• Re: merry xmas thang :) (3/4)

    From slider@1:229/2 to theBeach@cairo.ankh.io on Monday, January 06, 2025 08:08:16
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    enough to see it legalised for recreational use, it's just annoying
    that
    everything takes so long, have been waiting 30+ years haha ;)

    Look I'm not a kid anymore. I barely remember my youth. I'm happy to
    have a pipe, and not much more than a puff or two, at night. I
    couldn't imagine being stoned on grass all the time, nothing would be
    worse now at my age. Also, too much water under the bridge which
    doesn't lead to a real carefree existence all the time, some of the
    time yes, but not all the time. Stoned on weed is good when the
    mental burden is light, not when it's heavy.

    So, to me there isn't any difference now between legal recreational
    weed and medical weed - it's the same weed, imported from all over the
    world, not much grown here in Australia, high THC if you want it, not
    much on the expenditure side either.

    I've slowed down a lot as I got old(er). Still sharp but far more
    serious about things. No longer the 1973 hippy with the mushroom
    jeans on tripping on acid and smoking a lot of pot.

    ### - was only being kinda sarcastic re waiting until it's legalised
    etc,
    they've been talking about that nearly forever here in the uk, ever
    since
    it was banned in fact back in 1947 or thereabouts, the uk being one of
    the
    last to make it illegal and only under protest at the time seeing as
    they'd virtually raised a whole empire off the profits of
    importing/exporting dope worldwide (cough-cough, sorry i meant 'spices',
    riiight...) ;)

    otherwise you and i are very different then in that respect, because for
    someone you accused of knowing nada about it altogether i've actually
    smoked it near enough every single day since age 17 or thereabouts after
    being introduced to it at college heh (how that happened actually being
    a
    great story just in itself, one perhaps for another day...) the only 3
    items i genuinely took away from college being weed, lsd & my first real
    girlfriend lol, a year after which i dropped-out altogether and which i
    considered was plenty enough education for moi, the rest was rubbish ;)

    and whereas you kinda look down on weed and from what you say above:
    don't
    think that much of it etc, i'm completely the opposite and see it as
    having been instrumental in shaping not only my whole outlook but also
    my
    later education to a higher degree... kind of like a tv interview i saw
    years ago about our controversial channel-4 sending one of their indian
    reporters to the indian mela festival, something that takes place every
    year in india and then you see all these holy men covered in grey ashes
    traveling to it from right across india and beyond, every 33 years being
    some kind of special super-mela event having some kind of astrological
    significance to it, the same 33-year event the buddha is reputed to have
    attended back in his day and apparently caused quite a stir...

    so anyway, they packed this young naive uk-indian guy off to the mela to
    go see/report what it's all about, 100's of 1000's of these holy men
    descending/converging on the place like the muslims do at mecca only
    bigger! and this young indian reporter dressed in a dark 3-piece suit
    lol
    and his big channel-4 microphone, is going around asking all these holy
    men questions about what it's all about and why it's happening + what it
    all means etc etc etc... and at one point asks this typical looking dude
    he was interviewing why he was smoking hashish so heavily (everyone in
    the
    tent is literally chuffing-away on chillums and pipes and stuff like
    there's no tomorrow lol) and doesn't all that drug-taking interfere
    with/contradict all his holy man spiritual practices??

    and this holy-man dude pauses mid-puff in a cloud of thick smoke, looks
    up
    surprised at this reporter, a look of humorous scorn clearly crossing
    his
    face for a moment and almost rolling his eyes, replies: my young man,
    don't be so stupid, don't you 'realise' it was smoking hashish that
    turned
    me INTO a holy man in the first place??? you should try it!

    and then he went back to honking heavily on his chillum ahahaha... our
    young reporter looking clearly dazed/shocked, not only from that guy's
    rather surprising remarks but prolly also from all the thick fumes lol
    :)))

    get it?

    that for 'some' people it's a total lifestyle, one that may or may not
    eventually turn ya's into some kinda holy man hehehe...

    go figure ;)

    Smoking pot is so mundane now for me that I need a reason, not just
    get stoned, but something along the lines of better sleep, or
    elucidation of rational thinking, deeper enjoyment of music, better
    enjoyment and appreciation of nature - colour, form, evolution etc;
    pondering beginnings, endings, time, space, metaphysics...and so on.

    Or, very very occasionally, just get drunk and stoned and fuck myself
    up (within the bounds of a 70 year old body) with music until I totter
    off to bed.

    It's just...mundane. The thrill of illegality is gone, partly due to
    age partly due to ease of legal acquisition. The effect is well
    known, nothing new there experientially. So, it's just a herb with interesting effects.

    There is no way on this planet I would adopt it now, or even 50 years
    ago, as a "total lifestyle". That's for some people as you say but
    not for me. But as a permanent part of MY lifestyle, it's there to
    stay.

    In a nutshell, I find it enjoyable and I've been smoking it since I
    was 16. It's still mundane though.

    ### - think of people like Howard Marks (Mr Nice) whose whole life
    revolved around it, the uk's most notorious dealer, who ended-up having a
    very different kinda outlook on life & living in general, ditto a whole
    heap of other characters whose involvement (with drugs) led them down a
    very different road of life-appreciation and style, the holy men of india
    being the original hippies in that sense, only it's all about
    self-development & spiritual advancement with those guys ("it was hashish
    that turned me INTO a holy man" etc) it's influence on western people & thinking being undoubtedly the same, and the next thing ya know young
    people are rejecting the establishment (the squares heh) en-mass and
    setting-up their own, very much more relaxed, lifestyle altogether...

    and there in a nutshell is its effect upon people: it changed their whole outlook on life, broadened it, gave them a deeper appreciation of it...
    society was altered, even the music changed from things like perry fucking
    como to pink floyd haha, it was different, some say much better, more open
    and less insular, and a direct challenge to society... the squares
    fought-back of course, tried to quash/contain it, but a whole generation
    grew up more or less under it's influence, a generation of very different thinking people, ideas like 'make love not war' and 'free love' entered
    western thought, the poets, writers and artists coming out of that
    generation affecting the whole world!

    i've known dealers whose whole life revolved around it! :)

    memes like: "dope will get you through times of no money better than money
    will get you through times of no dope", basically saying it all...

    mundane otoh, is square-business... wearing a suit and tie is mundane,

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  • From He Who Sees All@1:229/2 to All on Wednesday, January 15, 2025 19:02:53
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    is,
    however, a promising new industry with the potential to earn billions! >>>>>
    they want/need the money! so all we really gots to do is to live long >>>>> enough to see it legalised for recreational use, it's just annoying
    that
    everything takes so long, have been waiting 30+ years haha ;)

    Look I'm not a kid anymore. I barely remember my youth. I'm happy to >>>> have a pipe, and not much more than a puff or two, at night. I
    couldn't imagine being stoned on grass all the time, nothing would be
    worse now at my age. Also, too much water under the bridge which
    doesn't lead to a real carefree existence all the time, some of the
    time yes, but not all the time. Stoned on weed is good when the
    mental burden is light, not when it's heavy.

    So, to me there isn't any difference now between legal recreational
    weed and medical weed - it's the same weed, imported from all over the >>>> world, not much grown here in Australia, high THC if you want it, not
    much on the expenditure side either.

    I've slowed down a lot as I got old(er). Still sharp but far more
    serious about things. No longer the 1973 hippy with the mushroom
    jeans on tripping on acid and smoking a lot of pot.

    ### - was only being kinda sarcastic re waiting until it's legalised
    etc,
    they've been talking about that nearly forever here in the uk, ever
    since
    it was banned in fact back in 1947 or thereabouts, the uk being one of
    the
    last to make it illegal and only under protest at the time seeing as
    they'd virtually raised a whole empire off the profits of
    importing/exporting dope worldwide (cough-cough, sorry i meant 'spices', >>> riiight...) ;)

    otherwise you and i are very different then in that respect, because for >>> someone you accused of knowing nada about it altogether i've actually
    smoked it near enough every single day since age 17 or thereabouts after >>> being introduced to it at college heh (how that happened actually being
    a
    great story just in itself, one perhaps for another day...) the only 3
    items i genuinely took away from college being weed, lsd & my first real >>> girlfriend lol, a year after which i dropped-out altogether and which i
    considered was plenty enough education for moi, the rest was rubbish ;)

    and whereas you kinda look down on weed and from what you say above:
    don't
    think that much of it etc, i'm completely the opposite and see it as
    having been instrumental in shaping not only my whole outlook but also
    my
    later education to a higher degree... kind of like a tv interview i saw
    years ago about our controversial channel-4 sending one of their indian
    reporters to the indian mela festival, something that takes place every
    year in india and then you see all these holy men covered in grey ashes
    traveling to it from right across india and beyond, every 33 years being >>> some kind of special super-mela event having some kind of astrological
    significance to it, the same 33-year event the buddha is reputed to have >>> attended back in his day and apparently caused quite a stir...

    so anyway, they packed this young naive uk-indian guy off to the mela to >>> go see/report what it's all about, 100's of 1000's of these holy men
    descending/converging on the place like the muslims do at mecca only
    bigger! and this young indian reporter dressed in a dark 3-piece suit
    lol
    and his big channel-4 microphone, is going around asking all these holy
    men questions about what it's all about and why it's happening + what it >>> all means etc etc etc... and at one point asks this typical looking dude >>> he was interviewing why he was smoking hashish so heavily (everyone in
    the
    tent is literally chuffing-away on chillums and pipes and stuff like
    there's no tomorrow lol) and doesn't all that drug-taking interfere
    with/contradict all his holy man spiritual practices??

    and this holy-man dude pauses mid-puff in a cloud of thick smoke, looks
    up
    surprised at this reporter, a look of humorous scorn clearly crossing
    his
    face for a moment and almost rolling his eyes, replies: my young man,
    don't be so stupid, don't you 'realise' it was smoking hashish that
    turned
    me INTO a holy man in the first place??? you should try it!

    and then he went back to honking heavily on his chillum ahahaha... our
    young reporter looking clearly dazed/shocked, not only from that guy's
    rather surprising remarks but prolly also from all the thick fumes lol
    :)))

    get it?

    that for 'some' people it's a total lifestyle, one that may or may not
    eventually turn ya's into some kinda holy man hehehe...

    go figure ;)

    Smoking pot is so mundane now for me that I need a reason, not just
    get stoned, but something along the lines of better sleep, or
    elucidation of rational thinking, deeper enjoyment of music, better
    enjoyment and appreciation of nature - colour, form, evolution etc;
    pondering beginnings, endings, time, space, metaphysics...and so on.

    Or, very very occasionally, just get drunk and stoned and fuck myself
    up (within the bounds of a 70 year old body) with music until I totter
    off to bed.

    It's just...mundane. The thrill of illegality is gone, partly due to
    age partly due to ease of legal acquisition. The effect is well
    known, nothing new there experientially. So, it's just a herb with
    interesting effects.

    There is no way on this planet I would adopt it now, or even 50 years
    ago, as a "total lifestyle". That's for some people as you say but
    not for me. But as a permanent part of MY lifestyle, it's there to
    stay.

    In a nutshell, I find it enjoyable and I've been smoking it since I
    was 16. It's still mundane though.

    ### - think of people like Howard Marks (Mr Nice) whose whole life
    revolved around it, the uk's most notorious dealer, who ended-up having a >very different kinda outlook on life & living in general, ditto a whole
    heap of other characters whose involvement (with drugs) led them down a
    very different road of life-appreciation and style, the holy men of india >being the original hippies in that sense, only it's all about >self-development & spiritual advancement with those guys ("it was hashish >that turned me INTO a holy man" etc) it's influence on western people & >thinking being undoubtedly the same, and the next thing ya know young
    people are rejecting the establishment (the squares heh) en-mass and >setting-up their own, very much more relaxed, lifestyle altogether...

    and there in a nutshell is its effect upon people: it changed their whole >outlook on life, broadened it, gave them a deeper appreciation of it... >society was altered, even the music changed from things like perry fucking >como to pink floyd haha, it was different, some say much better, more open >and less insular, and a direct challenge to society... the squares >fought-back of course, tried to quash/contain it, but a whole generation
    grew up more or less under it's influence, a generation of very different >thinking people, ideas like 'make love not war' and 'free love' entered >western thought, the poets, writers and artists coming out of that

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  • From slider@1:229/2 to theBeach@cairo.ankh.io on Wednesday, January 15, 2025 21:36:47
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    available, order, pay online and delivered to the front door (in my >>>>>>> case from Melbourne, 4000km away) in 2 days.

    Give it a belt pal. You won't regret it. If that is, you have
    insomnia or something similar and you've seen a quack about it.

    My script is for 1 gram per day. 30g per month. That's a lot of >>>>>>> high
    quality shit. Costing around $280 AUD per 30g. No more dealers >>>>>>> for
    us.

    Cheers, have a great New Year.

    ### - i hear you :) and have seen the adverts for these various
    companies
    online, the whole thing being a ruse to gradually sneak weed usage >>>>>> into
    society by the backdoor until it's eventually legalised en-mass,
    what
    they're scared of being a kind of hippy-rebirth, weed/smoke use
    giving
    rise to yet another alternate philosophy that, just like lucid
    dreaming,
    doesn't quite jibe with the way society's currently organised... it >>>>>> is,
    however, a promising new industry with the potential to earn
    billions!

    they want/need the money! so all we really gots to do is to live
    long
    enough to see it legalised for recreational use, it's just annoying >>>>>> that
    everything takes so long, have been waiting 30+ years haha ;)

    Look I'm not a kid anymore. I barely remember my youth. I'm happy
    to
    have a pipe, and not much more than a puff or two, at night. I
    couldn't imagine being stoned on grass all the time, nothing would be >>>>> worse now at my age. Also, too much water under the bridge which
    doesn't lead to a real carefree existence all the time, some of the
    time yes, but not all the time. Stoned on weed is good when the
    mental burden is light, not when it's heavy.

    So, to me there isn't any difference now between legal recreational
    weed and medical weed - it's the same weed, imported from all over
    the
    world, not much grown here in Australia, high THC if you want it, not >>>>> much on the expenditure side either.

    I've slowed down a lot as I got old(er). Still sharp but far more
    serious about things. No longer the 1973 hippy with the mushroom
    jeans on tripping on acid and smoking a lot of pot.

    ### - was only being kinda sarcastic re waiting until it's legalised
    etc,
    they've been talking about that nearly forever here in the uk, ever
    since
    it was banned in fact back in 1947 or thereabouts, the uk being one of >>>> the
    last to make it illegal and only under protest at the time seeing as
    they'd virtually raised a whole empire off the profits of
    importing/exporting dope worldwide (cough-cough, sorry i meant
    'spices',
    riiight...) ;)

    otherwise you and i are very different then in that respect, because
    for
    someone you accused of knowing nada about it altogether i've actually
    smoked it near enough every single day since age 17 or thereabouts
    after
    being introduced to it at college heh (how that happened actually
    being
    a
    great story just in itself, one perhaps for another day...) the only 3 >>>> items i genuinely took away from college being weed, lsd & my first
    real
    girlfriend lol, a year after which i dropped-out altogether and which
    i
    considered was plenty enough education for moi, the rest was rubbish
    ;)

    and whereas you kinda look down on weed and from what you say above:
    don't
    think that much of it etc, i'm completely the opposite and see it as
    having been instrumental in shaping not only my whole outlook but also >>>> my
    later education to a higher degree... kind of like a tv interview i
    saw
    years ago about our controversial channel-4 sending one of their
    indian
    reporters to the indian mela festival, something that takes place
    every
    year in india and then you see all these holy men covered in grey
    ashes
    traveling to it from right across india and beyond, every 33 years
    being
    some kind of special super-mela event having some kind of astrological >>>> significance to it, the same 33-year event the buddha is reputed to
    have
    attended back in his day and apparently caused quite a stir...

    so anyway, they packed this young naive uk-indian guy off to the mela
    to
    go see/report what it's all about, 100's of 1000's of these holy men
    descending/converging on the place like the muslims do at mecca only
    bigger! and this young indian reporter dressed in a dark 3-piece suit
    lol
    and his big channel-4 microphone, is going around asking all these
    holy
    men questions about what it's all about and why it's happening + what
    it
    all means etc etc etc... and at one point asks this typical looking
    dude
    he was interviewing why he was smoking hashish so heavily (everyone in >>>> the
    tent is literally chuffing-away on chillums and pipes and stuff like
    there's no tomorrow lol) and doesn't all that drug-taking interfere
    with/contradict all his holy man spiritual practices??

    and this holy-man dude pauses mid-puff in a cloud of thick smoke,
    looks
    up
    surprised at this reporter, a look of humorous scorn clearly crossing
    his
    face for a moment and almost rolling his eyes, replies: my young man,
    don't be so stupid, don't you 'realise' it was smoking hashish that
    turned
    me INTO a holy man in the first place??? you should try it!

    and then he went back to honking heavily on his chillum ahahaha... our >>>> young reporter looking clearly dazed/shocked, not only from that guy's >>>> rather surprising remarks but prolly also from all the thick fumes lol >>>> :)))

    get it?

    that for 'some' people it's a total lifestyle, one that may or may not >>>> eventually turn ya's into some kinda holy man hehehe...

    go figure ;)

    Smoking pot is so mundane now for me that I need a reason, not just
    get stoned, but something along the lines of better sleep, or
    elucidation of rational thinking, deeper enjoyment of music, better
    enjoyment and appreciation of nature - colour, form, evolution etc;
    pondering beginnings, endings, time, space, metaphysics...and so on.

    Or, very very occasionally, just get drunk and stoned and fuck myself
    up (within the bounds of a 70 year old body) with music until I totter
    off to bed.

    It's just...mundane. The thrill of illegality is gone, partly due to
    age partly due to ease of legal acquisition. The effect is well
    known, nothing new there experientially. So, it's just a herb with
    interesting effects.

    There is no way on this planet I would adopt it now, or even 50 years
    ago, as a "total lifestyle". That's for some people as you say but
    not for me. But as a permanent part of MY lifestyle, it's there to
    stay.

    In a nutshell, I find it enjoyable and I've been smoking it since I
    was 16. It's still mundane though.

    ### - think of people like Howard Marks (Mr Nice) whose whole life
    revolved around it, the uk's most notorious dealer, who ended-up having
    a

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