is boring.
    He accomplished absolutely nothing and South Africa is the same.
    You just like the idea of putting niggers in holes because your a Marxists.
    You wouldn't last sixty seconds with my niggers, they'd see you and bury you.

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  • From slider@1:229/2 to All on Wednesday, August 05, 2020 02:05:49
    From: slider@anashram.com

    China is liable for their actions.
    This isn't a 'free-for-all' world.
    You fuck up, you end up paying for your actions.
    No free rides in this carnival world.
    (jimmy buffett said that)

    ### - all that's true, them's the rules alright hah, it's been an eye for
    an eye on this planet for nearly forever...

    but that's the old rules matey, it only leads to death... rules that
    brought us to this point in time for sure but which can't take us beyond
    it because they themselves are are now the limiting factor!

    i guess this is where shit like turning the other cheek comes into the
    picture then heh ;)

    that if ya 'adds' to it in any way ya only ultimately makes it even worse
    than it was, see?

    that is someone does something really shitty then that's THEIR problem not yours! THEIR shit not yours even if it affects you! thus to take it on in
    some way (in any way whatsoever actually) is only to 'add' to it and make
    it worse! now one nutjob having a fit has turned into 2 nutjobs having
    similar fits! is that any better??

    yield and win the battle glasshopper...

    if you can that is, if'n you not too proud to be 'able' to do so ;)

    (it's just so much easier to be a pig see? the default value grinz: do
    nada and ya ends up a pig!)

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