From: allreadydun@gmail.com

slider dreams:

geez what i wouldn't give for about 20-grands worth of advertising right
now eh?

'coz am sure could almost certainly turn that into 40-grand, possibly a
lot more, and then just do it again & again ad infinitum...

but what else can a poor boy do eh??

uncle chrissy hits the 'fat' one you'll see your 20 grandy.
What else can a rich boy do? ha ha

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From: slider@atashram.com

but what else can a poor boy do eh??

uncle chrissy hits the 'fat' one you'll see your 20 grandy.

What else can a rich boy do? ha ha

### - am resigned to it taking a - l o n g - time (only about 150 years
hah!)

so am actually pleasantly surprised to see it making any progress at all?

it's a novelty to see it doin' so well early on and is actually quite encouraging, a good portent for the future perhaps :)

the dreaming community likes it so why not the general public one day too
as that community expands eh?

the good thing going for it is that WILDs 'makes-sense', that there's a
linear & logical process to doing it; effectively, an on/off switch that
dilds singularly lack, and this is precisely it's appeal going forward:
it's an altogether more effective + predictable/dependable way to have
lucid dreams!

meanwhile, they's all still tearing themselves apart if the current state
of our world is anything to go by, they love a drop of war on this planet,
it gives them a sense of (insane) purpose that all adds-up in their heads
+ seem to lack the imagination for anything more subtle than bashing each other's heads in? (well duh!)

work like mules, a drink, a fight & a fuck... and they's happy?? lol :)))

only they's not really that happy are they!

we still live in a very primitive world...

and they's asleep to anything else!

desolation angels indeed...

god help us :)

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From: thangolossus@gmail.com

On Thu, 27 Jun 2019 10:26:09 +0100, slider <slider@atashram.com>
wrote:

but what else can a poor boy do eh??

uncle chrissy hits the 'fat' one you'll see your 20 grandy.

What else can a rich boy do? ha ha

### - am resigned to it taking a - l o n g - time (only about 150 years
hah!)

so am actually pleasantly surprised to see it making any progress at all?

it's a novelty to see it doin' so well early on and is actually quite >encouraging, a good portent for the future perhaps :)

the dreaming community likes it so why not the general public one day too
as that community expands eh?

The "dreaming community"? Is there a group of humans which doesn't
dream? The "non-dreaming community" perhaps?

Dumbo.

the good thing going for it is that WILDs 'makes-sense', that there's a >linear & logical process to doing it; effectively, an on/off switch that >dilds singularly lack, and this is precisely it's appeal going forward:
it's an altogether more effective + predictable/dependable way to have
lucid dreams!

meanwhile, they's all still tearing themselves apart if the current state
of our world is anything to go by, they love a drop of war on this planet,
it gives them a sense of (insane) purpose that all adds-up in their heads
+ seem to lack the imagination for anything more subtle than bashing each >other's heads in? (well duh!)

work like mules, a drink, a fight & a fuck... and they's happy?? lol :)))

only they's not really that happy are they!

we still live in a very primitive world...

and they's asleep to anything else!

desolation angels indeed...

god help us :)

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From: allreadydun@gmail.com

slider wrote:
but first chris wrote this:

if i was a lucid dream teacher i would teach people
to go for the dreamsign.

### - if you were teaching dilds ya mean (one has to make that
distinction) ;)

well yes we are speaking of a dream induced lucid dream here.

### - that was cc's idea wasn't it heh; the aliens (or rather: allies) put them there to catch our attention so we'd fall into their nets (the rotten duplicitous bastards! lol)

that might be his idea but it's not mine. Those dudes are there because
you put them there. The same that you put thoughts in your own mind.

### - obvious & blatant contradictions + total irrationalities (dream
signs) assail us while having ordinary dreams, prolly 'coz we're fuckin'
fast asleep and thus too dozy to even acknowledge it, let alone question
it? not to mention a lifetime of deliberately then ignoring such things
added to all that on top; we're idiots in our dreams because all 'actual' reason has fled and we've been dumped into an altered state we can't
possibly cope with because the self-awareness to do so is lacking...

well us lucid or wild dreamers can't really say (after a lifetime)
anymore, we have been fuckin' with this shit for a good 25 years at least.
i just finished up jacking around with dreams for 50 years. It's not
like i'm a newcomer on the street. I had reams of dream journals from
the 70's.

i still don't like dilds tho' because it's just like waking up in a
madhouse? it's very disconcerting to slowly come to your senses with all
that madness going on around you! (giant chickens no less!) haha! and then someone tryin' to compete with a jet-plane? LOL :)))

dude you begin where you are. No one jumps over the present.

nah, fuck all that haha! (although it's actually unavoidable, really,
because it inevitably happens that you fall asleep for real sometimes and have dilds instead...)

compared to WILDs anyway, dilds just feel... wrong?

you're also totally cut-off from seeing/feeling the midway point (and the awareness of your body too) and that's even more disconcerting; the first time that happened to moi i genuinely thought i must have died in my sleep and ended up there haha; it was the only explanation for not being fully aware as usual: half of myself was missing??

nah, don't like that haha ;)

ok we'll note that for the record. Slider don't like that stuff.
Everyone sez they are good with that. Court is in recess now. :)

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From: slider@anashram.com

- that was cc's idea wasn't it heh; the aliens (or rather: allies) put
them there to catch our attention so we'd fall into their nets (the
rotten
duplicitous bastards! lol)

that might be his idea but it's not mine. Those dudes are there because
you put them there. The same that you put thoughts in your own mind.

### - so it's your idea then that we put those inconsistencies there
ourselves (i don't believe in allies either) in order to notice them and
what? wake up in the dream?

- obvious & blatant contradictions + total irrationalities (dream
signs) assail us while having ordinary dreams, prolly 'coz we're fuckin'
fast asleep and thus too dozy to even acknowledge it, let alone question
it? not to mention a lifetime of deliberately then ignoring such things
added to all that on top; we're idiots in our dreams because all
'actual'
reason has fled and we've been dumped into an altered state we can't
possibly cope with because the self-awareness to do so is lacking...

well us lucid or wild dreamers can't really say (after a lifetime)
anymore, we have been fuckin' with this shit for a good 25 years at
least.
i just finished up jacking around with dreams for 50 years. It's not
like i'm a newcomer on the street. I had reams of dream journals from
the 70's.

### - tend to agree that once someone starts lucid dreaming more
deliberately that it changes things and then becomes a subconscious goal
from then on that develops to its natural conclusion (or at least starts heading-off in that direction) - cc's idea being that the more asleep you
are is the greater the attack + then justified that by saying dreamers'
dreams gradually become orderly all by themselves as those 'elements' are gradually forced out...

i still don't like dilds tho' because it's just like waking up in a
madhouse? it's very disconcerting to slowly come to your senses with all
that madness going on around you! (giant chickens no less!) haha! and
then
someone tryin' to compete with a jet-plane? LOL :)))

dude you begin where you are. No one jumps over the present.

### - unless you learn to WILD first instead of dilding?

learning to WILD first and going directly to go and collecting your dream
bucks works very well too + no one could've been more surprised than moi
in that respect; the only weird bit was suddenly being pulled into a fully lucid dream when wasn't expecting it, a genuine WTF??? moment! lol :)))

so the question remains: why go down some more tortuous route if ya don't
have to? in my case it was just luck or whatever, but now WILDs are out in
the open it's a choice that's open to anyone...

nah, fuck all that haha! (although it's actually unavoidable, really,
because it inevitably happens that you fall asleep for real sometimes
and
have dilds instead...)

compared to WILDs anyway, dilds just feel... wrong?

you're also totally cut-off from seeing/feeling the midway point (and
the
awareness of your body too) and that's even more disconcerting; the
first
time that happened to moi i genuinely thought i must have died in my
sleep
and ended up there haha; it was the only explanation for not being fully
aware as usual: half of myself was missing??

nah, don't like that haha ;)

ok we'll note that for the record. Slider don't like that stuff.
Everyone sez they are good with that. Court is in recess now. :)

### - (laffing) have had other dilds that weren't so disturbing in the
waking process, a slight oh! it's a dream! of surprise, and took-over no problem so maybe ya gets used to it... the presence of dc's from the off
still being the only unusual/slightly-disturbing part but don't mind that
so much, other than all those dc's are lunatics haha, in which case it's
just like waking up in an asylum as the only sane person there, something
which also almost exactly mirrors my waking-world experience of about 40
years ago, that asylum being society itself ;)

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From: allreadydun@gmail.com

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