• Face masks may be 'new normal' in post-virus life as U.S. prepares grad

    From slider@1:229/2 to All on Thursday, April 16, 2020 08:21:38
    From: slider@atashram.com

    NEW YORK (Reuters) - The death toll from the coronavirus pandemic in the
    United States approached 31,000 on Wednesday as governors began cautiously preparing Americans for a post-virus life that would likely include public
    face coverings as the “new normal.”

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-usa/face-masks-may-be-new-normal-in-post-virus-life-as-u-s-prepares-gradual-reopening-idUSKCN21X25I

    The governors of Connecticut, Maryland, New York and Pennsylvania each
    issued orders or recommendations that residents wear face masks as they
    emerge from isolation in the coming weeks.

    “If you are going to be in public and you cannot maintain social
    distancing, then have a mask, and put that mask on,” said New York
    Governor Andrew Cuomo, a Democrat.

    Similar orders were imposed in New Jersey and Los Angeles last week and
    face coverings were recommended by Kansas Governor Laura Kelly on Tuesday.

    California Governor Gavin Newsom has said residents across the nation’s most-populous state would likely be wearing masks in public for some time
    to come.

    “We are going to be getting back to normal; it will be a new normal,” Connecticut Governor Ned Lamont said, echoing a phrase used by at least
    two of his fellow governors in recent days.

    U.S. Midwest governors were also making plans together to restart their economies, said Jordan Abudayyeh, a spokeswoman for Illinois Governor J.B. Pritzker.

    In Michigan, hundreds of cars flooded the streets around the state Capitol
    in Lansing on Wednesday to protest Democratic Governor Gretchen Whitmer’s stay-at-home orders, some of the strictest in the country.

    Some protesters, in the demonstration organized by conservative and pro-President Donald Trump groups, left their cars to gather on the lawn
    in front of the Capitol building, many of them not wearing masks or
    practicing social distancing.

    TOLL ON HEALTHCARE STAFF

    As of Wednesday night, 30,885 people in the United States had died of
    COVID-19, the respiratory illness caused by the novel coronavirus,
    according to a Reuters tally.

    That includes more than 4,000 deaths newly attributed to the disease in
    New York City after health officials revised their counting methods to
    include “probable,” but unconfirmed, cases.

    Healthcare workers have faced unique health threats while working on the
    front lines trying to tackle the pandemic.

    Reuters has identified more than 50 nurses, doctors and medical
    technicians who have died after being diagnosed with COVID-19 or showing symptoms of it. At least 16 were in New York state.

    “The emergency room is like a war zone,” said Raj Aya, whose wife, Madhvi Aya - a physician’s assistant in Brooklyn - was one of the healthcare
    workers who died in New York.

    As the outbreak begins to slow, political leaders have bickered over how
    and when to begin the process of unwinding unprecedented lockdowns that
    have damaged the economy and largely confined Americans to their homes.

    Washington state Governor Jay Inslee told an afternoon news conference the largest obstacle to a return to normalcy was a shortage of coronavirus
    tests.

    “We simply haven’t had enough test kits – they simply do not exist anywhere in the United States right now,” Inslee said, adding the state
    had purchased about a million swabs, along with vials and test medium but
    they were just starting to arrive.

    At his daily White House briefing hours later, Trump boasted that the
    United States had “the most expansive testing system anywhere in the world”. But, he said, testing was a problem for the states and not the federal government.

    “We can’t be thinking about a Walmart parking lot,” where some testing is being done, but the states and cities should do that, he said.

    ‘ALMOST IN FREE FALL’

    Trump, citing data suggesting the peak of new infections had passed, said
    he would announce guidelines on Thursday for reopening the economy.

    The sweeping closures of businesses have left millions of Americans
    unemployed and store owners struggling to pay rent.

    Government data released on Wednesday showed that retail sales dropped by
    8.7% in March, the biggest decline since tracking began in 1992. Consumer spending accounts for more than two-thirds of U.S. economic activity.

    In addition, output at U.S. factories declined by the most since 1946 as
    the pandemic fractured supply chains.

    “The economy is almost in free fall,” said Sung Won Sohn, a business economics professor at Loyola Marymount University in Los Angeles.

    The United States, with the world’s third-largest population, has now suffered the greatest number of reported fatalities from the coronavirus,
    ahead of Italy and Spain.

    Globally, the number of infections has crossed the 2 million mark and over 136,000 people have died, a Reuters tally shows.

    The pathogen emerged last year in China.

    Trump said on Wednesday his government was trying to determine whether the coronavirus emanated from a lab in Wuhan, China, and Secretary of State
    Mike Pompeo said Beijing “needs to come clean” on what they know. The official death toll released by the Chinese government stands at about
    3,600.

    The source of the virus remains a mystery. General Mark Milley, chairman
    of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said on Tuesday that U.S. intelligence
    indicated the coronavirus likely occurred naturally, as opposed to being created in a laboratory in China, but there was no certainty either way.

    ### - the new norm huh?

    ok facemasks for... everyone!

    but for how long??

    weeks? months? forever?

    plus what about gloves? this shit remaining active on surfaces for an
    unknown period! (they were still finding viable fragments on surfaces
    17-days 'after' everyone had left that cruise ship for instance!)

    if you're gonna have masks then ya gots to have gloves as well!

    the 2020 fashion look?

    getcher' matching gloves & facemasks! :)))

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From LowRider44M@1:229/2 to All on Thursday, April 16, 2020 08:53:41
    From: intraphase@gmail.com


    ### - the new norm huh?

    ok facemasks for... everyone!

    but for how long??

    weeks? months? forever?

    plus what about gloves? this shit remaining active on surfaces for an
    unknown period! (they were still finding viable fragments on surfaces
    17-days 'after' everyone had left that cruise ship for instance!)

    if you're gonna have masks then ya gots to have gloves as well!

    the 2020 fashion look?

    getcher' matching gloves & facemasks! :)))

    Did my first shopping trip in the new apocalypse.
    About 80% of people were masked up. Toilet paper still empty.
    Arrows painted in aisle for one way traffic. Wait in line to
    enter store, someone comes out you go in.
    Stopped at the pharmacy before that and same ratio 80% masked.
    Street traffic amount was similar to 1970, very sparse.

    I understand artists by how they relate to eternal verses infinite.
    I'll add to your John and Paul thread using that lens.
    Neil like John is more orientated towards the eternal than the infinite.
    That is my preferred frame of reference also. Paul was John's protege.
    It was John who made an absolute commitment to be called the best by others.

    Neil Young came out with a song married to a video.

    Neil is an original and innovator,
    it's very hard and very easy to innovate.
    It can be boiled down to a simple question,
    "To learn is to suffer, are you willing to suffer the challenge?"


    Neil Young with Crazy Horse - Shut It Down 2020
    https://youtu.be/NeLdjvH57z4


    "Shut It Down"

    Have to shut the whole system down
    Have to shut the whole system down
    People tryin' to save this earth
    From an ugly death
    Have to shut the whole system down
    People tryin' to live, working
    In a world of meat factories

    Have to shut the whole system down
    All around the planet
    There's a blindness that just can't see
    Have to shut the whole system down
    They're all wearing climate change
    As cool as they can be

    Have to shut the whole system down
    Shut it down, shut it down
    Shut it down, shut it down

    Have to shut the whole system down
    That's the only way we can all be free
    Have to shut the whole system down
    Start again and build it for eternity

    Have to shut the whole system down
    What about the animals?
    What about the birds and bees?
    Have to shut the whole system down
    What about the bookshelves?
    What about the history?

    Have to shut the whole system down
    Shut it down, shut it down
    Shut it down, shut it down

    Shut it down, shut it down
    Shut it down, shut it down

    Have to shut the whole system down
    When I look at the future
    I see hope for you and me
    Have to shut the whole system down
    Working, working for eternity
    Work it now

    Have to shut the whole system down
    When I look at the future
    I see hope for you and me
    Have to shut the whole system down
    Working for eternity

    Gonna shut the whole system down
    Got to shut the whole system down
    Got to shut the whole system down

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From LowRider44M@1:229/2 to All on Thursday, April 16, 2020 09:28:54
    From: intraphase@gmail.com

    The idea of:
    []
    Embracing the pain
    Going completely insane
    The only way to start over
    The only way to start over
    Tried so hard to avoid this task
    Lied so hard we weren't wearing mask
    Then honesty came to stay
    We were awoken by the silence of pain
    []

    Neil: "Better to burn out then fade away" < The Phoenix/Butterfly theme.
    "The unexamined life is not worth living" Socrates before his execution.


    R.E.M. & Neil Young - Country Feedback
    https://youtu.be/Z4VfQBDoX6E

    "Country Feedback"

    This flower is scorched, this film is on
    On a maddening loop, these clothes
    These clothes don't fit us right
    I'm to blame
    It's all the same
    It's all the same

    You come to me with a bone in your hand
    You come to me with your hair curled tight
    You come to me with positions

    You come to me with excuses
    Ducked out in a row
    You wear me out
    You wear me out

    We've been through fake-a-breakdown
    Self-hurt, plastics, collections
    Self-help, self-pain
    EST, psychics, fuck all

    I was central, I had control
    I lost my head
    I need this, I need this

    A paperweight, junk garage
    Wedding ring, a honey pot
    Crazy, all the lovers have been tagged

    A hotline, a wanted ad
    It's crazy what you could've had

    It's crazy what you could've had
    It's crazy what you could've had
    I need this, I need this

    It's crazy what you could've had
    Crazy what you could've had
    I need it, I need this

    It's crazy what you could've had
    It's crazy what you could've had
    I need this, I, I need this

    It's crazy what you could've had
    I need this, I need this

    It's crazy what you could've had
    Crazy what you could've had
    I need this, I need this

    Crazy what you could've had
    Crazy what you could've had

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: www.darkrealms.ca (1:229/2)
  • From luckyrat@1:229/2 to All on Thursday, April 16, 2020 16:50:12
    From: allreadydun@gmail.com

    this reference is a little out of left field.
    but i was moved by this video i thought maybe
    others would be interested in viewing. This
    a little on the long side (2:31) minutes.
    But you won't be disappointed. Enjoy

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YE1yPCeF1Cc

    so i guess it's was true that i am god,
    you are god, we all are god. God's in
    3 piece suits. Fuck, the lucid dream was
    right on. And you'll like the part about
    death.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: www.darkrealms.ca (1:229/2)
  • From LowRider44M@1:229/2 to luckyrat on Thursday, April 16, 2020 18:48:02
    From: intraphase@gmail.com

    On Thursday, April 16, 2020 at 7:50:13 PM UTC-4, luckyrat wrote:
    this reference is a little out of left field.
    but i was moved by this video i thought maybe
    others would be interested in viewing. This
    a little on the long side (2:31) minutes.
    But you won't be disappointed. Enjoy

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YE1yPCeF1Cc

    so i guess it's was true that i am god,
    you are god, we all are god. God's in
    3 piece suits. Fuck, the lucid dream was
    right on. And you'll like the part about
    death.

    We each are a totality* of: -8-

    Harmony - Dissonance - Silence / Zero - One - Two / Almighty - God - Creator

    Totality as:
    We are Eternal Totality Infinite.
    Etudes, Sonatas, Concertos and Symphonies.
    Eternal as indestructible forms that open and close at infinite speed.
    Infinite as unmeasurable storage and processing in a truly private realm
    that is both sizeless and eternal.

    The Eternal in The Infinite
    The Infinite in The Eternal
    We are the line between what was and what might be.
    Our every breath and flinch changing everything by pure intuitive knowing.

    We are:

    Past - Present - Future / Pilot - Captain - Navigator
    As consciousness experiencing a: [] Natural Creator Sovereign []

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From LowRider44M@1:229/2 to All on Thursday, April 16, 2020 19:54:20
    From: intraphase@gmail.com

    He's a good guy, I could share a coffee and smoke with him.
    We have our perceptual preference differences but he is sincere
    as: Honest - Sincere - Courageous. If he paid me to cast judgement
    on him beyond, "A spirit of adventure on a journey of discovery,"
    that is the judgement I would cast: Honest - Sincere - Courageous.




    []

    No Ways
    All Ways
    Vs
    No Ways Banned

    Scientific modeling theorizing or equations. https://youtu.be/YE1yPCeF1Cc?t=8151

    I use equations to block repetitive content.
    The first thing 0-1-2 taught me was visual models
    of their consciousness, which is everyone's consciousness.

    Bohm calls it "The Ground of All Existence" and "The Player" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QI66ZglzcO0&t=1419s

    Why properly formatted equations penetrate and change The Totality.

    The Butterfly Effect
    "The field drops off but its effect does not,
    the effect depends only on the form not on the intensity." Bohm

    []

    Encountering The Infinite
    https://youtu.be/RNgns7nQ7rs?t=1907

    5-methoxy-N,N-dimethyltryptamine

    C13H18N20


    Effects
    02

    Vaporizing or smoking 5-MeO-DMT powder is probably the most common route of administration. The next common is snorting or insufflation.

    Effects from vaporizing or smoking 5-MeO-DMT are usually felt within the first 30 seconds, peaking from 1-15 minutes and lasting for up to half an hour. A threshold dose is around 1-2 mg, while a moderate-to-strong dose is 5-10 mg.

    Insufflated, it may take up to five minutes to feel the effects, despite the higher dose ranges involved (threshold: 3-5 mg; moderate: 8-15 mg). Effects tend to peak after 10-30 minutes and subside from around 30-45.[20]

    5-MeO-DMT oral doses for swallowing[21] are higher, with generally unreliable results. Other less common routes of administration include sublingual (under the tongue) and injection.[22]
    WHAT TO EXPECT

    Effects come on strong, often with a loss of physical coordination and control.
    Users experience bright colors, moving environments, or recursive patterns, and
    perhaps even “environmental orbism” at higher doses. However, visual effects are limited.
    Unlike DMT, 5-MeO-DMT isn’t known for its visionary properties. The experience is more often described as a “perspective shift” characterized by physical, emotional, and conceptual effects.

    One of the most common features of the 5-MeO-DMT experience is an enhancement of tactile awareness to the point of sensory overload. The body may also feel heavier. Intense emotions are typical, ranging from extreme fear to euphoria, and especially
    include anxiety or excitement during onset. It’s common to experience an overwhelming sense of oneness with the universe, or a sense of being outside of
    time and space while seeming to experience the totality of both. The concept of
    the ego as a
    separate entity is typically lost. Other effects include auditory hallucinations, time distortion, nausea, and memory loss.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From luckyrat@1:229/2 to All on Thursday, April 16, 2020 21:33:31
    From: allreadydun@gmail.com

    a shift is a shift

    can't stay stuck in second gear all your life.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: www.darkrealms.ca (1:229/2)
  • From slider@1:229/2 to All on Friday, April 17, 2020 10:54:06
    From: slider@atashram.com

    Effects come on strong, often with a loss of physical coordination and control. Users experience bright colors, moving environments, or
    recursive patterns, and perhaps even “environmental orbism” at higher doses. However, visual effects are limited. Unlike DMT, 5-MeO-DMT isn’t known for its visionary properties. The experience is more often
    described as a “perspective shift” characterized by physical, emotional, and conceptual effects.

    One of the most common features of the 5-MeO-DMT experience is an
    enhancement of tactile awareness to the point of sensory overload. The
    body may also feel heavier. Intense emotions are typical, ranging from extreme fear to euphoria, and especially include anxiety or excitement
    during onset. It’s common to experience an overwhelming sense of oneness with the universe, or a sense of being outside of time and space while seeming to experience the totality of both. The concept of the ego as a separate entity is typically lost. Other effects include auditory hallucinations, time distortion, nausea, and memory loss.

    ### - this is the problem with 'substance-induced' shifts in awareness, in
    that one typically has to suffer the side-effects of not quite hitting (or landing on) the exact x/y/z spot and only hitting/landing in an area
    adjacent to it, the resulting 'rush' of chaotic perceptions generally
    being overwhelming to the point of experiencing just about everything
    described above, it then taking an experienced connoisseur of such
    substances to 'pick-out' from all that any relevant/useful data...

    something i once tried to clearly demonstrate on here much to the hassling
    and naysaying of just about everyone who simply refused to even try it let alone discuss it? a simple enough + completely harmless experiment
    involving using a tiny amount of weed (or hash) in a very particular + carefully controlled manner in conjunction with an equally very small
    amount of tobacco that acts only as a brake...

    the end result of such tweaking being that of landing/ending-up at a very particular x,y,z coordinate that is self-explanatory + self-evident to
    anyone standing in that position in awareness... one in which the
    'distinction' between what the drug itself is doing is clearly separate
    from the resulting overall perceptual experience (iow: the perceptual advantage of standing/being in that place isn't, at that point, thus
    clouded by the effects of the drug itself and/or clearly stands apart from
    each other thus revealing the marked differences between them etc...)

    the very strange + utterly informative result being one of being/feeling utterly + undeniably stoned (heavily so!) while at the same time
    feeling/being utterly sober as never before and thus able to tell them
    apart + easily then handle the whole situation as the sober side dominates!

    thus to take dmt (or any other powerful hallucinogen like lsd) 'without'
    having access to any such 'brake' (as the tobacco affords in the case of
    weed for instance) is to only see/experience it all from the drug's
    distorted & distorting pov alone, and wherein only the occasional
    'glimpse' of what's really all behind it appears at random and in a too unsustainable manner to be informative/useful...

    the weed test mentioned is very simple but only works once per day
    immediately 'after' one has awoken from a good sleep, and before eating or drinking (or smoking) anything for breakfast:

    if it's weed you're using: then maybe only 2 or 3 very small pinches of it
    in total is required (a quarter of a gram at most! less if it's very
    strong weed) so you're basically only looking to pipe-smoke maybe 3 or 4
    tokes of it in total...

    15 to 20 minutes later you'll then be tripping mildly heh; sounds will reverberate, things will look slightly different, you'll feel quite high
    and a little trippy typical of nice weed... anyway enjoy that for a few minutes, heady though it is... and now take a few tokes on a plain
    cigarette (i much prefer to use a tobacco/weed joint here; a whole
    cigarette with only a light sprinkling of weed for flavour) about 3 or 4
    tokes of it in all, is plenty...

    whereon something rather strange and very intriguing occurs... i.e., there
    will be a sensation like that of going down in an elevator (slightly dizzy/falling-feeling iow) which lasts maybe all of 30 seconds before
    coming to a complete halt...

    one is, for example, undoubtedly completely straight & sober again at that point, and can clearly see where you've just been and have come back from
    in the most illuminating manner, the strangeness and giddiness have all
    gone away now and you are yourself again, completely so, and yet still
    utterly stoned! (hah)

    don't eat, or drink, or smoke anything more and it'll last for maybe 2 or
    3 hours before slowly wearing off, ample time to go have a good look
    around at a world & people normally taken so very much for granted that it
    all seems completely normal heh...

    that at this point one is very much an 'outside observer' and with all the perceptual tools available to anyone standing in that precise position/location... the whole thing is very stable!

    that one only has to try this say 3 or 4 times in all to understand
    something that's very difficult to describe in cogent/rational terms
    otherwise, things that are difficult to see behind because of the
    substance(s) involved which necessarily tint/colour the resulting
    experience with something of their own particular personality & flavour so
    to speak... but which is all negated/canceled-out when applied in the
    above manner & fashion to weed...

    the first time is a little disconcerting maybe so there is a strong
    temptation to quickly abort by eating/drinking/smoking etc in which case
    30 minutes later it's all gone, it's certainly a bit of a surprise heh,
    but the second time you're more prepared for it, by 3 or 4 times anyway
    you know all about it and yourself into the bargain and prolly wont bother
    with it again anyway, except for maybe only very occasionally when ya
    can't get 'yourself' out for some reason hehe ;)

    and because, in reality, there's no need to go so far 'out' as in where
    dmt or lsd boots ya right out too, when even only the 'slightest' change
    in awareness is far more than enough to experience quite profound
    perceptual changes and realisations...

    i mean, why throw oneself into a 6-mile deep ocean and then struggling to
    cope with that when standing only up to one's ankles in it is 'more' than plenty?

    good question huh ;)

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  • From LowRider44M@1:229/2 to luckyrat on Friday, April 17, 2020 05:46:53
    From: intraphase@gmail.com

    On Friday, April 17, 2020 at 12:33:32 AM UTC-4, luckyrat wrote:
    a shift is a shift

    can't stay stuck in second gear all your life.

    Yeah, big time.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: www.darkrealms.ca (1:229/2)
  • From LowRider44M@1:229/2 to slider on Friday, April 17, 2020 06:49:38
    From: intraphase@gmail.com

    On Friday, April 17, 2020 at 5:55:02 AM UTC-4, slider wrote:
    Effects come on strong, often with a loss of physical coordination and control. Users experience bright colors, moving environments, or recursive patterns, and perhaps even “environmental orbism” at higher doses. However, visual effects are limited. Unlike DMT, 5-MeO-DMT isn’t known for its visionary properties. The experience is more often described as a “perspective shift” characterized by physical,
    emotional,
    and conceptual effects.




    One of the most common features of the 5-MeO-DMT experience is an enhancement of tactile awareness to the point of sensory overload. The body may also feel heavier. Intense emotions are typical, ranging from extreme fear to euphoria, and especially include anxiety or excitement during onset. It’s common to experience an overwhelming sense of oneness

    with the universe, or a sense of being outside of time and space while seeming to experience the totality of both. The concept of the ego as a separate entity is typically lost. Other effects include auditory hallucinations, time distortion, nausea, and memory loss.

    ### - this is the problem with 'substance-induced' shifts in awareness, in that one typically has to suffer the side-effects of not quite hitting (or landing on) the exact x/y/z spot and only hitting/landing in an area adjacent to it, the resulting 'rush' of chaotic perceptions generally
    being overwhelming to the point of experiencing just about everything described above, it then taking an experienced connoisseur of such substances to 'pick-out' from all that any relevant/useful data...

    Drugs never got me there.
    Some times I got there despite the drugs.


    something i once tried to clearly demonstrate on here much to the hassling and naysaying of just about everyone who simply refused to even try it let alone discuss it? a simple enough + completely harmless experiment involving using a tiny amount of weed (or hash) in a very particular + carefully controlled manner in conjunction with an equally very small amount of tobacco that acts only as a brake...

    That was my protocol for 20 years.
    THC the engine, nicotine the transmission and brakes.

    From my recent study the developers of cannabis have settled on:

    80% Indica 20% Sativa, Hybrid, exhibiting 6% THC & 6% CBD

    The reason for the 6-6 ratio being that CBD acts as a prolonging
    catylist of the 80-20 relationship. The formula with these ratios
    is a medical cannabis called "Purple Urkle" https://www.leafly.com/strains/purple-urkle

    A very dreamy musical high, good for films and music video compilations.
    As you noted above easily moderated and modulated by small doses of nicotine.



    the end result of such tweaking being that of landing/ending-up at a very particular x,y,z coordinate that is self-explanatory + self-evident to anyone standing in that position in awareness... one in which the 'distinction' between what the drug itself is doing is clearly separate
    from the resulting overall perceptual experience (iow: the perceptual advantage of standing/being in that place isn't, at that point, thus clouded by the effects of the drug itself and/or clearly stands apart from each other thus revealing the marked differences between them etc...)


    That's where the kids strategies are at odds, contradictory, because
    if you find the right place and know the place by formula (Map) or by
    an equation (mnemonic words; mnemonic lines) then that place is accessible
    when the person-pilot decides all physical-intellectual-emotional rhythums
    are conducive to maximize or minimize a creative position, whether looking
    for a whole piece of artwork by maximizing or a final lost piece of a puzzle for a 99% completed artwork by minimizing to seek only the lost piece.

    I like the kids stuff, but age shall help him condense knowledge to wisdom,
    as a summary generation phase of consciousness exploration.



    the very strange + utterly informative result being one of being/feeling utterly + undeniably stoned (heavily so!) while at the same time feeling/being utterly sober as never before and thus able to tell them apart + easily then handle the whole situation as the sober side dominates!

    The ideal balance: calm, clear, activated yet satisfied.
    Ready to jump 10,000 miles or stand still observing an ant,
    all options open and available, momentum controllable to the
    finest degrees and coarsest degrees.



    thus to take dmt (or any other powerful hallucinogen like lsd) 'without' having access to any such 'brake' (as the tobacco affords in the case of weed for instance) is to only see/experience it all from the drug's distorted & distorting pov alone, and wherein only the occasional
    'glimpse' of what's really all behind it appears at random and in a too unsustainable manner to be informative/useful...

    Falling into a hole-well instead of using a rope ladder.


    the weed test mentioned is very simple but only works once per day immediately 'after' one has awoken from a good sleep, and before eating or drinking (or smoking) anything for breakfast:

    if it's weed you're using: then maybe only 2 or 3 very small pinches of it in total is required (a quarter of a gram at most! less if it's very
    strong weed) so you're basically only looking to pipe-smoke maybe 3 or 4 tokes of it in total...

    Exactly, three to six BB (airgun) sized pellets for 3-5 in and outs.
    Weed is much more powerful these days !!! Especially Sativas 2-3 BB max.


    15 to 20 minutes later you'll then be tripping mildly heh; sounds will reverberate, things will look slightly different, you'll feel quite high and a little trippy typical of nice weed... anyway enjoy that for a few minutes, heady though it is... and now take a few tokes on a plain cigarette (i much prefer to use a tobacco/weed joint here; a whole cigarette with only a light sprinkling of weed for flavour) about 3 or 4 tokes of it in all, is plenty...

    I also use tiny pieces of nicotine gum and small sips of tea.


    whereon something rather strange and very intriguing occurs... i.e., there will be a sensation like that of going down in an elevator (slightly dizzy/falling-feeling iow) which lasts maybe all of 30 seconds before coming to a complete halt...

    one is, for example, undoubtedly completely straight & sober again at that point, and can clearly see where you've just been and have come back from in the most illuminating manner, the strangeness and giddiness have all gone away now and you are yourself again, completely so, and yet still utterly stoned! (hah)

    Like going to a grocery store and not leaving the groceries behind.
    But actually loading them in the boot, and then hustling them inside
    once back home.


    don't eat, or drink, or smoke anything more and it'll last for maybe 2 or
    3 hours before slowly wearing off,

    Agreed.

    ample time to go have a good look
    around at a world & people normally taken so very much for granted that it all seems completely normal heh...

    that at this point one is very much an 'outside observer' and with all the perceptual tools available to anyone standing in that precise position/location... the whole thing is very stable!


    The gentle subtle converstions between the eternal and infinite
    regarding forms and styles of both materiality and consciousness.

    that one only has to try this say 3 or 4 times in all to understand something that's very difficult to describe in cogent/rational terms otherwise, things that are difficult to see behind because of the substance(s) involved which necessarily tint/colour the resulting experience with something of their own particular personality & flavour so to speak... but which is all negated/canceled-out when applied in the
    above manner & fashion to weed...

    Timelessness while observing
    Rhythms Balances & Momentums
    With
    Clarity Vitality & Integrity

    Allowing, what is to be what is, without filters or judgement.
    Absorbing that "is-ness" and letting it sink in where intuition
    knows it must wait as long as possible before making second hand
    portraits and lenses(artwork) of the many is-nesses.



    the first time is a little disconcerting maybe so there is a strong temptation to quickly abort by eating/drinking/smoking etc in which case
    30 minutes later it's all gone, it's certainly a bit of a surprise heh,
    but the second time you're more prepared for it, by 3 or 4 times anyway
    you know all about it and yourself into the bargain and prolly wont bother with it again anyway, except for maybe only very occasionally when ya
    can't get 'yourself' out for some reason hehe ;)

    It's like digging a proper well and installing a bucket -pulley.
    The water is always there.


    and because, in reality, there's no need to go so far 'out' as in where
    dmt or lsd boots ya right out too, when even only the 'slightest' change
    in awareness is far more than enough to experience quite profound perceptual changes and realisations...

    Going far out should be brought on by body and mind as tools, or as
    purest form of escape when fleeing overloads of consciousness.
    The brain has the drugs to produce the ultimate highs as a way of
    forcing consciousness to form a balanced mind for the default resting mode.

    Hallucinogens are for testing ones mental strength battling phantasmagoria. There's almost never a "harvest" of truths or tools involved unless the
    person blacks out and the great mystery intervenes by cleansing the explorer.


    i mean, why throw oneself into a 6-mile deep ocean and then struggling to cope with that when standing only up to one's ankles in it is 'more' than plenty?

    good question huh ;)

    That is "the" question.
    Where's the treasure and can it be raised, salvaged.

    Black Sea - 2014 Jude Law
    A rogue submarine captain pulls together a misfit crew to go after a sunken treasure rumored to be lost in the depths of the Black Sea. As greed and desperation take control onboard their claustrophobic vessel, the increasing uncertainty of the mission
    causes the men to turn on each other to fight for their own survival.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Sea_(film)

    It's available on Google for 3$
    Very cool ending.

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  • From luckyrat@1:229/2 to All on Friday, April 17, 2020 07:57:03
    From: allreadydun@gmail.com

    well now that we know we are all gods,
    no one is better than another.
    christ my cat is god too.
    i always knew my dog was a god.
    no doubt about that.
    stuck inside the Matrix with the infinity blues again.
    oh mama, can this really be the end?
    nope, ain't no end. There's no finish line sport.
    maybe a couple of trophy girls, ha ha.

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  • From luckyrat@1:229/2 to All on Friday, April 17, 2020 08:15:00
    From: allreadydun@gmail.com

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=735dXdC7i9A

    it's not important what i think of you now is it?

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  • From LowRider44M@1:229/2 to luckyrat on Friday, April 17, 2020 14:07:10
    From: intraphase@gmail.com

    On Friday, April 17, 2020 at 11:15:01 AM UTC-4, luckyrat wrote:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=735dXdC7i9A

    it's not important what i think of you now is it?


    I've played that a million times
    because the finger exercise is good.

    Watched a biography of Peter Green
    Never knew he wrote Black Magic Woman.
    His schizophrenia stabilized and he's
    recording again.

    News

    Has Peter Green been working on a new album? While representatives are keeping tight-lipped, reports have been circulating on the Internet. There have been strong rumors that the musician is finally returning to the recording studio working on a what
    might be a back-to-roots album.

    UPDATE 17/04/2020 : This story seems to be false. (read more)

    According to a source, rumors of Peter Green (from Fleetwood Mac, the Bluesbreakers) working in recording studio are true, with as many as eight songs having been put to tape. “It’s still in the early stages,” “He’s got security on the doors to
    ensure no-one hears a whisper,” a source said.

    World Tour To Follow New Album?

    Peter Green is rumoured to be planning a worldwide tour at the end of 2021. When contacted, a representative had no information on a new album, or any of the musician’s future plans. This isn’t the first time in recent memory reports have surfaced
    about Peter Green recording sessions. Fans will be anxiously awaiting...

    Do you think Peter Green will pick up right where he left off and deliver another excellent album? Have you heard any rumors about the new album? Let us know!!

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  • From slider@1:229/2 to All on Friday, April 17, 2020 21:55:29
    From: slider@atashram.com

    this reference is a little out of left field.
    but i was moved by this video i thought maybe
    others would be interested in viewing. This
    a little on the long side (2:31) minutes.
    But you won't be disappointed. Enjoy

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YE1yPCeF1Cc

    so i guess it's was true that i am god,
    you are god, we all are god. God's in
    3 piece suits. Fuck, the lucid dream was
    right on. And you'll like the part about
    death.

    ### - well ya wont like what am gonna say about this fella heh, but imho
    he's starts off on a wrong-un to begin with by asserting there's even a
    'god' in the first place to explain? only there isn't! there's only the 'concept' of god which people have learned to relate to in various +
    mostly dumb ways (dumb because intellect is not the measure of the
    irrational and so always ends up talking shit when it tries...)

    the rest is basically just a bunch of intellectual poppycock & twaddle/rationalisations designed to baffle people with science, and then
    here he is tryin' to convince other people he's right; one of these
    so-called self-help experts who apparently takes delight in convincing
    others that he knows better than them and so everyone should listen to
    him??

    take a look at the first of his 3056 (or whatever) videos for example:

    how to invest in yourself
    why life coaching works
    be different to be successful
    get coached
    inner game of career development
    how i lost 65 pounds in 6 months
    the number one reason why you're not succeeding
    (need i say more?)

    but he doesn't know fuck-all Chris or he certainly wouldn't be approaching
    it all from such an 'intellectual' angle to begin with?

    i.e., we don't KNOW any fucking thing! right there's yer's basic starting premise heh: we dunno shit! and that's something we 'can' be sure of!

    or rather: everything we 'think' we know is shit! anything 'intellectual'
    is shit and shouldn't ever be taken as being final! if you feel comforted
    by his video in any way then you've been mislead by the blind leading the blind, my instinctual urge being to scrub his filthy mouth out with soap
    if only to shut the fucker up (haha) coz he's not helping!

    the answer's very simple really: no intellect = no shit = an immediately
    better appreciation of the universe at large because we're not trying to
    put it in a box anymore in order to 'think' about it and then rationalise
    it; it's actually insane to even try to do so, except maybe as just an intellectual exercise :)

    "how i lost 65 pounds in 6 months"?? - fatties of the world unite! riiiiiiight....

    his next video in the video-factory pipeline: how i evolved my coaching
    course to gradually include every fucking topic under the sun (including
    god) so as to widen my audience and get more hits! (duh!)

    am sorry 'bout that me old china, but i hope ya know i wouldn't ever deliberately lie to ya...

    "God is a concept by which we measure our pain." --lennon ;)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCNkPpq1giU

    that if you feel fucked up/annoyed/distressed/uncertain-again by what have said/stated above, then you're actually far closer to 'Reality' than where 'that' plonker was taking you to ;)

    (just slider's 2-cents)

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  • From LowRider44M@1:229/2 to All on Friday, April 17, 2020 14:31:19
    From: intraphase@gmail.com


    or rather: everything we 'think' we know is shit! anything 'intellectual'
    is shit and shouldn't ever be taken as being final! if you feel comforted
    by his video in any way then you've been mislead by the blind leading the blind, my instinctual urge being to scrub his filthy mouth out with soap
    if only to shut the fucker up (haha) coz he's not helping!

    Don't hold back now! Tell us what you REALLY think!

    You missed he part about taking a DMT suppository
    and encountering infinity inside of infinity.

    God is a word with 8 billion definitions.



    "God is a concept by which we measure our pain." --lennon ;)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCNkPpq1giU


    There's a definition.

    I like 0-1-2 with the first dimension filled with "competing" gods.
    Even the god of the ten commandments acknowledges the existence of
    many gods. I am the lord thy God, thou shalt have no "false" gods before me" The first dimension is a very crowded place, even an apartment and a car
    cost 500 prayers per day. :-)

    That's why I synch 0-1-2 as Harmony Dissonance Silence.
    Dylan in that Murder Most foul, tune 1-2 as White Clown Black Singer.

    I do believe the first dimension got so toxic, it's manifestations
    stalked Jesus, as computational black holes, toxic exploration landscapes
    with poisonous prophecies (abstract gambits) and Jesus poured gasoline
    on all the old books and burned them. Hence the son of god or more
    accurately, first dimensional (0-1-2) plumber and repair technician.
    He flushed the pipes, unclogged the drains, and got the clean water pipes properly installed. Anybody trapped by religion can escape through Jesus,
    in that way he served as a Lucifer (thought cleanser) morning star.

    Lennon didn't believe in Jesus but he understood his need to rebel.

    Ballad of John & Yoko
    https://youtu.be/v-1OgNqBkVE

    That one above "Instant Karma" and "Strange Days" last forever.

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  • From luckyrat@1:229/2 to All on Friday, April 17, 2020 15:43:02
    From: allreadydun@gmail.com

    that if you feel fucked up/annoyed/distressed/uncertain-again by what have said/stated above, then you're actually far closer to 'Reality' than where 'that' plonker was taking you to ;)

    (just slider's 2-cents)

    so then let's hear about your direct experience
    with "God" then ? He told you his, now you tell
    us your experience? Whatcha got man?

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  • From slider@1:229/2 to All on Friday, April 17, 2020 23:47:58
    From: slider@atashram.com

    or rather: everything we 'think' we know is shit! anything
    'intellectual'
    is shit and shouldn't ever be taken as being final! if you feel
    comforted
    by his video in any way then you've been mislead by the blind leading
    the
    blind, my instinctual urge being to scrub his filthy mouth out with soap
    if only to shut the fucker up (haha) coz he's not helping!

    Don't hold back now! Tell us what you REALLY think!

    ### - ahahaha + smile, ya don't really want it all toned-down do ya?
    there's less room for error this way in my experience, plus can always argue/debate the details later :)




    You missed he part about taking a DMT suppository
    and encountering infinity inside of infinity.

    ### - covered all that in my long post re separating the effects of any
    drug clouding/tainting the experience etc...




    God is a word with 8 billion definitions.

    ### - definitions, definitions, all is definition?

    been trained all our lives to relate exclusively to definitions so we tend
    to look for them even where none exist... we expect them! and don't trust anything it they ain't forthcoming...

    we are definition addicts ;)




    "God is a concept by which we measure our pain." --lennon ;)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCNkPpq1giU


    There's a definition.

    ### - haha no there isn't! seriously, but what if there isn't though? ;)



    I like 0-1-2 with the first dimension filled with "competing" gods.
    Even the god of the ten commandments acknowledges the existence of
    many gods. I am the lord thy God, thou shalt have no "false" gods before
    me"
    The first dimension is a very crowded place, even an apartment and a car
    cost 500 prayers per day. :-)

    That's why I synch 0-1-2 as Harmony Dissonance Silence.
    Dylan in that Murder Most foul, tune 1-2 as White Clown Black Singer.

    I do believe the first dimension got so toxic, it's manifestations
    stalked Jesus, as computational black holes, toxic exploration landscapes with poisonous prophecies (abstract gambits) and Jesus poured gasoline
    on all the old books and burned them. Hence the son of god or more accurately, first dimensional (0-1-2) plumber and repair technician.
    He flushed the pipes, unclogged the drains, and got the clean water pipes properly installed. Anybody trapped by religion can escape through Jesus,
    in that way he served as a Lucifer (thought cleanser) morning star.

    ### - once ya start-in defining things 'belief' isn't far behind as one
    then expresses one's preference for one idea/concept over another... no definitions = no beliefs... so why not just accept things as they 'are'
    instead of trying to 'define' things and then relating to everything exclusively via such definitions? (the infinite squeezed into a box is no longer the infinite anyway?)

    our definitions comfort us is all, but they have no power to protect us whatsoever, they are mere illusions we ourselves created/fashioned...




    Lennon didn't believe in Jesus but he understood his need to rebel.

    ### - he merely makes-clear the difference between 'believing' something
    and just 'being', of letting-go of even 'attempting' to believe either one thing over another (an internal battle we don't need to become caught up
    in) inner peace being the result of ending that internal war



    Ballad of John & Yoko
    https://youtu.be/v-1OgNqBkVE

    That one above "Instant Karma" and "Strange Days" last forever.

    ### - give peace a chance? that's what people never do, they struggle internally and then with everyone else via their own internal struggle...

    as buddha basically said: wtf are ya's all doing ffs??

    ya's don't need to do it!

    stop that! ;)

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  • From slider@1:229/2 to All on Saturday, April 18, 2020 00:11:51
    From: slider@atashram.com

    that if you feel fucked up/annoyed/distressed/uncertain-again by what
    have
    said/stated above, then you're actually far closer to 'Reality' than
    where
    'that' plonker was taking you to ;)

    (just slider's 2-cents)

    so then let's hear about your direct experience
    with "God" then ? He told you his, now you tell
    us your experience? Whatcha got man?

    ### - forget such complex and convoluted concepts to begin with, and
    what's left over?

    just life + that of being alive :)

    that's Reality!

    ("i was the walrus but now i'm just john..." the dream is over etc...)

    the rest they's just making-up as they's going along ffs, and it evolves
    over time...

    if otoh ya wants to relate to something profound, then relate to the
    universe and yourself being alive in it!

    if THAT don't shrink ya down to size i dunno what will??

    people hide from that (bit-scary) Reality behind complex concepts & ideas
    is all; don't see it don't have to deal with it! now what's on channel 56 please?

    (there isn't anything ok? that's just a game we been playin' with
    ourselves all along! all the time deliberately avoiding what IS actually
    there! a big scary universe that makes nonsense of all our stupid little
    plans and ideas right? crushes them! but the universe itself is real
    enough, as are you!)

    having the guts to have nada is the hardest thing there is for such people!

    it's also the most honest ;)

    welcome then to the planet of the self-deceivers, planet-bs where any old
    crap goes down a treat haha...

    but we wont get fooled again will we?

    fuckin' right we will LOL, coz they love nothing better than a good
    concept on planet wallyworld, the more convoluted the better haha :)))

    (oh c'mon, don't be offended, am giving it to ya straight ain't i?)

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  • From luckyrat@1:229/2 to All on Friday, April 17, 2020 16:41:10
    From: allreadydun@gmail.com

    ### - forget such complex and convoluted concepts to begin with, and
    what's left over?

    nice weasel. you come up with something out of the left field
    and that will do? no no no. Nice try but you didn't answer
    the question.

    Come on out, if you wanna refute what the guy said, go ahead.
    I don't care. But you better direct towards him and not me.
    I don't give a shit what he wrote, i just posted it as something
    interesting to read. Don't get me tangled up in this horseshit.
    Give him a call maybe he will listen to you. lol!

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  • From slider@1:229/2 to All on Saturday, April 18, 2020 01:13:54
    From: slider@atashram.com

    - forget such complex and convoluted concepts to begin with, and
    what's left over?

    nice weasel. you come up with something out of the left field
    and that will do? no no no. Nice try but you didn't answer
    the question.

    ### - there 'is' no question to begin with lol, how long's a piece of
    string??

    but lol i bet he'd try and tell ya 'exactly' how long it is & why! ;)))





    Come on out, if you wanna refute what the guy said, go ahead.
    I don't care. But you better direct towards him and not me.
    I don't give a shit what he wrote, i just posted it as something
    interesting to read. Don't get me tangled up in this horseshit.
    Give him a call maybe he will listen to you. lol!

    ### - you really think he'd accept being told that all his self-help
    videos are designed only to help himself? not a chance! ya really think
    he'd walk away now from everything he's amassed via them?? forget it! he's buried sooo deep in shit by now he ain't ever comin' out! (i don't say
    it's impossible but he obviously needs a LOT of work! that ego of his just
    for starters lol)

    that 'whatever' ya tried to talk to him about now you'd only ever get a
    lecture back on how to lose 60 pounds in 65 days in one form or another?
    he's now a very popular lad on yt! he's already succeeded with his
    coaching goal! he's starting to believe his own bs! and that's what makes
    him appear convincing see? (if ya can fool yourself you can fool anyone
    right?)

    but in truth he's merely preying on the gullible and i don't like that?
    the world is full of people like that and it's not at all a better place because of them? rather the opposite actually...

    haha i'm on your side bud! pay no attention to wordy-bamboozlers!

    (if'n you want 'my' version of life, the universe & everything; you've
    already read it!)

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  • From LowRider44M@1:229/2 to All on Friday, April 17, 2020 18:03:30
    From: intraphase@gmail.com

    An Eternal Umpire Keeps Score
    https://youtu.be/p7vsIcnTOvU

    The Playing Field Is The Infinite https://ultimateclassicrock.com/john-lennon-ufo/

    Mr Eight knows John and Bob better than anyone.
    If Mr Eight installs transports he'll teach you
    to pilot - captain - navigate your portion of 2085.

    I've listened to the stooges 8-19-25 for six decades. https://youtu.be/9Xw6Ll9F38E?t=856
    This time around John worked 19-25-8
    This time around Bob worked 25-8-19
    Mr. Eight held the prime form 8-19-24 I
    I hold the second prime form 44-55-67 I Macey Brothers them selves I

    In this bit of doxxing the future is predicted.
    We do get John into the USA through Quebec Canada.
    The anchor for the bid play gambit sequence is this bit.


    A lot of times I speak to you
    it's John dialing you long distance
    through Mr. Eight. So I know where
    the walls are between the bridges.

    You Won't See Me
    https://youtu.be/_Xe0C2WB5Og

    "You Won't See Me"

    When I call you up
    Your line's engaged
    I have had enough
    So act your age
    We have lost the time
    That was so hard to find
    And I will lose my mind
    If you won't see me (You won't see me)
    You won't see me (You won't see me)

    I don't know why you
    Should want to hide
    But I can't get through
    My hands are tied
    I won't want to stay
    I don't have much to say
    But I can turn away
    And you won't see me (You won't see me)
    You won't see me (You won't see me)

    Time after time
    You refuse to even listen
    I wouldn't mind
    If I knew what I was missing

    Though the days are few
    They're filled with tears
    And since I lost you
    It feels like years
    Yes, it seems so long
    Girl, since you've been gone
    And I just can't go on
    If you won't see me (You won't see me)
    You won't see me (You won't see me)

    Time after time
    You refuse to even listen
    I wouldn't mind
    If I knew what I was missing

    Though the days are few
    They're filled with tears
    And since I lost you
    It feels like years
    Yes, it seems so long
    Girl, since you've been gone
    And I just can't go on
    If you won't see me (You won't see me)
    You won't see me (You won't see me)


    ( Girls are people who can't make it to The Zero )

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  • From LowRider44M@1:229/2 to All on Friday, April 17, 2020 18:46:51
    From: intraphase@gmail.com

    Selling Peace in Canada.
    https://youtu.be/bMRFalfeWh8


    They named the airport in Liverpool.
    The John Lennon International Airport.
    Eight builds ships, planes and trains.

    Hey Bulldog
    https://youtu.be/M4vbJQ-MrKo


    John "Didn't work Arthur"
    Eight "Didn't work John"
    John "He's talking to you I know"
    https://youtu.be/7kXCnKfdGOY?t=769

    I'm the guy 44-55-67
    https://youtu.be/cuuhsqA95iA
    Sleeping on the park bench on the secret paper.
    Monuments "Who Gave Who Sleep" I cover Eight's back.
    Zero is the stone they listen to with stethoscopes planted
    "There's UFO's over New York and I ain't to surprised" John

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  • From LowRider44M@1:229/2 to All on Friday, April 17, 2020 19:02:03
    From: intraphase@gmail.com

    Dylan - Cold Irons Bound
    https://youtu.be/9hO-83CIVKM

    "Cold Irons Bound"

    I'm beginnin' to hear voices and there's no one around
    I'm all used up and the fields have turned brown
    I went to church on Sunday as she passed by
    And my love for her has taken such a long time to die
    Well, I'm waist deep, waist deep in the mist
    It's almost like, almost like, I don't exist
    I'm twenty miles out of town, Cold Irons bound.

    Well, the walls of pride are high and wide
    Can't see over to the other side
    It's such a sad thing to see beauty decay
    It's sadder still to feel your heart turn away
    One look at you and I'm out of control
    Like the universe has swallowed me whole
    I'm twenty miles out of town and Cold Irons bound.

    There's too many people, too many to recall
    I thought some of 'em were friends of mine, I was wrong about 'em all
    Well, the road is rocky and the hillside mud
    Up over my head, nothing but clouds of blood
    I found my world, found my world in you
    But your love just hasn't proved true
    I'm twenty miles out of town and Cold Irons bound
    Twenty miles out of town, Cold Irons bound.

    Well the winds in Chicago have torn me to shreds
    Reality has always had too many heads
    Some things last longer than you think they will
    Some kind of things you can never kill
    Though it's you, and you only, I'm singin' about
    But you can't see in and it's hard looking out
    I'm twenty miles out of town and Cold Irons bound.

    Well, the fat's in the fire and the water's in the tank
    Well, the whiskey's in the jar and the money's in the bank
    I tried to love and protect you because I care
    I'm gonna remember forever the joy we've shared
    Looking at you and I'm on my bended knee
    You've no idea what you did to me
    I'm twenty miles out of town and Cold Irons bound
    Twenty miles out of town and Cold Irons bound.

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  • From LowRider44M@1:229/2 to All on Friday, April 17, 2020 18:57:28
    From: intraphase@gmail.com

    Even if GOD is just a word...
    People have chosen to stay in Wally World.
    I still know how to build sturdy ships - cosmos.
    Eight built Bob and John impeccable indestructible ships.
    I respect that.


    John Lennon’s Newport to Bermuda Sailing Voyage
    December 8, 2019

    John Lennon sails the Megan Jaye from Newport,
    Rhode Island to Hamilton, Bermuda. https://i0.wp.com/newportbuzz.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/2015/12/John-Lennon-Sailing-Newport-RI.png?w=582&ssl=1

    []

    On the morning of June 5, 1980 John Lennon, along with Captain Hank Halstad, Tyler Coneys and his cousins, Ellen and Kevin, left Newport for Bermuda on the Megan Jaye, a 43-foot Hinckley sloop.

    The sail from Newport, R.I., to Hamilton, Bermuda, was an epic voyage for Lennon. Not since Lennon had boarded Alan William’s mini-van and gone off to Hamburg had Lennon taken such an exciting leap into the unknown. He would be alone among strangers in
    a wild sea and was about to take the greatest risk, a risk that he had spent his whole life avoiding. John was about to fulfill one of his most cherished childhood fantasy, the great dream of going off to sea just as his father and grandfather had done
    before him. What happens next is inevitable, the ship ran into stormy seas and eventually a tempest. One after another the crew were incapacitated by sickness.

    During the storm the Lennon took the wheel. He was petrified at the shear force
    driving the ship into the waves with spray stinging his face and streaming down
    over his glasses. After 15 minutes of this powerful experience, Lennon began to
    feel his
    courage rising. As the sea rose before him, Lennon shouted back in defiance, singing shanties, sailor’s songs and old ballads he had heard in Liverpool.

    Lennon recounted in an interview with Playboy,

    “So there I was at the wheel with the wind and sea lashing out at me. At first I was terrified, but Captain Hank was at my side so I felt relatively safe because I knew he wouldn’t let me do anything stupid. After a while Captain Hank wasn’t
    feeling too well so he went to the cabin below.

    “Once I accepted the reality of the situation, something greater than me took
    over and all of a sudden I lost my fear. I actually began to enjoy the experience and I started to shout out old sea shanties in the face of the storm, screaming at the
    thundering sky.”

    The experience was life changing for John Lennon and after safely arriving in Bermuda on June 11th he inscribed in the logbook,

    “Dear Megan there is no place like nowhere.” He also left a note for the captain and drew a caricature self-portrait and a sketch of the Megan Jaye sailing into the sunset. “Hank love John Lennon.”

    The importance of the Megan Jaye experience cannot be emphasised too strongly after several years of lack of confidence and no recording this experience not only gave John his confidence back but also inspired him to write again the outcome being John’
    s final recording Double Fantasy.

    Six months after this epic journey, John Lennon was assassinated on December 8th on Manhattan’s Upper West Side.

    The Bermuda tapes.
    https://youtu.be/vyU_6tvhDXo
    The moment inspiration struck.

    Captain John.

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  • From LowRider44M@1:229/2 to All on Friday, April 17, 2020 19:41:31
    From: intraphase@gmail.com

    The Dirty Mac - Yer Blues
    https://youtu.be/JeFwaWFTGYU

    Yes I'm lonely wanna die
    Yes I'm lonely wanna die
    If I ain't dead already
    Ooh girl you know the reason why

    In the morning wanna die
    In the evening wanna die
    If I ain't dead already
    Ooh girl you know the reason why

    My mother was of the sky
    My father was of the earth
    But I am of the universe
    And you know what it's worth
    I'm lonely wanna die
    If I ain't dead already
    Ooh girl you know the reason why

    The eagle picks my eye
    The worm he licks my bone
    I feel so suicidal
    Just like Dylan's Mr. Jones
    Lonely wanna die
    If I ain't dead already
    Ooh girl you know the reason why

    Black cloud crossed my mind
    Blue mist round my soul
    Feel so suicidal
    Even hate my rock 'n' roll
    Wanna die yeah wanna die
    If I ain't dead already
    Ooh girl you know the reason why


    []

    The Jesus story took four lines to complete.
    Me Eight John and Bob. Mr Eights version won.
    "The first shall be last and the last shall be first"
    Point of the mission perspective to recover Moses-Hendrix.

    []

    The Game of Creation of Consciousness.

    "Highway Chile"
    https://vimeo.com/314999248

    Yeah, his guitar slung across his back
    His dusty boots is his cadillac
    Flamin' hair just a blowin' in the wind
    Ain't seen a bed in so long it's a sin
    He left home when he was seventeen
    The rest of the world he had longed to see
    But everybody knows the boss (Mr. Eight)
    A rolling stone who gathers no moss

    But you'd probably call him a tramp
    But it goes a little deeper than that
    He's a highway chile, yeah

    Now some people say he had a girl back home
    Who messed around and did him pretty wrong
    They tell me it kinda hurt him bad
    Kinda made him feel pretty sad
    I couldn't say what went through his mind
    Anyway, he left the world behind
    But everybody knows the same old story,
    In love and war you can't lose in glory

    Now you'd probably call him a tramp
    But I know it goes a little deeper than that
    He's a highway chile

    Walk on brother, yeah
    One more brother

    His old guitar slung across his back
    His dusty boots is his cadillac
    Flamin' hair just a blowin' in the wind
    Ain't seen a bed in so long it's a sin

    Now you may call him a tramp
    But I know it goes a little deeper than that
    He's a highway chile

    Walk on brother
    Don't let no one stop you
    Highway chile
    Yeah yeah yeah
    Highway chile
    Go on down the highway
    Highway chile
    Yeah yeah yeah
    Highway chile



    []

    ..?
    Go
    Air Craft Gambit?
    72 hour window OK
    Fine AS Just Right B.
    Acceptable Little B.
    He was sick with Wuhan
    Mercy Protects Justice
    Alias that other gambit
    Agreed as Cobra Machlight
    Out and thanks much 60
    Your Welcome
    .. [] .
    [][] * [][]
    ...
    [][][-][][]

    Half Stop
    Full Stop
    Half Close
    Full Close
    Render Complete
    Protected Western States - Online

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  • From slider@1:229/2 to All on Saturday, April 18, 2020 11:45:52
    From: slider@atashram.com

    Even if GOD is just a word...
    People have chosen to stay in Wally World.

    ### - them's fighting words heh + they haven't 'chosen' anything! were
    never even given a choice!

    by dint of being 'born' in a prison they don't know anything different...

    i.e., give 'em the choice and see if they 'still' wanna stay huh ;)




    I still know how to build sturdy ships - cosmos.
    Eight built Bob and John impeccable indestructible ships.
    I respect that.

    ### - lol how the fuck am i supposed to respond to 'this' type of crap?

    you speak for the cosmos now? you say it so that makes it... true??

    it's bs :)




    The importance of the Megan Jaye experience cannot be emphasised too
    strongly after several years of lack of confidence and no recording this experience not only gave John his confidence back but also inspired him
    to write again the outcome being John’s final recording Double Fantasy.

    Six months after this epic journey, John Lennon was assassinated on
    December 8th on Manhattan’s Upper West Side.

    ### - just can't let this lennon/dylan thing go can ya heh; it must be a
    real bug up your ass! :D

    plus so far you haven't demonstrated 'anything' whatsoever that backs-up
    your completely spurious claims there was ever summat wrong with lennon
    other than he defied the US and got murdered for it that is, or that he
    was in fact in any way different from any of the things i've said about
    him!

    any fool can sling mud, but just why you feel the 'need' to bad-mouth
    lennon at every opportunity seems, well, utterly insane really?

    you're the only one on the planet currently doing so anyway!

    everyone else loved the fucker to bits lol! :)

    (don't you realise yet what a saint 'actually' is?)

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: www.darkrealms.ca (1:229/2)
  • From slider@1:229/2 to All on Saturday, April 18, 2020 11:56:42
    From: slider@atashram.com

    Black cloud crossed my mind
    Blue mist round my soul
    Feel so suicidal
    Even hate my rock 'n' roll
    Wanna die yeah wanna die
    If I ain't dead already
    Ooh girl you know the reason why

    ### - very dark/black thoughts; i know you're suicidal Art, but hang
    around a bit longer mate, things might change for the better, ya never
    know! :)

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: www.darkrealms.ca (1:229/2)
  • From luckyrat@1:229/2 to All on Saturday, April 18, 2020 07:47:19
    From: allreadydun@gmail.com

    and now the extended weasel version starts to play:

    ### - there 'is' no question to begin with lol, how long's a piece of string??

    but lol i bet he'd try and tell ya 'exactly' how long it is & why! ;)))

    and then assorted mumbo jumbo rattling off in space



    ### - you really think he'd accept being told that all his self-help
    videos are designed only to help himself? not a chance! ya really think
    he'd walk away now from everything he's amassed via them?? forget it! he's buried sooo deep in shit by now he ain't ever comin' out! (i don't say
    it's impossible but he obviously needs a LOT of work! that ego of his just for starters lol)

    that 'whatever' ya tried to talk to him about now you'd only ever get a lecture back on how to lose 60 pounds in 65 days in one form or another?
    he's now a very popular lad on yt! he's already succeeded with his
    coaching goal! he's starting to believe his own bs! and that's what makes
    him appear convincing see? (if ya can fool yourself you can fool anyone right?)

    but in truth he's merely preying on the gullible and i don't like that?
    the world is full of people like that and it's not at all a better place because of them? rather the opposite actually...

    haha i'm on your side bud! pay no attention to wordy-bamboozlers!

    (if'n you want 'my' version of life, the universe & everything; you've already read it!)

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: www.darkrealms.ca (1:229/2)
  • From LowRider44M@1:229/2 to slider on Saturday, April 18, 2020 09:03:09
    From: intraphase@gmail.com

    On Saturday, April 18, 2020 at 6:46:48 AM UTC-4, slider wrote:
    Even if GOD is just a word...
    People have chosen to stay in Wally World.

    ### - them's fighting words heh + they haven't 'chosen' anything! were never even given a choice!

    by dint of being 'born' in a prison they don't know anything different...

    i.e., give 'em the choice and see if they 'still' wanna stay huh ;)




    I still know how to build sturdy ships - cosmos.
    Eight built Bob and John impeccable indestructible ships.
    I respect that.

    ### - lol how the fuck am i supposed to respond to 'this' type of crap?

    you speak for the cosmos now? you say it so that makes it... true??

    Am I stepping on your territory?

    I elaborating on your theme.
    The perceive becomes the object.
    On the other hand, my ships are very expensive.
    Meet me at the grassy knoll for a target shooting contest.
    Then you'll understand "What is is what is... until it isn't."


    it's bs :)



    Dare me to send you a ship. I need your consent. You know how this works.

    Say "Send me a sample ship" three times.
    Say "I wave the 72 hour reconsideration period" one time
    Say "Send me a sample ship" one more time and the deal is sealed.

    Call my bluff Slider. You won't because it took you fifteen
    years to admit you needed my surgical skills to remove that "Two More"
    Sin Tax Magic.



    The importance of the Megan Jaye experience cannot be emphasised too strongly after several years of lack of confidence and no recording this experience not only gave John his confidence back but also inspired him to write again the outcome being John’s final recording Double Fantasy.

    Six months after this epic journey, John Lennon was assassinated on December 8th on Manhattan’s Upper West Side.

    ### - just can't let this lennon/dylan thing go can ya heh; it must be a real bug up your ass! :D

    John's got you like a love lorn fan girl. You bought in.

    I've defeat Mr. Eight, Dylan and Lennon an infinite number of times.

    Eight asked me to write this for you knowing you would employ
    the bug up your ass phraseology.

    []

    The Three Jesus Gambit

    War Jesus aka Dylan
    Peace Jesus aka Lennon
    Truth Jesus aka Mr. Eight

    It's like the three shooters on the grassy knoll.
    Always, truth Jesus uses war Jesus and peace Jesus to get his way.

    The USA is the only THOU SHALT nation.
    Thou shalt always honor THE BILL OF RIGHTS.
    The rest of the world is the Thou shalt not... (knots)
    In America periodic revolution is expected of a fully armed population.

    https://youtu.be/VxpXiXnmK88?t=488
    America is the crown of evolution and dominant because we are willing
    to kill tyranny in every form and manifestation to be and do freedoms business. https://youtu.be/zf-GOHas4Sc

    Example:

    A guy believes that rainbows are sacred and produce a sacred Unicorn
    once every five hundred years. This guy wants to find the unicorn and
    ride it through the forest naked to a private place so the Unicorn
    can penetrate him in a sacred act of surrendur aka Sodomy as Communion.

    THAT'S AMERICA... it's why the UK lost its empire. Freedom aka The Pilgrims 1620.

    Another guy believes sodomites are using the holy rainbow of plagues,
    floods and locust, to sexually molest mutant horses to piss off the diety

    In America it's OK to be crazy. As long as you don't tell others NOT TO BE CRAZY.
    So as long as both guys don't start shooting

    Freedom, the greatest game ever divised.

    Amendment I

    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition
    the Government for a
    redress of grievances.

    Amendment II

    A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

    Amendment III

    No Soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the Owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law.

    Amendment IV

    The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and
    no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and
    particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

    Amendment V

    No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public
    danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in
    jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without
    due process of
    law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

    Amendment VI

    In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and
    public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to
    be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence.

    Amendment VII

    In Suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall exceed twenty dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and no fact tried by a jury, shall be otherwise re-examined in any Court of the United States, than according to the rules
    of the common law.

    Amendment VIII

    Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.

    Amendment IX

    The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

    Amendment X

    The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.




    plus so far you haven't demonstrated 'anything' whatsoever that backs-up your completely spurious claims there was ever summat wrong with lennon other than he defied the US and got murdered for it that is, or that he
    was in fact in any way different from any of the things i've said about him!

    You don't understand The Game.
    You can't claim to be a referee/umpire until you understand the rules of play. Like I said there were three fake Jesus' and one real one who was evacuated
    by the players using that body. "My god why hast thou forsaken me."
    Was Mark David Chapman really Mark David Chapman? Or ( Sum Body ) else.
    Peace Jesus aka John, lost that round of "The Game"
    War Jesus aka Dylan and Truth Jesus aka Mr. Eight outgunned John 2 To 1.



    any fool can sling mud, but just why you feel the 'need' to bad-mouth lennon at every opportunity seems, well, utterly insane really?

    I bad moth Dylan and Mr. Eight just as much.
    But your one of Johnny's girls so you feel butthurt
    when I suggest you get his dick out of your ass.

    I mock Dylan and Eight mercilessly, and John too.
    Your theory of "What is is what is" is the conflict.
    Me, Dylan and Mr. Eight built a monument to John in Rendalsham Forest.
    We honored him as a player.

    http://www.therendleshamforestincident.com/


    you're the only one on the planet currently doing so anyway!

    A lot of people considered Bob in many negative ways
    A lot of people considered John in many negative ways
    A lot of people considered Mr. Eight in many negative ways

    Does that matter. I see John as A Player, same as Nelson.
    They are children who live in Mr. Eight's fleet of ships.
    They deploy according to the bid-play-gambit structures they choose.
    ATM produces the catalogues of options and sorts them accordin to
    the players requests. Once a sequence is selected the 4x consent
    rule is applied, after insurance policies are drawn up to insure
    continuity of consciousness.

    I AM The Middle Way.


    everyone else loved the fucker to bits lol! :)

    (don't you realise yet what a saint 'actually' is?)

    A man crush?
    Neither Bob nor John would not give you a bowl of soup or crust of bread.
    At least Mr. Eight gave you a Brain Two More.
    If you want to see through Bob and John ask for a ship.
    Your allowed to return it unconditionally at any time no questions asked.

    Eight wrote a huge amount of shit he asked me to alias.
    I aliased it as Cobra Lightmach. I censored him that is my role - umpire.
    Twice I have entered your private domain, arrested him, and restored
    your continuity to it's original condition.

    Pub Dream
    Charlie Guard Dream

    Point of Exercise.
    You already have one ship.
    I am offering you a second ship
    and extensive insurance policies
    to study The Game of Consciousness.


    "But when you become two, what will you do?"
    You notice I bang on Dave's ship in the forest.

    11. Jesus said, "This heaven will pass away, and the one above
    it will pass away.
    The dead are not alive, and the living will not die. During the
    days when you ate what is dead, you made it come alive. When you
    are in the light, what will you do? On the day when you were
    one, you became two. "But when you become two, what will you do?"

    []

    You've aggressed on me twice (Sporting - Jostled) I haven't retaliated.
    Two minute mistakes in twenty-two years of playing the word game is
    better than 99.99% A mistake every eleven years. So I offer you a ship.

    Aggression
    Aggression is overt or covert, often harmful, social interaction with the intention of inflicting damage or other unpleasantness upon another individual.
    It may occur either reactively or without provocation. In humans, aggression can be caused by
    various triggers, from frustration due to blocked goals to feeling disrespected.

    A polite warning. Mr Eight is a content engine. He like John was completely human for a while 1959-1967 the 75% then 50% then 25% exiting the equation called universe of cosmos on 02-04-2004 at 3:15 AM EST eastern seaboard USA.

    He is now back in his fleet as is John. His content engines remain [] *** []. Therefore I censor Eight to remain impartial to Bob, John and Eight.

    If you want the censored content I shall post it as requested.
    Like Bob and John he can be a vicious little angry bitch at times.

    It's all good Brian.
    There are no debts between us.
    So if you want a ship privately write the sequence.
    "No Debts" means I am the umpire and control the play
    are and assets outside the circle. There are millions of players.
    Novice, Amateur, Semi-Pro, and full time Pros and "Old Timers" Pro.
    Maybe all this already happened... :-)


    The Verve - Lucky Man
    https://youtu.be/MH6TJU0qWoY

    Hendrix - Watchtower
    https://youtu.be/qmGFFJtkDXA

    When asked about that version of Watchtower,
    Dylan said, "He owns that now, it's his song."
    Truth is Truth, Jimmy was from a earlier version of "The Game."

    12. The disciples said to Jesus, "We know that you are going to
    leave us. Who will be our leader?"
    Jesus said to them, "No matter where you are you are to go to
    James the Just, for whose sake heaven and earth came into
    being."

    No one is ever left behind.
    The continuity of the totality prevents it.

    Dylan - It's Alright
    https://youtu.be/mYajHZ4QUVM


    Quadraphenia :-0
    The Who Doctor Jimmy
    https://youtu.be/HYjgWTctQR0



    Lotta stuff going on and on and on and on.
    If you want the censored content I shall post it as requested.
    He throws a nutter fifty million times per day, don't take it personal.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From LowRider44M@1:229/2 to slider on Saturday, April 18, 2020 09:50:22
    From: intraphase@gmail.com

    On Saturday, April 18, 2020 at 6:57:38 AM UTC-4, slider wrote:
    Black cloud crossed my mind
    Blue mist round my soul
    Feel so suicidal
    Even hate my rock 'n' roll
    Wanna die yeah wanna die
    If I ain't dead already
    Ooh girl you know the reason why

    ### - very dark/black thoughts; i know you're suicidal Art, but hang
    around a bit longer mate, things might change for the better, ya never
    know! :)

    The day you were born was the day you died.
    You can't face that this world is for the dead.

    I love that song.
    Have played it many times.
    I am not Mr. Eight, I am no body.
    I arrive on 04-07-2048 and stay for three minutes.
    Living in an ant farm is not my idea of sensible existence.

    You remind me of Liam when John's humping his leg.

    https://youtu.be/pHKO-knMtQg

    Are you a player or one of John's chip on the table.
    I love it when I get you into hero worship mood.
    It all started when you wanted to scrub somebodies mouth out with soap.

    John defeated you and Liam fair and square. He is you now. GET IT. :-0

    Lennon - Mind Games
    https://youtu.be/bVYXWVs0Prc

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From slider@1:229/2 to All on Saturday, April 18, 2020 17:59:26
    From: slider@atashram.com

    On Sat, 18 Apr 2020 17:50:22 +0100, LowRider44M <intraphase@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Saturday, April 18, 2020 at 6:57:38 AM UTC-4, slider wrote:
    Black cloud crossed my mind
    Blue mist round my soul
    Feel so suicidal
    Even hate my rock 'n' roll
    Wanna die yeah wanna die
    If I ain't dead already
    Ooh girl you know the reason why

    ### - very dark/black thoughts; i know you're suicidal Art, but hang
    around a bit longer mate, things might change for the better, ya never
    know! :)

    The day you were born was the day you died.
    You can't face that this world is for the dead.

    I love that song.
    Have played it many times.
    I am not Mr. Eight, I am no body.
    I arrive on 04-07-2048 and stay for three minutes.
    Living in an ant farm is not my idea of sensible existence.

    You remind me of Liam when John's humping his leg.

    https://youtu.be/pHKO-knMtQg

    Are you a player or one of John's chip on the table.
    I love it when I get you into hero worship mood.
    It all started when you wanted to scrub somebodies mouth out with soap.

    John defeated you and Liam fair and square. He is you now. GET IT. :-0

    Lennon - Mind Games
    https://youtu.be/bVYXWVs0Prc

    ### - you're an idiot lol :)))

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From LowRider44M@1:229/2 to All on Saturday, April 18, 2020 10:02:51
    From: intraphase@gmail.com


    Lennon - Mind Games
    https://youtu.be/bVYXWVs0Prc

    ### - you're an idiot lol :)))

    It's quarantine entertainment.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: www.darkrealms.ca (1:229/2)
  • From LowRider44M@1:229/2 to All on Saturday, April 18, 2020 10:12:22
    From: intraphase@gmail.com

    On Saturday, April 18, 2020 at 1:02:52 PM UTC-4, LowRider44M wrote:

    Lennon - Mind Games
    https://youtu.be/bVYXWVs0Prc

    ### - you're an idiot lol :)))

    It's quarantine entertainment.

    It's a great title for a thread:

    Face masks may be 'new normal' in post-virus life as U.S. prepares gradual reopening

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: www.darkrealms.ca (1:229/2)
  • From slider@1:229/2 to All on Saturday, April 18, 2020 18:21:16
    From: slider@anashram.com

    ### - there's really no point to all this matie, have tried & tried with
    you till am blue in the puss and you wont/can't even meet me halfway?

    you say " no debts between us" only that's not quite correct is it? and as
    such i 'have' tried to clear the air between us by taking things back to
    where it all really began (it actually began before that but through long exchanges we'd achieved a kinda stalemate/balance not to fuck with each
    other?) your 'resentment' of me stemming from that later time and via ee &
    rbb, whom you mistakenly supported in the worst possible way and which
    wasn't their fault that you didn't read the whole situation correctly! to
    side with them was 'your' error! i have thus tried to genuinely forgive
    you + clear the air but all to no avail, you're lost in the past (i didn't actually have to do fuck all, wasn't obliged to i mean, but did still
    actually try!)

    but ya can't let go of your error nor your resentment, and thus it keeps popping out on occasion in the form of little digs and provocations, and
    which i usually just ignore, and because who can even understand most the 'crap' you come-off with a lot of the time anyway??

    i have never actually asked you for... anything!

    and i don't want anything now either, no ships bs (what a crock!) nada,
    not even to debate with you anymore because you're being almost completely disingenuous anyway? (i can always smell disingenuousness-ness a mile away
    lol, so have never been taken in by your bs all along...)

    lol do i call you bob's bitch? the question being why you even 'need' to
    say crap like that?? (such resentment that it overflows in such a graphic manner lol)

    but in reality it's mere deflection and mirrors! bs iow! insincerity! lies
    & illusions! exactly the same bs rbb was involved in! (c'mon tell the
    truth; you bought into that chain letter didn'tcha eh? yeah ya did...)

    and this coming from someone asserting "Truth, Truth and TRUTH!" like they actually mean it??

    so hypocrisy too!

    you're basically no better that dumb fuck in the video? (no wonder you
    liked him lol)

    so just forget it pal, we done here now, and you're only ticking-over on 3 cylinders anyway + likely to blow a gasket any day now! (stored 120 days provisions ffs?? talk about being insecure! LOL)

    i gave ya a chance, a 'good' chance man! damn i'd prolly even give jack
    the fuckin' ripper 'a-chance', maybe even a second one under tighter conditions, but defo not a 3rd?

    i dunno 'who' you are and could actually care less, plus at my age no
    longer have the energy to spare to chase ya over hills & fences while you
    play peep-bo... bollocks to that, it's bs!

    passing advice, being to ask yourself just what 'type' of person 'attacks' things that represent the middle way of things huh? and i think you'll eventually realise that they're exactly the same idiots that were directly responsible for nailing poor old jc to the cross is that type; they'd
    bought the front row seats on calvery to see it and cheer his passing hah!

    mainly because they were so heavily invested in the left & right of things
    that anything like jc represented a direct threat to their, erm, 'business interests' heh...

    as for the rest of your out & out bs & flim-flam diversionary nonsense,
    you can stick it where the sun don't shine mate!

    will 'never' shine!

    ever. :)

    (Ps. no need to reply btw unless ya really feel ya have to; coz i wont be reading it, or any of your cracked-pot bs ever again...)

    killfiled! and....

    Done.







    Even if GOD is just a word...
    People have chosen to stay in Wally World.

    ### - them's fighting words heh + they haven't 'chosen' anything! were
    never even given a choice!

    by dint of being 'born' in a prison they don't know anything
    different...

    i.e., give 'em the choice and see if they 'still' wanna stay huh ;)




    I still know how to build sturdy ships - cosmos.
    Eight built Bob and John impeccable indestructible ships.
    I respect that.

    ### - lol how the fuck am i supposed to respond to 'this' type of crap?

    you speak for the cosmos now? you say it so that makes it... true??

    Am I stepping on your territory?

    I elaborating on your theme.
    The perceive becomes the object.
    On the other hand, my ships are very expensive.
    Meet me at the grassy knoll for a target shooting contest.
    Then you'll understand "What is is what is... until it isn't."


    it's bs :)



    Dare me to send you a ship. I need your consent. You know how this works.

    Say "Send me a sample ship" three times.
    Say "I wave the 72 hour reconsideration period" one time
    Say "Send me a sample ship" one more time and the deal is sealed.

    Call my bluff Slider. You won't because it took you fifteen
    years to admit you needed my surgical skills to remove that "Two More"
    Sin Tax Magic.



    The importance of the Megan Jaye experience cannot be emphasised too
    strongly after several years of lack of confidence and no recording
    this
    experience not only gave John his confidence back but also inspired
    him
    to write again the outcome being John’s final recording Double
    Fantasy.

    Six months after this epic journey, John Lennon was assassinated on
    December 8th on Manhattan’s Upper West Side.

    ### - just can't let this lennon/dylan thing go can ya heh; it must be a
    real bug up your ass! :D

    John's got you like a love lorn fan girl. You bought in.

    I've defeat Mr. Eight, Dylan and Lennon an infinite number of times.

    Eight asked me to write this for you knowing you would employ
    the bug up your ass phraseology.

    []

    The Three Jesus Gambit

    War Jesus aka Dylan
    Peace Jesus aka Lennon
    Truth Jesus aka Mr. Eight

    It's like the three shooters on the grassy knoll.
    Always, truth Jesus uses war Jesus and peace Jesus to get his way.

    The USA is the only THOU SHALT nation.
    Thou shalt always honor THE BILL OF RIGHTS.
    The rest of the world is the Thou shalt not... (knots)
    In America periodic revolution is expected of a fully armed population.

    https://youtu.be/VxpXiXnmK88?t=488
    America is the crown of evolution and dominant because we are willing
    to kill tyranny in every form and manifestation to be and do freedoms business.
    https://youtu.be/zf-GOHas4Sc

    Example:

    A guy believes that rainbows are sacred and produce a sacred Unicorn
    once every five hundred years. This guy wants to find the unicorn and
    ride it through the forest naked to a private place so the Unicorn
    can penetrate him in a sacred act of surrendur aka Sodomy as Communion.

    THAT'S AMERICA... it's why the UK lost its empire. Freedom aka The
    Pilgrims 1620.

    Another guy believes sodomites are using the holy rainbow of plagues,
    floods and locust, to sexually molest mutant horses to piss off the diety

    In America it's OK to be crazy. As long as you don't tell others NOT TO
    BE CRAZY.
    So as long as both guys don't start shooting

    Freedom, the greatest game ever divised.

    Amendment I

    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of
    speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to
    assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

    Amendment II

    A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free
    State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be
    infringed.

    Amendment III

    No Soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without
    the consent of the Owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law.

    Amendment IV

    The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers,
    and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause,
    supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place
    to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

    Amendment V

    No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous
    crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in
    cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in
    actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or
    limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness
    against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without
    due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

    Amendment VI

    In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a
    speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have
    been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against
    him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor,
    and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence.

    Amendment VII

    In Suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall exceed
    twenty dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and no
    fact tried by a jury, shall be otherwise re-examined in any Court of the United States, than according to the rules of the common law.

    Amendment VIII

    Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor
    cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.

    Amendment IX

    The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

    Amendment X

    The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively,
    or to the people.




    plus so far you haven't demonstrated 'anything' whatsoever that backs-up
    your completely spurious claims there was ever summat wrong with lennon
    other than he defied the US and got murdered for it that is, or that he
    was in fact in any way different from any of the things i've said about
    him!

    You don't understand The Game.
    You can't claim to be a referee/umpire until you understand the rules of play.
    Like I said there were three fake Jesus' and one real one who was
    evacuated
    by the players using that body. "My god why hast thou forsaken me."
    Was Mark David Chapman really Mark David Chapman? Or ( Sum Body ) else.
    Peace Jesus aka John, lost that round of "The Game"
    War Jesus aka Dylan and Truth Jesus aka Mr. Eight outgunned John 2 To 1.



    any fool can sling mud, but just why you feel the 'need' to bad-mouth
    lennon at every opportunity seems, well, utterly insane really?

    I bad moth Dylan and Mr. Eight just as much.
    But your one of Johnny's girls so you feel butthurt
    when I suggest you get his dick out of your ass.

    I mock Dylan and Eight mercilessly, and John too.
    Your theory of "What is is what is" is the conflict.
    Me, Dylan and Mr. Eight built a monument to John in Rendalsham Forest.
    We honored him as a player.

    http://www.therendleshamforestincident.com/


    you're the only one on the planet currently doing so anyway!

    A lot of people considered Bob in many negative ways
    A lot of people considered John in many negative ways
    A lot of people considered Mr. Eight in many negative ways

    Does that matter. I see John as A Player, same as Nelson.
    They are children who live in Mr. Eight's fleet of ships.
    They deploy according to the bid-play-gambit structures they choose.
    ATM produces the catalogues of options and sorts them accordin to
    the players requests. Once a sequence is selected the 4x consent
    rule is applied, after insurance policies are drawn up to insure
    continuity of consciousness.

    I AM The Middle Way.


    everyone else loved the fucker to bits lol! :)

    (don't you realise yet what a saint 'actually' is?)

    A man crush?
    Neither Bob nor John would not give you a bowl of soup or crust of bread.
    At least Mr. Eight gave you a Brain Two More.
    If you want to see through Bob and John ask for a ship.
    Your allowed to return it unconditionally at any time no questions asked.

    Eight wrote a huge amount of shit he asked me to alias.
    I aliased it as Cobra Lightmach. I censored him that is my role - umpire. Twice I have entered your private domain, arrested him, and restored
    your continuity to it's original condition.

    Pub Dream
    Charlie Guard Dream

    Point of Exercise.
    You already have one ship.
    I am offering you a second ship
    and extensive insurance policies
    to study The Game of Consciousness.


    "But when you become two, what will you do?"
    You notice I bang on Dave's ship in the forest.

    11. Jesus said, "This heaven will pass away, and the one above
    it will pass away.
    The dead are not alive, and the living will not die. During the
    days when you ate what is dead, you made it come alive. When you
    are in the light, what will you do? On the day when you were
    one, you became two. "But when you become two, what will you do?"

    []

    You've aggressed on me twice (Sporting - Jostled) I haven't retaliated.
    Two minute mistakes in twenty-two years of playing the word game is
    better than 99.99% A mistake every eleven years. So I offer you a ship.

    Aggression
    Aggression is overt or covert, often harmful, social interaction with
    the intention of inflicting damage or other unpleasantness upon another individual. It may occur either reactively or without provocation. In
    humans, aggression can be caused by various triggers, from frustration
    due to blocked goals to feeling disrespected.

    A polite warning. Mr Eight is a content engine. He like John was
    completely human for a while 1959-1967 the 75% then 50% then 25% exiting
    the equation
    called universe of cosmos on 02-04-2004 at 3:15 AM EST eastern seaboard
    USA.

    He is now back in his fleet as is John. His content engines remain []
    *** [].
    Therefore I censor Eight to remain impartial to Bob, John and Eight.

    If you want the censored content I shall post it as requested.
    Like Bob and John he can be a vicious little angry bitch at times.

    It's all good Brian.
    There are no debts between us.
    So if you want a ship privately write the sequence.
    "No Debts" means I am the umpire and control the play
    are and assets outside the circle. There are millions of players.
    Novice, Amateur, Semi-Pro, and full time Pros and "Old Timers" Pro.
    Maybe all this already happened... :-)


    The Verve - Lucky Man
    https://youtu.be/MH6TJU0qWoY

    Hendrix - Watchtower

    [continued in next message]

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  • From LowRider44M@1:229/2 to All on Saturday, April 18, 2020 12:39:44
    From: intraphase@gmail.com

    The Hives - Hate to Say I Told You So
    https://youtu.be/Uz1Jwyxd4tE

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  • From LowRider44M@1:229/2 to slider on Saturday, April 18, 2020 12:21:53
    From: intraphase@gmail.com

    On Saturday, April 18, 2020 at 1:22:14 PM UTC-4, slider wrote:
    ### - there's really no point to all this matie, have tried & tried with
    you till am blue in the puss and you wont/can't even meet me halfway?

    you say " no debts between us" only that's not quite correct is it?

    State the debt succinctly.
    It exists only in your mind.
    What law rule or procedural regulation was violated
    and in what jurisdiction did it occur. Who are you witnesses.
    How and why does the court acquire jurisdiction over the "alleged" debt.


    and as
    such i 'have' tried to clear the air between us by taking things back to where it all really began

    It was the flapping of a butterflies wings that you adopted
    as part of your internal identity. You provoked a dispute and
    Mr. Eight hammered you. It was a game. You suffered no injury
    other than the loss of eazy cam. That's how sorcerers play "The Game."
    They distract you while danger is approaching from another direction.
    "The art of war is the art of deception." Sun Tzu
    As a person who lost the middle way, you became a Peace Jesus.
    I could falsely claim a debt that I was offended by watching you throw
    rocks at the USA funeral 911 procession, which preceded the battle of EZCam.

    As a connoisseur of fine fiction...
    {especially : one who understands the details, technique, or principles of an art and is competent to act as a critical judge}
    Mr. Eight knew you provoked a transaction to secure an interpersonal
    conflict to acquire enough emotional intoxicants to write a work of fiction. Most likely he stole and shall not replace the final chapter of your work. Another trick I watched the insane play on each other when moonlighting
    at an asylum was observing one patient attempt to complete a five hundred
    piece jigsaw puzzle, while other patients stole a single piece. The older patients would count the pieces before embarking so as to determine how
    many patients they needed to identify as opponents. One by one the patients would return the missing pieces.

    You initiated a transaction with releasing a fake photo.
    Everybody knew it was a fake with no identifying features.
    You own every debt generated by that act of deception and aftermath.
    That's what "It Is What It Is Means" aka OWN IT OR LOSE the middle way.

    (it actually began before that but through long
    exchanges we'd achieved a kinda stalemate/balance not to fuck with each other?)

    The Game was designed to prevent stalemates.
    You lost EZCam, you lost Daniela, and developed a Two More - Tumour.
    I have failed to disrespect Chris for 15 years. That's how you OWN IT.
    In The Game, when played outside the circle repeating the same exact
    mistake twice leads to physical death. You saw Eight's video evidence.
    You witnessed the execution. You know Mr. Eight and Dylan could give
    only a "Hoot Owl Hoot" They won, John lost. He went out on top after
    creating the best work of his solo career.

    The Gasoli Brothers
    https://youtu.be/mns9VeRguys
    Stop the tape at 00:12
    https://youtu.be/mns9VeRguys?t=12
    Tell me it's not a gag at John's expense.

    [] The Infinite Is An Ecology Of Economies []

    your 'resentment' of me

    Eight gave you a brain tumor in a mind game.
    Not something MI6, MI5, FBI, CIA or Interpol concern themselves with.
    The closest thing I have to a girlfriend is Mr. Eight, he knows I never
    concede or apologize frivolously. Your complaint that Mr. Eight beat
    you at your own game is frivolous. Chris was the aggrieved party and
    I forced Mr. Eight to permanently modify his behavior.
    No apology was exchanged. You provoked a conflict and the conflict was
    sorted without your input because you refused to negotiate on the issue
    of who provoked the conflict. Mr. Eight's subsequent behavior towards
    you was a required by law courtesy to Chris. You live by whims and improvisation, so does Mr. Eight until he breaks The Laws of Creation.
    Were Chris to request a formal Admit-Amend-Apoligize-Continue sequence
    Mr. Eight would eagerly comply as evidence of his personal honesty and permanent abidance to The Laws of Creation. It's also proof he is not perfect.

    You seek an Admit-Amend-Apoligize-Continue sequence:
    under the heading of:
    Test-Target-Intimidate AS Provoke-Observe-Claim-Continue.

    No error as the provocateur occurred towards you.
    You started it he finished it.


    stemming from that later time and via ee &
    rbb, whom you mistakenly supported in the worst possible way and which
    wasn't their fault that you didn't read the whole situation correctly!

    It starts and ends with the original transaction. The picture.
    You placed a weapon on the table, RBB picked it up and shot you.
    Then you pretended your fictional provocation was real and you were a VICTIM. When you claim to be a victim the transaction is concluded.
    There are no victims on players performing fictional lives in a graveyard.



    to
    side with them was 'your' error! i have thus tried to genuinely forgive
    you + clear the air but all to no avail,

    You have attempted two acts of aggression and been crushed both times.
    You lost

    you're lost in the past (i didn't
    actually have to do fuck all, wasn't obliged to i mean, but did still actually try!)

    Like I said, Mr. Eight considers you to be Chris's dog.
    He behaves nice towards you for that reason only deference to Chris.




    but ya can't let go of your error nor your resentment, and thus it keeps popping out on occasion in the form of little digs and provocations,

    I could genuinely give a flying fuck what goes on in the graveyard.
    You are primarily an emotion based person who doesn't yet know the
    difference between What is True and What is Real. You are stuck in

    Who-What-When-Where-Why Vs How
    AS Assigned Symmetry
    Pure-Full-True-Whole-Natural Vs Eternal/Infinite

    Your looping in a what-full-what-full sequence.
    https://youtu.be/Y6YBKdmOlM8



    and
    which i usually just ignore, and because who can even understand most the 'crap' you come-off with a lot of the time anyway??

    Those who know know who.


    i have never actually asked you for... anything!

    You asked Eight to accept your aggression.


    and i don't want anything now either, no ships bs (what a crock!) nada,

    The two dreams are how Mr. Eight turned you into toll based Subway.

    The Subways - Rock n Roll Queen.
    https://youtu.be/lLZvJ_rtZO8

    not even to debate with you anymore because you're being almost completely disingenuous anyway?

    Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Mr. Sincerity has spoken.

    (i can always smell disingenuousness-ness a mile away
    lol, so have never been taken in by your bs all along...)

    If you say so it must be true. Case Dismissed. No harm no foul.



    lol do i call you bob's bitch? the question being why you even 'need' to
    say crap like that?? (such resentment that it overflows in such a graphic manner lol)


    I don't hump his leg, or let him hump mine.
    Same goes for every musician of whatever degree.

    I have my music.

    but in reality it's mere deflection and mirrors! bs iow! insincerity! lies
    & illusions! exactly the same bs rbb was involved in! (c'mon tell the
    truth; you bought into that chain letter didn'tcha eh? yeah ya did...)

    Mr Sincerity asks a question?
    Another part of the black hole you opened.


    and this coming from someone asserting "Truth, Truth and TRUTH!" like they actually mean it??

    so hypocrisy too!


    ___^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^___
    Your Grandma's slipping.


    you're basically no better that dumb fuck in the video? (no wonder you
    liked him lol)

    so just forget it pal, we done here now, and you're only ticking-over on 3 cylinders anyway + likely to blow a gasket any day now! (stored 120 days provisions ffs?? talk about being insecure! LOL)

    I only feed you the boomerangs I want returned.
    Eight says "This from a guy that goes to the market at 3:00 AM."

    That level of pitter patter and chitter chitter using recursive
    memory to construct potentially ego damaging insults is not only
    exquisitely boring but beneath your skills.

    WHEN YOU MAKE THE SAME MISTAKE TWICE - YOU LOSE - EVICTED.


    i gave ya a chance, a 'good' chance man! damn i'd prolly even give jack
    the fuckin' ripper 'a-chance', maybe even a second one under tighter conditions, but defo not a 3rd?


    Don't start crying you'll embarrass what little bit of self remains.

    i dunno 'who' you are and could actually care less, plus at my age no
    longer have the energy to spare to chase ya over hills & fences while you play peep-bo... bollocks to that, it's bs!


    Great warriors don't die they just fade away.

    passing advice, being to ask yourself just what 'type' of person 'attacks' things that represent the middle way of things huh?

    You do when you proclaim nothing is everything.
    If you understood geometry you'd know the middle
    is a value assignment.
    A point within a point does not exist

    and i think you'll
    eventually realise that they're exactly the same idiots that were directly responsible for nailing poor old jc to the cross

    I told you previously Jesus was an investment strategy
    in the Game of Consciousness, the original owner of that body
    was transferred to a more suitable trajectory set.
    You'll never understand that body was destined for crucifixion.
    Mr. Eight, John and Bob merely souped up the narrative equations.
    Artist Create. If you were a tuba and John found you...

    What did John get out of you?
    https://youtu.be/AQDBPW6RqC8


    is that type; they'd
    bought the front row seats on calvery to see it and cheer his passing hah!

    mainly because they were so heavily invested in the left & right of things that anything like jc represented a direct threat to their, erm, 'business interests' heh...


    Peace Truth War Vs. War Truth Peace

    The middle way is the verses.
    You allege there was a me vs. you or you vs. me.
    I'm saying you are a "Penny Lane" in John's pocket.
    That Mr. Eight won the penny and shipped it to the scrap yard.
    Here you lie on the bottom of the ocean in an Octopus's Garden.
    Johns given you two haircuts on Eight behalf.
    "Your friends are your enemies." Lennon

    Penny lane there is a barber SHOWING PHOTOGRAPHS.

    Captain Marvel zapped you right between the eyes.

    Penny Lane
    https://youtu.be/S-rB0pHI9fU
    Octopus's Garden
    https://youtu.be/V-BdGchS0yk

    as for the rest of your out & out bs & flim-flam diversionary nonsense,
    you can stick it where the sun don't shine mate!


    A lot of ass play and bum references there.
    No comment

    will 'never' shine!

    ever. :)

    (Ps. no need to reply btw unless ya really feel ya have to; coz i wont be reading it, or any of your cracked-pot bs ever again...)

    killfiled! and....

    Done.



    Your to desperate for reparte to abide in that promise.

    See you tomorrow...

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