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On Wed, 08 Aug 2018 02:54:37 +0100, thang ornerythinchus <
thangolossus@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, 18 Jul 2018 23:00:31 +0100, slider <slider@anashram.com>
wrote:
On Wed, 18 Jul 2018 02:51:56 +0100, thang ornerythinchus
<thangolossus@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 16 Jul 2018 21:31:14 +0100, slider <slider@anashram.com>
wrote:
On Mon, 16 Jul 2018 09:07:36 +0100, thang ornerythinchus
<thangolossus@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 05 Jul 2018 21:28:52 +0100, slider <slider@anashram.com>
wrote:
### - the fb WILDs & WILDing group's now up to 450 members just
today
:)
still small, i know, but growing steadily so far...
plus, there's very large lucid dreaming groups on fb currently
sporting
between 30,000 and 60,000 members??
60,000! - and with no reason whatsoever why 'they' shouldn't
also/eventually all join out WILDing group as well, as & when they >>>>>> get
around to hearing about it? - 9 more joining just in the last week >>>>>> alone!
kewl... 'the future's so bright i/we need shades!' (old song haha) >>>>>> ;)
30K to 60K is very respectable. You just might be on to something.
Who knows?
### - there's actually 68,000 in the above group mentioned, although i >>>> doubt all of them are actually active...
nevertheless, the numbers are impressive + clearly indicative of a
huge
+
growing interest in lucid dreaming in all its forms - e.g., when i
first
joined fb 2 years ago and mentioned lucid dreaming in the sign-up, it
informed me that 134,000 members had expressed/tagged an interest in
it, a
figure that has surely grown since then... and that's only fb!? - for
instance; there's an different + dedicated online forum (the largest
found) boasting 98,000 members!)
our little WILDs & WILDing fb group now totaling 462 members as of
today,
adding 12 new members in the last 11 days ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEnDOXmyU-o
(great movie) ;)
now c'mon sancho saddle-up hahaha; we gots demons & wizards to deal
with +
a whole heap of bs to debunk hehehe :)
In times of uncertainty, stress and danger, people generally like to
hide their fears. In the pre-WW1 years, it was theosophy and
spiritualism. Perhaps now lucid dreaming is analogous?
### - imho no (else i wouldn't have bothered) - what it (WILDs)
potentially does is to actually 'add' another (plus genuine) facet to
our
overall awareness... if it was just down to dilds alone i'd have defo
hesitated more, but WILDs are different due to the completely
'volitional'
aspect of them; something you can actually turn on & off at will and
that
remains permanently with you can hardly be just another passing
distraction + the 'detachment' doing them actually creates (or rather:
introduces one to) is beyond anything people are used to experiencing
except from maybe 10 years of solid meditation - and who's got time for
that??
besides, theosophy and spiritualism were totally fake, WILDing isn't :)
I wasn't talking about whether or not the distractions were fake or
not. You could just as easily say every single example of
spiritualism analysed was found to be without factual basis but there
is still possiblity that there exist factual cases.
I was talking about the distraction in times of great social stress or upheaval (world wars and depressions and the like).
Your lucid dreaming is most probably with factual basis but dreaming
is inherently so fantastical, so mysterious, that anything could be a
valid explanation. Lucid dreaming is by no means a factually settled proposition.
### - i actually kinda agree with that last bit, in that it's an entirely
new + relatively unexplored frontier (a revolution of the mind), but
whether or not it serves as a temporary social distraction, 'coz that's
what they tend to do, is actually besides the point...
personally, i think it's more than that, more than just another passing distraction (the spiritualist movement was baloney no matter the
well-meaning motives behind it, floating ghostly hands and faked voices of
the dead etc, and thus doomed to fail because it just couldn't hold up to
close examination at the time let alone now?? thus they were counting on people's impressionable + victorian imagination in order to bring them
into a very particular way of seeing the world and themselves in it,
initiates would have later been told the truth in (and by) varying degrees
when deemed they could handle it; no wonder then krishnamurti, who likely received one of the best real educations ever, then denounced the whole
thing and walked away from it all? thus, in the process, demonstrating
just what it is exactly people 'really' have to do! to walk away from it
all! completely! and why i genuinely find his story to be quite so fascinating...)
fact is... lucid dreaming (particularly the WILD-side of it heh) is a
quite deliberate extension/projection of one's waking consciousness into
other genuine areas of explorable awareness... its practice expands the
mind in the same way psychoactive drugs do! only of course it's even
'better' without having to use drugs to experience it!
you really have to try this to understand it properly + fully thang, words alone won't convince you except perhaps in-theory... and is actually
profound when examined from a purely 'objective' pov! (thus all my
exhortations in that direction in the book itself...)
the real problem is the 'term' lucid-dreaming, which implies it's all only
a dream and thus not worth really bothering with (jeremy's current
stance/take on it all hehehe, which is 'perfect' as my
reverse-barometer-friend hah, he gets everything wrong! 180-degrees wrong! virtually every time according to his previous form anyway lol, he's mr upside-down-man! smile...)
try it, it only takes very little practice to get it all up & going and
then you'll be enabled to take these little 'excursions' whenever &
wherever you like, day or night! you could, for example, get all set up
with your smokes, get high, and not just wander around in your imagination figuratively speaking, but 'actually' speaking! - literally hacking your
own... mind!
plus once you get your WILDing functioning you'll also begin to, quite spontaneously, experience dilds too without even having to lift a finger
to initiate them (which is cool...) and then you'll have 'both' sides of
the coin to examine in its entirety...
personally, i think you'll like/enjoy it as it'll likely allow you to
touch on things you've only ever 'dreamed' of actually touching before ;)
what have ya got to lose?
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