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    From slider@1:229/2 to All on Tuesday, September 21, 2021 16:37:50
    From: slider@anashram.com

    ### - this quite long article contains these next couple of particular paragraphs, something that imho spells things out quite nicely when it
    comes to what the world often finds itself up against and always but
    always ignores at its peril...

    (full article here) https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2021/09/justice-for-j6-rally-capitol-dc-trump-jason-stanley-interview.html


    (Q) What is the long game here?

    The long game is the 2022 elections and the 2024 election. That’s what all these election laws are about. When you win the mainstream, you don’t need the rebel. They’re conquering the Republican Party and they’re slowly taking over the election system.

    (Q) Not every Republican is completely in line with Trump. Adam Kinzinger
    and Liz Cheney come to mind. Don’t they still have some sway in the party?

    These authoritarian movements, they’re always purging people inside the party. The goal of fascism is the cult of the leader, to create this
    constant sense that the leader is in battles, the leader has been wronged,
    and so there’s enemies everywhere. So they’re turning on those who are not sufficiently loyal within the Republican Party and purging them. That’s
    just how it works, because the goal is to create a cult of the leader. And
    this is about loyalty to Trump or loyalty to whatever authoritarian leader might take his place. The Republicans have openly decided to be an anti-democratic, far-right extremist party, with no loyalty to democracy.
    They see the writing on the wall that they’re going to be a minority
    party, and so they’re going to end democracy to seize power, and what you need to do that is this endless paranoia, which we see. Endless paranoia
    that the woke left are communist authoritarians, endless paranoia that you
    have enemies within.

    (Q) What do you say to folks who might think this is alarmist? What are
    you basing this on?

    I’m basing it on history. Let’s remember, democracy is something that is very rare in human history and it’s not stable. Plato says about democracy
    in book eight of the Republic, “A leader will come, he will spread fear,
    he will gather supporters by telling them he’s the only one who can
    protect them from the internal enemy.” This is the way democracy falls. So
    in political philosophy dating back to Plato, democracy is susceptible to
    being taken over by a demagogic tyrant who creates blind, total loyalty in
    his supporters, using fear and a kind of sadism that Trumpists will call “owning the libs.” So Trump sells himself to his supporters by saying, “Look how much they hate me. Don’t you want to make them squirm by
    electing me?” It’s all about making them squirm. It’s not about having a better country. And here, the history of fascism is helpful. It was about
    total war against enemy and it doesn’t matter what the consequences to the country are.

    ***

    and there ya have it... only 2 or 3 generations after the 'last' time it happened, people have almost completely forgotten the TROUBLE this KINDA
    shit ALWAYS leads to??

    perforce there's societal + psychological reasons for it! one only having
    to look at germany's history leading up to ww2 to grasp/see it, and as is described quite adequately in the above paragraphs...

    i.e., 'fascism' is always a definite... no-no! - we KNOW that!

    so then the only problem is in 'identifying' it whenever it rears its
    hoary head ;)

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  • From LowRider44M@1:229/2 to slider on Wednesday, September 22, 2021 20:05:22
    From: intraphase@gmail.com

    On Tuesday, September 21, 2021 at 11:37:58 AM UTC-4, slider wrote:
    ### - this quite long article contains these next couple of particular paragraphs, something that imho spells things out quite nicely when it
    comes to what the world often finds itself up against and always but
    always ignores at its peril...

    (full article here) https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2021/09/justice-for-j6-rally-capitol-dc-trump-jason-stanley-interview.html


    (Q) What is the long game here?

    The long game is the 2022 elections and the 2024 election. That’s what all these election laws are about. When you win the mainstream, you don’t need the rebel. They’re conquering the Republican Party and they’re slowly taking over the election system.

    (Q) Not every Republican is completely in line with Trump. Adam Kinzinger and Liz Cheney come to mind. Don’t they still have some sway in the party?

    These authoritarian movements, they’re always purging people inside the party. The goal of fascism is the cult of the leader, to create this constant sense that the leader is in battles, the leader has been wronged, and so there’s enemies everywhere. So they’re turning on those who are not
    sufficiently loyal within the Republican Party and purging them. That’s just how it works, because the goal is to create a cult of the leader. And this is about loyalty to Trump or loyalty to whatever authoritarian leader might take his place. The Republicans have openly decided to be an anti-democratic, far-right extremist party, with no loyalty to democracy. They see the writing on the wall that they’re going to be a minority party, and so they’re going to end democracy to seize power, and what you need to do that is this endless paranoia, which we see. Endless paranoia that the woke left are communist authoritarians, endless paranoia that you have enemies within.

    (Q) What do you say to folks who might think this is alarmist? What are
    you basing this on?

    I’m basing it on history. Let’s remember, democracy is something that is very rare in human history and it’s not stable. Plato says about democracy in book eight of the Republic, “A leader will come, he will spread fear, he will gather supporters by telling them he’s the only one who can protect them from the internal enemy.” This is the way democracy falls. So in political philosophy dating back to Plato, democracy is susceptible to being taken over by a demagogic tyrant who creates blind, total loyalty in his supporters, using fear and a kind of sadism that Trumpists will call “owning the libs.” So Trump sells himself to his supporters by saying, “Look how much they hate me. Don’t you want to make them squirm by electing me?” It’s all about making them squirm. It’s not about having a
    better country. And here, the history of fascism is helpful. It was about total war against enemy and it doesn’t matter what the consequences to the country are.

    ***

    and there ya have it... only 2 or 3 generations after the 'last' time it happened, people have almost completely forgotten the TROUBLE this KINDA shit ALWAYS leads to??

    perforce there's societal + psychological reasons for it! one only having
    to look at germany's history leading up to ww2 to grasp/see it, and as is described quite adequately in the above paragraphs...

    i.e., 'fascism' is always a definite... no-no! - we KNOW that!

    so then the only problem is in 'identifying' it whenever it rears its
    hoary head ;)

    They used to make rugs from Jewish peoples hair.
    A lampshade made of Jewish skin was considered chic.
    Now they make vaccines from murdered children's flesh.
    Your the Nazi now Brian, your the Cult Leader now Brian.
    No amount of finger pointing at others changes your Eternal Totality.
    That is lost.

    4. Jesus said, "The person old in days won't hesitate to ask a
    little child seven days old about the place of life, and that
    person will live. For many of the first will be last, and will become
    a single one."

    Why did your boyfriend hang himself?

    Kashmir - Zeppelin
    https://youtu.be/hW_WLxseq0o

    Oh, let the sun beat down upon my face
    And stars fill my dream
    I'm a traveler of both time and space
    To be where I have been
    To sit with elders of the gentle race
    This world has seldom seen
    They talk of days for which they sit and wait
    All will be revealed
    Talk in song from tongues of lilting grace
    Sounds caress my ear
    And not a word I heard could I relate
    The story was quite clear
    Oh, baby, I been blind
    Oh, yeah, mama, there ain't no denyin'
    Oh, ooh yes, I been blind
    Mama, mama, ain't no denyin', no denyin'
    All I see turns to brown
    As the sun burns the ground
    And my eyes fill with sand
    As I scan this wasted land
    Try to find, try to find the way I feel
    Oh, pilot of the storm who leaves no trace
    Like sorts inside a dream
    Leave the path that led me to that place
    Yellow desert stream
    My shangri la beneath the summer moon
    I will return again
    As the dust that floats high in June
    We're moving through Kashmir
    Oh, father of the four winds fill my sails
    Cross the sea of years
    With no provision but an open face
    Along the straits of fear
    Oh, when I want, when I'm on my way, yeah
    And my feet wear my fickle way to stay
    Ooh, yeah yeah, oh, yeah yeah,
    But I'm down oh, yeah yeah, oh, yeah
    Yeah, but I'm down, so down
    Ooh, my baby, oh, my baby
    Let me take you there
    Come on, oh let me take you there
    Let me take you there

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  • From o'Mahoney@1:229/2 to intraphase@gmail.com on Monday, September 27, 2021 13:19:02
    From: libertidad@south.south.com

    On Wed, 22 Sep 2021 20:05:22 -0700 (PDT), LowRider44M
    <intraphase@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Tuesday, September 21, 2021 at 11:37:58 AM UTC-4, slider wrote:
    ### - this quite long article contains these next couple of particular
    paragraphs, something that imho spells things out quite nicely when it
    comes to what the world often finds itself up against and always but
    always ignores at its peril...

    (full article here)
    https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2021/09/justice-for-j6-rally-capitol-dc-trump-jason-stanley-interview.html


    (Q) What is the long game here?

    The long game is the 2022 elections and the 2024 election. That’s what all >> these election laws are about. When you win the mainstream, you don’t need >> the rebel. They’re conquering the Republican Party and they’re slowly
    taking over the election system.

    (Q) Not every Republican is completely in line with Trump. Adam Kinzinger
    and Liz Cheney come to mind. Don’t they still have some sway in the party? >>
    These authoritarian movements, they’re always purging people inside the
    party. The goal of fascism is the cult of the leader, to create this
    constant sense that the leader is in battles, the leader has been wronged, >> and so there’s enemies everywhere. So they’re turning on those who are not
    sufficiently loyal within the Republican Party and purging them. That’s
    just how it works, because the goal is to create a cult of the leader. And >> this is about loyalty to Trump or loyalty to whatever authoritarian leader >> might take his place. The Republicans have openly decided to be an
    anti-democratic, far-right extremist party, with no loyalty to democracy.
    They see the writing on the wall that they’re going to be a minority
    party, and so they’re going to end democracy to seize power, and what you >> need to do that is this endless paranoia, which we see. Endless paranoia
    that the woke left are communist authoritarians, endless paranoia that you >> have enemies within.

    (Q) What do you say to folks who might think this is alarmist? What are
    you basing this on?

    I’m basing it on history. Let’s remember, democracy is something that is >> very rare in human history and it’s not stable. Plato says about democracy >> in book eight of the Republic, “A leader will come, he will spread fear, >> he will gather supporters by telling them he’s the only one who can
    protect them from the internal enemy.” This is the way democracy falls. So >> in political philosophy dating back to Plato, democracy is susceptible to
    being taken over by a demagogic tyrant who creates blind, total loyalty in >> his supporters, using fear and a kind of sadism that Trumpists will call
    “owning the libs.” So Trump sells himself to his supporters by saying, >> “Look how much they hate me. Don’t you want to make them squirm by
    electing me?” It’s all about making them squirm. It’s not about having a
    better country. And here, the history of fascism is helpful. It was about
    total war against enemy and it doesn’t matter what the consequences to the >> country are.

    ***

    and there ya have it... only 2 or 3 generations after the 'last' time it
    happened, people have almost completely forgotten the TROUBLE this KINDA
    shit ALWAYS leads to??

    perforce there's societal + psychological reasons for it! one only having
    to look at germany's history leading up to ww2 to grasp/see it, and as is
    described quite adequately in the above paragraphs...

    i.e., 'fascism' is always a definite... no-no! - we KNOW that!

    so then the only problem is in 'identifying' it whenever it rears its
    hoary head ;)

    They used to make rugs from Jewish peoples hair.
    A lampshade made of Jewish skin was considered chic.
    Now they make vaccines from murdered children's flesh.
    Your the Nazi now Brian, your the Cult Leader now Brian.
    No amount of finger pointing at others changes your Eternal Totality.
    That is lost.

    4. Jesus said, "The person old in days won't hesitate to ask a
    little child seven days old about the place of life, and that
    person will live. For many of the first will be last, and will become
    a single one."

    Why did your boyfriend hang himself?

    Arthur, I'm still waiting for the meek to inherit the earth (or was it
    the humble?)




    Kashmir - Zeppelin
    https://youtu.be/hW_WLxseq0o

    Oh, let the sun beat down upon my face
    And stars fill my dream
    I'm a traveler of both time and space
    To be where I have been
    To sit with elders of the gentle race
    This world has seldom seen
    They talk of days for which they sit and wait
    All will be revealed
    Talk in song from tongues of lilting grace
    Sounds caress my ear
    And not a word I heard could I relate
    The story was quite clear
    Oh, baby, I been blind
    Oh, yeah, mama, there ain't no denyin'
    Oh, ooh yes, I been blind
    Mama, mama, ain't no denyin', no denyin'
    All I see turns to brown
    As the sun burns the ground
    And my eyes fill with sand
    As I scan this wasted land
    Try to find, try to find the way I feel
    Oh, pilot of the storm who leaves no trace
    Like sorts inside a dream
    Leave the path that led me to that place
    Yellow desert stream
    My shangri la beneath the summer moon
    I will return again
    As the dust that floats high in June
    We're moving through Kashmir
    Oh, father of the four winds fill my sails
    Cross the sea of years
    With no provision but an open face
    Along the straits of fear
    Oh, when I want, when I'm on my way, yeah
    And my feet wear my fickle way to stay
    Ooh, yeah yeah, oh, yeah yeah,
    But I'm down oh, yeah yeah, oh, yeah
    Yeah, but I'm down, so down
    Ooh, my baby, oh, my baby
    Let me take you there
    Come on, oh let me take you there
    Let me take you there

    Kashmir is the best of the best of Led Zep. Peerless.
    Have you seen the live version here? 120M views.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PD-MdiUm1_Y


    Jimmy Page in this. Age never slowed him down. The things he's
    seen...


    --
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  • From chris rodgers@1:229/2 to All on Monday, September 27, 2021 07:11:49
    From: allreadydun@gmail.com

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvCH-6kOAGs

    it's not in your head, nope, you won't find it there.
    look to your heart a little, get the feelin' boy.
    here's a group who was on the right track.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: www.darkrealms.ca (1:229/2)
  • From slider@1:229/2 to All on Monday, September 27, 2021 23:41:41
    From: slider@anashram.com

    teeters back over towards the left again wrote...

    it's not in your head, nope, you won't find it there.
    look to your heart a little, get the feelin' boy.

    ### - there is no... spoon ;)

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  • From chris rodgers@1:229/2 to All on Tuesday, September 28, 2021 08:57:12
    From: allreadydun@gmail.com

    no one is doing it to you

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7xRW9ByClE

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  • From slider@1:229/2 to staggers too far left on Wednesday, September 29, 2021 09:29:55
    From: slider@anashram.com

    staggers too far left wrote :D

    no one is doing it to you

    ### - if you're playin' spot the loonie then THAT one's a real humdinger
    LOL ! :)))

    coz LIZARDS (fuckin' lizards! lol) are doin' it to EVERYONE according to
    HIM???

    he used to be a footballer, and then a sports commentator before goin' completely fuckin' nuts haha :))))

    (dunno what he's been smokin' heh, but wouldn't mind gettin' hold of some
    of it as he obviously just can't handle the good stuff) :D

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