• A Question

    From einsiedlerkrebs@1:229/2 to All on Saturday, November 03, 2018 13:22:35
    XPost: alt.support.schizophrenia, alt.philosophy.taoism, alt.philosophy.zen XPost: alt.philosophy, alt.buddha.short.fat.guy
    From: rainbowguardian@web.de

    The Flux and The Corrective

    If everything is relative or in a flux, what is the corrective
    (fluxcompensator ;-) ) of the all-and-all, what changes the almighty,
    the all-and-all, the Tao, the evolution? Is it an outside force, though
    the all-and-all encompasses even that, is it the abstract, the unknown,
    the unfathomable unnameable, is it chaosmagic, though it should also be
    part of the al-and-all, and does it change also itself and the source of all-and-all and maybe the inversion of being, etc.? Is it like nde’ers
    said like god creating the universe in a violent outburst, that some
    kind of unknown violent source from the almighty something abstract
    mystical unfathomable unnamemable is the corrective, driving force of
    the flux, like if we must rub against each other, or like water washing
    the stones, to become beautiful like yooperlites?


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  • From thang ornerythinchus@1:229/2 to rainbowguardian@web.de on Wednesday, November 21, 2018 11:42:16
    XPost: alt.support.schizophrenia, alt.philosophy.taoism, alt.philosophy.zen XPost: alt.philosophy, alt.buddha.short.fat.guy
    From: thangolossus@gmail.com

    On Sat, 3 Nov 2018 13:22:35 +0100, einsiedlerkrebs
    <rainbowguardian@web.de> wrote:

    The Flux and The Corrective

    If everything is relative or in a flux, what is the corrective >(fluxcompensator ;-) ) of the all-and-all, what changes the almighty,
    the all-and-all, the Tao, the evolution? Is it an outside force, though
    the all-and-all encompasses even that, is it the abstract, the unknown,
    the unfathomable unnameable, is it chaosmagic, though it should also be
    part of the al-and-all, and does it change also itself and the source of >all-and-all and maybe the inversion of being, etc.? Is it like nde’ers
    said like god creating the universe in a violent outburst, that some
    kind of unknown violent source from the almighty something abstract
    mystical unfathomable unnamemable is the corrective, driving force of
    the flux, like if we must rub against each other, or like water washing
    the stones, to become beautiful like yooperlites?


    I thought you said above that you were off your meds? Best you get on
    them again, but whether you're on them or not, you're still nucking
    futs :)

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  • From einsiedlerkrebs@1:229/2 to All on Thursday, November 22, 2018 21:55:14
    XPost: alt.support.schizophrenia, alt.philosophy.taoism, alt.philosophy.zen XPost: alt.philosophy, alt.buddha.short.fat.guy
    From: rainbowguardian@web.de

    Am 21.11.2018 um 03:42 schrieb thang ornerythinchus:
    On Sat, 3 Nov 2018 13:22:35 +0100, einsiedlerkrebs
    <rainbowguardian@web.de> wrote:

    The Flux and The Corrective

    If everything is relative or in a flux, what is the corrective
    (fluxcompensator ;-) ) of the all-and-all, what changes the almighty,
    the all-and-all, the Tao, the evolution? Is it an outside force, though
    the all-and-all encompasses even that, is it the abstract, the unknown,
    the unfathomable unnameable, is it chaosmagic, though it should also be
    part of the al-and-all, and does it change also itself and the source of
    all-and-all and maybe the inversion of being, etc.? Is it like nde’ers
    said like god creating the universe in a violent outburst, that some
    kind of unknown violent source from the almighty something abstract
    mystical unfathomable unnamemable is the corrective, driving force of
    the flux, like if we must rub against each other, or like water washing
    the stones, to become beautiful like yooperlites?


    I thought you said above that you were off your meds? Best you get on
    them again, but whether you're on them or not, you're still nucking
    futs :)

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    Sorry to tell you but just because you're stupid and don't understand
    what i'm talking about doesn't make me "nucking futs"!

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  • From einsiedlerkrebs@1:229/2 to All on Friday, November 23, 2018 21:11:47
    From: rainbowguardian@web.de

    Am 23.11.2018 um 19:37 schrieb LowRider44M:
    On Saturday, November 3, 2018 at 8:22:37 AM UTC-4, einsiedlerkrebs wrote:
    The Flux and The Corrective

    If everything is relative or in a flux, what is the corrective
    (fluxcompensator ;-) ) of the all-and-all, what changes the almighty,
    the all-and-all, the Tao, the evolution? Is it an outside force, though
    the all-and-all encompasses even that, is it the abstract, the unknown,
    the unfathomable unnameable, is it chaosmagic, though it should also be
    part of the al-and-all, and does it change also itself and the source of
    all-and-all and maybe the inversion of being, etc.? Is it like nde’ers
    said like god creating the universe in a violent outburst, that some
    kind of unknown violent source from the almighty something abstract
    mystical unfathomable unnamemable is the corrective, driving force of
    the flux, like if we must rub against each other, or like water washing
    the stones, to become beautiful like yooperlites?


    --
    https://cosmicpurple.blog/

    Borrowing inward a realm of "Nodes" is found.
    A sea of spherical instantantaneous computations.
    In math it is Zero, science the Zero Point, religion The Almighty
    and in mysticism, The Kingdom Within.

    To access and inhabit a single node successfully is Eternal Totality.
    The realm we live in has delayed cause and effect in Zero there is no delay. Zero Almighty looks like a circular room or ship when inside, without
    gadgets.
    Everything is managed by consciousness. What you enter with is the tool set.

    Repeated journies to Zero lead to more complex systems of consciousness.
    Hard core building successes are eventually visible as real world events.

    Simulation Debate
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgSZA3NPpBs
    Original Hypothesis
    https://www.simulation-argument.com/


    There's a similar philosophical thought construct/experiment of the
    brain in jar in a scientists lab him creating a virtual reality for that
    brain and performing tests on me/us!

    Jesus spoke of the five trees.
    (19) Jesus said: Blessed is he who was before he came into being. If you
    become disciples to me (and) listen to my words, these stones will minister to you. For you have five trees in Paradise which do not change, either in summer or in winter, and
    their leaves do not fall. He who knows them shall not taste of death

    []

    Thank you for that!


    In order to escape this version of the cosmos you have to build a new one.
    In between the most inward and outward new formulas can be built and tested. A copy of this version of the cosmos once recorded can be used as a source for harvesting information patterns and complex identity patterns if a
    decision
    is made to populate ones own version of the cosmos with "Others"

    There are many versions of the cosmos inhabitated by a single escapee from other versions of the cosmos, beings who live alone and "cast" a self into other highly populated versions of the cosmos when a decision is made to do
    so.

    Zero-Almighty as the most inward & outward is the origin of all versions of the cosmos and facilitates all new versions of the cosmos, including mine. This version of the cosmos we are in is without long range transportation
    that
    would allow its residents to populate its version of the cosmos.

    regarding long range transportation, i already seen silver energy disc spaceships and golden light spaceship, though unknown if from this
    universe or another reality!

    Meaning and context must be built brick by brick, layer by layer.
    In my eigth year I made it to Zero Almighty and have been building ever
    since.

    The Bomb - New Young Pony Club :-) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g05AE0S4fMs



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  • From LowRider44M@1:229/2 to einsiedlerkrebs on Friday, November 23, 2018 11:37:36
    From: intraphase@gmail.com

    On Saturday, November 3, 2018 at 8:22:37 AM UTC-4, einsiedlerkrebs wrote:
    The Flux and The Corrective

    If everything is relative or in a flux, what is the corrective (fluxcompensator ;-) ) of the all-and-all, what changes the almighty,
    the all-and-all, the Tao, the evolution? Is it an outside force, though
    the all-and-all encompasses even that, is it the abstract, the unknown,
    the unfathomable unnameable, is it chaosmagic, though it should also be
    part of the al-and-all, and does it change also itself and the source of all-and-all and maybe the inversion of being, etc.? Is it like nde’ers said like god creating the universe in a violent outburst, that some
    kind of unknown violent source from the almighty something abstract
    mystical unfathomable unnamemable is the corrective, driving force of
    the flux, like if we must rub against each other, or like water washing
    the stones, to become beautiful like yooperlites?


    --
    https://cosmicpurple.blog/

    Borrowing inward a realm of "Nodes" is found.
    A sea of spherical instantantaneous computations.
    In math it is Zero, science the Zero Point, religion The Almighty
    and in mysticism, The Kingdom Within.

    To access and inhabit a single node successfully is Eternal Totality.
    The realm we live in has delayed cause and effect in Zero there is no delay. Zero Almighty looks like a circular room or ship when inside, without gadgets. Everything is managed by consciousness. What you enter with is the tool set.

    Repeated journies to Zero lead to more complex systems of consciousness.
    Hard core building successes are eventually visible as real world events.

    Simulation Debate
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgSZA3NPpBs
    Original Hypothesis
    https://www.simulation-argument.com/

    Jesus spoke of the five trees.
    (19) Jesus said: Blessed is he who was before he came into being. If you become
    disciples to me (and) listen to my words, these stones will minister to you. For you have five trees in Paradise which do not change, either in summer or in
    winter, and their
    leaves do not fall. He who knows them shall not taste of death

    []

    In order to escape this version of the cosmos you have to build a new one.
    In between the most inward and outward new formulas can be built and tested.
    A copy of this version of the cosmos once recorded can be used as a source
    for harvesting information patterns and complex identity patterns if a decision is made to populate ones own version of the cosmos with "Others"

    There are many versions of the cosmos inhabitated by a single escapee from other versions of the cosmos, beings who live alone and "cast" a self into other highly populated versions of the cosmos when a decision is made to do so.

    Zero-Almighty as the most inward & outward is the origin of all versions of the cosmos and facilitates all new versions of the cosmos, including mine.
    This version of the cosmos we are in is without long range transportation that would allow its residents to populate its version of the cosmos.

    Meaning and context must be built brick by brick, layer by layer.
    In my eigth year I made it to Zero Almighty and have been building ever since.

    The Bomb - New Young Pony Club :-) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g05AE0S4fMs

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: www.darkrealms.ca (1:229/2)
  • From LowRider44M@1:229/2 to einsiedlerkrebs on Saturday, November 24, 2018 11:40:58
    From: intraphase@gmail.com

    On Friday, November 23, 2018 at 2:11:50 PM UTC-5, einsiedlerkrebs wrote:
    Am 23.11.2018 um 19:37 schrieb LowRider44M:
    On Saturday, November 3, 2018 at 8:22:37 AM UTC-4, einsiedlerkrebs wrote:
    The Flux and The Corrective

    If everything is relative or in a flux, what is the corrective
    (fluxcompensator ;-) ) of the all-and-all, what changes the almighty,
    the all-and-all, the Tao, the evolution? Is it an outside force, though
    the all-and-all encompasses even that, is it the abstract, the unknown,
    the unfathomable unnameable, is it chaosmagic, though it should also be
    part of the al-and-all, and does it change also itself and the source of >> all-and-all and maybe the inversion of being, etc.? Is it like nde’ers >> said like god creating the universe in a violent outburst, that some
    kind of unknown violent source from the almighty something abstract
    mystical unfathomable unnamemable is the corrective, driving force of
    the flux, like if we must rub against each other, or like water washing
    the stones, to become beautiful like yooperlites?


    --
    https://cosmicpurple.blog/

    Borrowing inward a realm of "Nodes" is found.
    A sea of spherical instantantaneous computations.
    In math it is Zero, science the Zero Point, religion The Almighty
    and in mysticism, The Kingdom Within.

    To access and inhabit a single node successfully is Eternal Totality.
    The realm we live in has delayed cause and effect in Zero there is no
    delay.
    Zero Almighty looks like a circular room or ship when inside, without
    gadgets.
    Everything is managed by consciousness. What you enter with is the tool
    set.

    Repeated journies to Zero lead to more complex systems of consciousness. Hard core building successes are eventually visible as real world events.

    Simulation Debate
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgSZA3NPpBs
    Original Hypothesis
    https://www.simulation-argument.com/


    There's a similar philosophical thought construct/experiment of the
    brain in jar in a scientists lab him creating a virtual reality for that brain and performing tests on me/us!

    Jesus spoke of the five trees.
    (19) Jesus said: Blessed is he who was before he came into being. If you
    become disciples to me (and) listen to my words, these stones will minister to you. For you have five trees in Paradise which do not change, either in summer or in winter, and
    their leaves do not fall. He who knows them shall not taste of death

    []

    Thank you for that!


    In order to escape this version of the cosmos you have to build a new one. In between the most inward and outward new formulas can be built and
    tested.
    A copy of this version of the cosmos once recorded can be used as a source for harvesting information patterns and complex identity patterns if a
    decision
    is made to populate ones own version of the cosmos with "Others"

    There are many versions of the cosmos inhabitated by a single escapee from other versions of the cosmos, beings who live alone and "cast" a self into other highly populated versions of the cosmos when a decision is made to do
    so.

    Zero-Almighty as the most inward & outward is the origin of all versions of the cosmos and facilitates all new versions of the cosmos, including mine. This version of the cosmos we are in is without long range transportation
    that
    would allow its residents to populate its version of the cosmos.

    regarding long range transportation, i already seen silver energy disc spaceships and golden light spaceship, though unknown if from this
    universe or another reality!

    Meaning and context must be built brick by brick, layer by layer.
    In my eigth year I made it to Zero Almighty and have been building ever
    since.

    The Bomb - New Young Pony Club :-) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g05AE0S4fMs



    --
    https://cosmicpurple.blog/

    My best guess, you saw reassurances from your eternal totality.
    This world is like the 23rd floor of a building with trillions of floors. Knowing other worlds exists makes walking through this one a little easier.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From thang ornerythinchus@1:229/2 to rainbowguardian@web.de on Monday, November 26, 2018 16:58:07
    From: thangolossus@gmail.com

    On Fri, 23 Nov 2018 20:11:47 +0100, einsiedlerkrebs
    <rainbowguardian@web.de> wrote:

    Am 23.11.2018 um 19:37 schrieb LowRider44M:
    On Saturday, November 3, 2018 at 8:22:37 AM UTC-4, einsiedlerkrebs wrote: >>> The Flux and The Corrective

    If everything is relative or in a flux, what is the corrective
    (fluxcompensator ;-) ) of the all-and-all, what changes the almighty,
    the all-and-all, the Tao, the evolution? Is it an outside force, though
    the all-and-all encompasses even that, is it the abstract, the unknown,
    the unfathomable unnameable, is it chaosmagic, though it should also be
    part of the al-and-all, and does it change also itself and the source of >>> all-and-all and maybe the inversion of being, etc.? Is it like nde’ers >>> said like god creating the universe in a violent outburst, that some
    kind of unknown violent source from the almighty something abstract
    mystical unfathomable unnamemable is the corrective, driving force of
    the flux, like if we must rub against each other, or like water washing
    the stones, to become beautiful like yooperlites?


    --
    https://cosmicpurple.blog/

    Borrowing inward a realm of "Nodes" is found.
    A sea of spherical instantantaneous computations.
    In math it is Zero, science the Zero Point, religion The Almighty
    and in mysticism, The Kingdom Within.

    To access and inhabit a single node successfully is Eternal Totality.
    The realm we live in has delayed cause and effect in Zero there is no delay. >> Zero Almighty looks like a circular room or ship when inside, without gadgets.
    Everything is managed by consciousness. What you enter with is the tool set. >>
    Repeated journies to Zero lead to more complex systems of consciousness.
    Hard core building successes are eventually visible as real world events.

    Simulation Debate
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgSZA3NPpBs
    Original Hypothesis
    https://www.simulation-argument.com/


    There's a similar philosophical thought construct/experiment of the
    brain in jar in a scientists lab him creating a virtual reality for that >brain and performing tests on me/us!

    Jesus spoke of the five trees.
    (19) Jesus said: Blessed is he who was before he came into being. If you become disciples to me (and) listen to my words, these stones will minister to you. For you have five trees in Paradise which do not change, either in summer or in winter, and
    their leaves do not fall. He who knows them shall not taste of death

    []

    Thank you for that!


    In order to escape this version of the cosmos you have to build a new one. >> In between the most inward and outward new formulas can be built and tested. >> A copy of this version of the cosmos once recorded can be used as a source >> for harvesting information patterns and complex identity patterns if a decision
    is made to populate ones own version of the cosmos with "Others"

    There are many versions of the cosmos inhabitated by a single escapee from >> other versions of the cosmos, beings who live alone and "cast" a self into >> other highly populated versions of the cosmos when a decision is made to do so.

    Zero-Almighty as the most inward & outward is the origin of all versions of >> the cosmos and facilitates all new versions of the cosmos, including mine. >> This version of the cosmos we are in is without long range transportation that
    would allow its residents to populate its version of the cosmos.

    regarding long range transportation, i already seen silver energy disc >spaceships and golden light spaceship, though unknown if from this
    universe or another reality!


    Did you take a photo?



    Meaning and context must be built brick by brick, layer by layer.
    In my eigth year I made it to Zero Almighty and have been building ever since.

    The Bomb - New Young Pony Club :-)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g05AE0S4fMs


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  • From LowRider44M@1:229/2 to All on Monday, November 26, 2018 09:41:08
    From: intraphase@gmail.com

    Evidence based believing and evidence based non-believing is not the issue.

    Theorizing and not restricting the imagination by preconceptual limitations,
    is the issue, if and when new knowledge and spheres of action are to be defined.

    Claiming complete knowledge of all things and concluding only life and death are real and for certain is a fallacious argument based on unprovable axioms.

    There is more to the process than nihilistic exstinguishing of imagination. What if both life and death here are an illusion created by our perception,
    and the sensory apparattus that produces it.

    Thinking creates pain.
    The possible degrees of freedom are infinite, followed by responsibilities. Only consciousness exists, without it there are only perceptual equations.

    The mind is an information assemblage.
    The brain is a 3-10 dimensional computational point.
    The mind survives after the brain, the brain is but the shell of perception.

    Old jokes

    What is mind?
    Never matter.
    What is matter?
    Never mind.

    What happens when an infinite force (mind)
    meets an unmovable object (matter)
    They merge.

    If mind survives, matter is transformed into mind.

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  • From thang ornerythinchus@1:229/2 to intraphase@gmail.com on Wednesday, November 28, 2018 15:35:39
    From: thangolossus@gmail.com

    On Mon, 26 Nov 2018 08:41:08 -0800 (PST), LowRider44M
    <intraphase@gmail.com> wrote:



    Evidence based believing and evidence based non-believing is not the issue.

    What the fuck is "evidence based non-believing"? How can a non-belief
    be based on proof? Proof = data = facts. If there is proof, then
    there must be belief - if one posseses the faculty of logic, that is.
    Which admittedly seems to be in short supply around here.


    Theorizing and not restricting the imagination by preconceptual limitations, >is the issue, if and when new knowledge and spheres of action are to be defined.

    So you introduce "unrestricted imagination" - does this include the
    existence of tooth fairies as imagined by a child? Or the existence
    of allah or jehovah or god or krishna or hecate or jupiter as imagined
    by adults? Or the existence of an afterlife as imagined by the
    hopeful desperados?

    And what are "preconceptual limitations"? Did you mean "preconceived limitations"? And what is a "sphere of action"? Wouldn't the word
    "action" be clearer, shorter and less likely to be misunderstood?

    Why use the term "pneumonoultramicroscipicsilicovolcanoconiosis" when
    the word "silicosis" will suffice?


    Claiming complete knowledge of all things and concluding only life and death >are real and for certain is a fallacious argument based on unprovable axioms.

    If you're alluding to my posts in this dying NG, I merely stated the
    obvious - there is no proof of existence after cessation of life
    functions. And there isn't. I never claimed "knowledge of all
    things" even though my knowledge is probably well above average in
    scope. I just ask for proof because anyone wandering through an old
    cemetery can see first hand the proof of cessation of life and the
    dissolution of the once living bodies into constituent molecules and
    elements - but the reverse is, shall we say, a little harder to
    demonstrate.

    Safest best is to man up and take life as Nabokov said - the merest
    chink of light between two eternities of darkness.



    There is more to the process than nihilistic exstinguishing of imagination. >What if both life and death here are an illusion created by our perception, >and the sensory apparattus that produces it.

    Again, no proof, not even rudimentary evidence to back up this wild hypothesizing. What if - we have alter egos formed of dark matter and
    dark energy and this is just a 3D appurtenance of ultimate reality?
    (just made that up, like you did the above).

    No evidence. You would be laughed off stage anywhere outside of
    lunatic fringe shows if you took that sort of view seriously.



    Thinking creates pain.

    Rubbish. Elucidate.

    The possible degrees of freedom are infinite, followed by responsibilities.

    Does not make sense to me. Elucidate.

    Only consciousness exists, without it there are only perceptual equations.

    Really? Even died in the wool quantum mechanics theorists don't
    believe that reducto ad absurdum. I think Bishop Berkely's views are
    not at all taken seriously nowadays - if the tree falls in the forest
    and there is no one to hear it, it really *does* still make a noise.

    You clearly believe (again without proof) that the tree doesn't make a
    noise. Ridiculous.


    The mind is an information assemblage.

    Well everything is information - generally curtailed by the speed of
    light and other physical laws. That includes the mind (assuming you
    mean the human mind) as well.


    The brain is a 3-10 dimensional computational point.

    What? Elucidate. Try not to stray into gibberish. If necessary,
    cite some scholarly references or even Wiki.


    The mind survives after the brain, the brain is but the shell of perception.

    No proof whatsoever. Again, you're waffling about afterlife or
    entering the sea of consciousness or whatever. Wrong. Life is cheap
    and especially so when there are 7 billioin highly developed brains on
    this planet and hundreds of trillions of planets in this one galaxy
    and trillions of galaxies out to the cosmic horizon (>90MLY diameter
    centred on earth at present, but expanding) and probably countless
    trillions or quadrillions of galaxies after the horizon, but we'll
    never know. And, potentially, infinite flat universe and possibly,
    one of an infinite number of infinite flat universes - but we'll never
    know that, either.

    Give me proof or STFU.


    Old jokes

    What is mind?
    Never matter.
    What is matter?
    Never mind.

    What happens when an infinite force (mind)
    meets an unmovable object (matter)
    They merge.

    If mind survives, matter is transformed into mind.

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