From: slider@atashram.com

### - you posting that video + your rather negative reaction (heh) to my comments on it re going with the flow being ok etc, prompted me to pick up
the art of dreaming and give it another scan? (slider takes a tea break
heh) and well, wasn't at it long before was reading this part, which, in a roundabout way, could be talkin' about aspects of WILDs that hadn't
picked-up on before...

a more 'advanced' form of WILDing perhaps! i.e., the 'direct' entering
into a waking-dream state in the blink of an eye (which is what happens
after a couple of quick WILDs anyway in that the hypnagogia stage is
seemingly dispensed with altogether...) the below excerpt differing only
in that any need to lay down & relax, for example, isn't required...

have chopped out a few unrelated passages here to keep it short but am
sure you'll recognise it:

i.e.,

He said then that it was time for me to have a practical application of
what I had learned
in dreaming. Without giving me a chance to ask anything, he urged me to
focus my
attention, as if I were in a dream, on the foliage of a desert tree
growing nearby: a
mesquite tree.

"Do you want me to just gaze at it?" I asked.
"I don't want you to just gaze at it; I want you to do some thing very
special with that
foliage," he said. "Remember that, in your dreams, once you are able to
hold the view of
any item, you are really holding the dreaming position of your assemblage point. Now,
gaze at those leaves as if you were in a dream, but with a slight yet most meaningful
variation: you are going to hold your dreaming attention on the leaves of
the mesquite
tree in the awareness of our daily world."

My nervousness made it impossible for me to follow his line of thought. He patiently
explained that by staring at the foliage, I would accomplish a minute displacement of my
assemblage point. Then, by summoning my dreaming attention through staring
at
individual leaves, I would actually fixate that minute displacement, and
my cohesion
would make me perceive in terms of the second attention. He added, with a chuckle, that
the process was so simple it was ridiculous.

[note: the above describing the process of WILDing via say relaxing until
you can see the hypnagogia and then examining their details?]

Don Juan was right. All I needed was to focus my sight on the leaves,
maintain it, and in
one instant I was drawn into a vortex-like sensation, extremely like the vortexes in my
dreams. The foliage of the mesquite tree became a universe of sensory
data. It was as if
the foliage had swallowed me, but it was not only my sight that was
engaged; if I touched
the leaves, I actually felt them. I could also smell them. My dreaming attention was
multisensorial instead of solely visual, as in my regular dreaming.

I was facing then,
from an elevation, an immense horizon. Dark mountains and green vegetation surrounded
me. Another jolt of energy made me shake from my bones out; then I was somewhere
else. Enormous trees loomed everywhere. They were bigger than the Douglas
firs of
Oregon and Washington State. Never had I seen a forest like that. The
scenery was such a
contrast to the aridness of the Sonoran desert that it left me with no
doubt that I was
having a dream.

I held on to that extraordinary view, afraid to let go, knowing that it
was indeed a dream
and would disappear once I had run out of dreaming attention. But the
images lasted,
even when I thought I should have run out of dreaming attention. A
horrifying thought
crossed my mind then: what if this was neither a dream nor the daily world?

Upon awakening I gave don Juan, at his request, a complete description of
what I had
seen and done. He warned me that it was not possible to rely on my
rationality to
understand my experience, not because my rationality was in any way
impaired but
because what had taken place was a phenomenon outside the parameters of
reason.

I, naturally, argued that nothing can be outside the limits of reason;
things can be obscure,
but sooner or later reason always finds a way to shed light on anything.
And I really
believed this.

Don Juan, with extreme patience, pointed out that reason is only a
by-product of the
habitual position of the assemblage point; therefore, knowing what is
going on, being of
sound mind, having our feet on the ground-sources of great pride to us and assumed to
be a natural consequence of our worth-are merely the result of the
fixation of the
assemblage point on its habitual place. The more rigid and stationary it
is, the greater our
confidence in ourselves, the greater our feeling of knowing the world, of
being able to
predict.

He added that what dreaming does is give us the fluidity to enter into
other worlds by
destroying our sense of knowing this world. He called dreaming a journey
of unthinkable
dimensions, a journey that, after making us perceive everything we can
humanly
perceive, makes the assemblage point jump out side the human domain and perceive the
inconceivable.

***

iow: the 'ability' to WILD, developed to the highest degree, might then
just result in one being deliberately able to shift directly into such
altered states on demand while we're still fully wide awake and sitting
up! :)

which is kinda what ya do anyway when WILDing, only the above dispenses
with the more lengthy first (relaxing) stage altogether of laying down and getting in the mood for 20 minutes (these days can often manage it within
only several minutes of laying down/closing my eyes, but never instantly
while am sitting there thinking about it...)

so is that perhaps what WILDing really is do ya think?

the clear ability to step outside of our usual reality at a moments notice
:)

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