• No More Mr. Nice Guy - A Hot Cup Of Joe

    From LowRider44M@1:229/2 to All on Monday, September 13, 2021 21:40:37
    From: intraphase@gmail.com

    Johnny Cash - When The Man Comes
    https://youtu.be/k9IfHDi-2EA

    []

    Science Denied: The Biden Vaccine Mandate

    President Biden has decided to go hard on the virus. No more Mr. Nice Guy.

    Sadly for him, those tiny little pathogens don’t pay taxes, don’t vote, don’t have Social Security numbers, can’t be drafted, and don’t answer phone calls from poll takers, which is to say that he and his agencies cannot really control them.
    That must be frustrating, poor man.

    Instead his plan is to control what he can control: people, and, most immediately, federal workers and the employees of large regulated companies. For him, the key to crushing the virus is the vaccine. Not enough people are obeying his demand for near-
    universal vaccination

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/science-denied-biden-vaccine-mandate

    In a maniacal move of wild desperation – or as an excuse to try out the most extreme powers of his office – he is using every weapon that he believes he has to assure compliance with his dream of injecting as many arms as possible. Only then will we
    crush the virus, all thanks to his leadership, all the complaints about “freedom” be damned – and never mind that the realization of his dream did not work in Israel or the UK.

    What are the immediate problems here? At least five:

    1. The Biden mandate pretends that the only immunity is injected, not natural. And so it has been from the beginning of this pandemic, even though all science for at least a year – actually you can say centuries – contradicts that. Indeed, we’
    ve known about natural immunity since 400 B.C when Thucydides first wrote of the great Athens plague that revealed that “they knew the course of the disease and were themselves free from apprehension.” Biden’s mandate could affect 80 million people
    but far more than that have likely been exposed and gained robust immunity regardless of vaccination status.

    2. This natural immunity is long-lasting and broad, and we’ve known that since last year when the first studies revealed it. You can say that the addition of a vaccine provides even more but it’s new and untested relative to most drugs approved
    by regulators, and many people are concerned about possible side effects of this vaccine that was approved much faster than any drug in my lifetime – and there is not one living human being in a position to say with certainty that these skeptics are
    wrong.

    3. The mandate presumes that everyone is equally susceptible to severe outcomes from getting exposed to the virus, which we’ve known is not true since at least February 2020. In this entire 18-month fiasco, we’ve not seen any serious high-level
    communication about the huge range of demographic gradients in infection based on both age and overall health. This ignorance is a consequence of poor public-health messaging, and is grossly irresponsible. The aggregated mandate from the Biden
    administration ignores this completely, as did the models that suggested lockdowns in the event of a virus from the Spring of 2020.

    4. Biden seems still of the belief that vaccines stop infection (he claimed this many times) and spread but we know with certainty that this is not the case, and even the CDC admits it. The best guess at this point is that it can help in preventing
    hospitalization and death but this experiment is still in its early stages, and the relationship between cause and effect in human affairs is not as easy as throwing around two data sets and saying one caused the other. Most cases in the developed world
    now are occurring among the vaccinated – and we all know this because we have vaccinated friends who got Covid anyway. Some have died. We are not idiots, contrary to what the Biden administration believes. Nor do any of us have all the knowledge and
    answers. And it is precisely because science is uncertain that the decisions surrounding it need to be decentralized, depoliticized, and open to correction rather than being imposed by top-down mandates.

    5. Biden’s order flies in the face of basic human freedoms and rights. There is no other way to put it. And it is this fact that is the most prescient for the multitudes who are right now seething in anger that one man who happens to hold power can
    make health decisions for the whole population regardless of their perfectly rational judgements. When the needle filled with liquid is forced into the arms of people who either have natural immunities or do not fear exposure to the pathogen, it gets
    personal, and people get really mad, especially after they are still forced into masks and denied other essential rights.

    Truth is that my phone has been blowing up all evening since Biden’s speech. People are demoralized, panicked, furious, and even at the point of losing it completely over this despotic moment in which we are living. Most of us believed that we live in
    a scientific age in which information would be broadly disseminated to the world and this technology would somehow prevent us as a society from falling prey to charlatans, mob mysticism, and brutal methods of population control, not to mention to the
    deployment of superstitious talismans and quackery. That turns out not to be true, and this is perhaps the greatest shock of all.

    Scientists worked for many hundreds of years to understand pathogens. They worked to understand their effect on the body, the range of susceptibility to both infection and severe outcomes, the demographics of vulnerability, the means by which we come to
    be protected from them, and the opportunities and limits available to people to protect themselves and others. After all this, humanity put together institutions that protected human freedom, individual rights, and public health, while preserving peace
    and prosperity in the best of times.

    In the last 18 months, all that hard work and knowledge seems to have been shredded, replaced by superstition masquerading as some kind of new science of social and pathogenic control. In this year and a half, we’ve observed no clear successes and
    unrelenting flops. One year ago, humanity had the opportunity to embrace the wisdom of the Great Barrington Declaration to protect the vulnerable while letting society otherwise function. Governments instead chose the path of ignorance and violence. The
    list is long but it includes: travel restrictions, capacity limits, business closures, school shutdowns, mask mandates, forced human separation (“social distancing”), and now mandates of vaccination that, quite apparently, vast numbers do not want.

    It’s all designed so that governments can prove to the world that they are powerful enough, smart enough, educated enough to outsmart and manage any living organism, even an invisible one that has been part of the human experience since humans had
    experiences. In this, they have completely failed – in more ways than it is possible to count.

    We keep thinking that surely, surely, we will come to the end of this madness. I personally believed it would end the second week of March 2020. Instead, it gets worse and worse, the illusion of control having seized the barely functioning brains of the
    ruling classes of the world’s richest nations. If this doesn’t prove the astonishing stupidity of the world’s most powerful and educated, nothing else in history does.

    The great myth that has clouded our vision and our expectations has been that we as a people had progressed beyond the kind of statist shibboleths and fanatic brutality that define our age. The truth is that we are not.

    This very day, a Karen attacked me for being maskless. I looked at her and thought only of the poor people in Colonial America who dared being caught wearing buckled shoes and therefore running afoul of the sumptuary laws, or of the religious minorities
    in Medieval Europe who were scapegoated for every plague (look up the origins of the the phrase “poisoning the well”), or the demonization of rebels in the ancient Roman empire or the disapprobation of heretics in the hundreds of years that followed
    the fall of Rome.

    It is a mark of a primitive society to attribute to political compliance or noncompliance what rational science shows is a feature of the natural world. Why? Ignorance, maybe. Power ambitions, more likely. Scapegoating is apparently an eternal feature of
    the human experience. Governments seem particularly good at it, even when it is less believable than ever.

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  • From chris rodgers@1:229/2 to All on Tuesday, September 14, 2021 14:27:13
    From: allreadydun@gmail.com

    sorry to hear that Norm mcdonald
    passed today. one minute you're
    telling jokes in front of everyone and
    then next the coroner is zippin up your bag.
    you're only dancing on this earth for a short while.
    don't waste your time by writing stupid shit stuff
    in a dippy newsgroup that no one reads. :0


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  • From chris rodgers@1:229/2 to All on Tuesday, September 14, 2021 16:41:53
    From: allreadydun@gmail.com

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNFzfwLM72c

    last name standing, what else is there ?

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  • From LowRider44M@1:229/2 to chris rodgers on Tuesday, September 14, 2021 18:54:12
    From: intraphase@gmail.com

    On Tuesday, September 14, 2021 at 7:41:54 PM UTC-4, chris rodgers wrote:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNFzfwLM72c

    last name standing, what else is there ?

    Rockin In The Free World.
    https://youtu.be/WhjJLZDVRrA

    The USG wiped out my crypto accounts.
    We are close to a few trillion ship adjudication.
    Bush still thinks I'm Satan, Sigh :-(

    Lyrics
    There's colors on the street
    Red, white and blue
    People shufflin' their feet
    People sleepin' in their shoes
    But there's a warnin' sign on the road ahead
    There's a lot of people sayin' we'd be better off dead
    Don't feel like Satan, but I am to them
    So I try to forget it any way I can
    Keep on rockin' in the free world
    Keep on rockin' in the free world
    Keep on rockin' in the free world
    Keep on rockin' in the free world
    I see a woman in the night
    With a baby in her hand
    There's an old street light (near a garbage can)
    Near a garbage can (near a garbage can)
    And now she put the kid away and she's gone to get a hit
    She hates her life and what she's done to it
    There's one more kid that'll never go to school
    Never get to fall in love, never get to be cool
    Keep on rockin' in the free world
    Keep on rockin' in the free world
    Keep on rockin' in the free world
    Keep on rockin' in the free world
    We got a thousand points of light
    For the homeless man
    We got a kinder, gentler machine gun hand
    We got department stores and toilet paper
    Got Styrofoam boxes for the ozone layer
    Got a man of the people, says keep hope alive
    Got fuel to burn, got roads to drive
    Keep on rockin' in the free world
    Keep on rockin' in the free world
    Keep on rockin' in the free world
    Keep on rockin' in the free world

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  • From slider@1:229/2 to All on Wednesday, September 15, 2021 05:02:07
    From: slider@anashram.com

    ### - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DVu9vF5J3Y

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  • From slider@1:229/2 to All on Wednesday, September 15, 2021 04:45:53
    From: slider@anashram.com

    last name standing, what else is there ?

    ### - nada.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDGi0SZkgpI

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  • From LowRider44M@1:229/2 to slider on Wednesday, September 15, 2021 08:29:56
    From: intraphase@gmail.com

    On Wednesday, September 15, 2021 at 12:02:13 AM UTC-4, slider wrote:
    ### - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DVu9vF5J3Y

    That song sums up 72-75 for me.
    Sometimes I'd have a nice stable buzz.
    I'd be looking around, and could tell,
    who would survive and who would get
    bogged down, not realizing what a slog
    life can be, no matter where a person starts from.

    Have a good day B.

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  • From o'Mahoney@1:229/2 to intraphase@gmail.com on Friday, September 17, 2021 19:46:46
    From: libertidad@south.south.com

    On Mon, 13 Sep 2021 21:40:37 -0700 (PDT), LowRider44M
    <intraphase@gmail.com> wrote:


    Johnny Cash - When The Man Comes
    https://youtu.be/k9IfHDi-2EA

    []

    Science Denied: The Biden Vaccine Mandate

    President Biden has decided to go hard on the virus. No more Mr. Nice Guy.

    Sadly for him, those tiny little pathogens don’t pay taxes, don’t vote, don’t have Social Security numbers, can’t be drafted, and don’t answer phone calls from poll takers, which is to say that he and his agencies cannot really control them.
    That must be frustrating, poor man.

    Instead his plan is to control what he can control: people, and, most immediately, federal workers and the employees of large regulated companies. For him, the key to crushing the virus is the vaccine. Not enough people are obeying his demand for near-
    universal vaccination

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/science-denied-biden-vaccine-mandate

    In a maniacal move of wild desperation – or as an excuse to try out the most extreme powers of his office – he is using every weapon that he believes he has to assure compliance with his dream of injecting as many arms as possible. Only then will we
    crush the virus, all thanks to his leadership, all the complaints about “freedom”
    be damned – and never mind that the realization of his dream did not work in Israel or the UK.

    What are the immediate problems here? At least five:

    1. The Biden mandate pretends that the only immunity is injected, not natural. And so it has been from the beginning of this pandemic, even though all science for at least a year – actually you can say centuries – contradicts that. Indeed, we’
    ve known about natural immunity since 400 B.C when Thucydides first wrote of the
    great Athens plague that revealed that “they knew the course of the disease and were themselves free from apprehension.” Biden’s mandate could affect 80 million people but far more than that have likely been exposed and gained robust immunity
    regardless of vaccination status.

    2. This natural immunity is long-lasting and broad, and we’ve known that since last year when the first studies revealed it. You can say that the addition of a vaccine provides even more but it’s new and untested relative to most drugs approved
    by regulators, and many people are concerned about possible side effects of this
    vaccine that was approved much faster than any drug in my lifetime – and there is not one living human being in a position to say with certainty that these skeptics are wrong.

    3. The mandate presumes that everyone is equally susceptible to severe outcomes from getting exposed to the virus, which we’ve known is not true since at least February 2020. In this entire 18-month fiasco, we’ve not seen any serious high-level
    communication about the huge range of demographic gradients in infection based on
    both age and overall health. This ignorance is a consequence of poor public-health messaging, and is grossly irresponsible. The aggregated mandate from the Biden administration ignores this completely, as did the models that suggested lockdowns in the
    event of a virus from the Spring of 2020.

    4. Biden seems still of the belief that vaccines stop infection (he claimed this many times) and spread but we know with certainty that this is not the case, and even the CDC admits it. The best guess at this point is that it can help in preventing
    hospitalization and death but this experiment is still in its early stages, and the relationship between cause and effect in human affairs is not as easy as throwing around two data sets and saying one caused the other. Most cases in the developed world now are occurring among the vaccinated – and we all know this because we have
    vaccinated friends who got Covid anyway. Some have died. We are not idiots, contrary to what the Biden administration believes. Nor do any of us have all the knowledge and answers. And it is precisely because science is uncertain that the decisions surrounding it need to be decentralized, depoliticized, and open to correction
    rather than being imposed by top-down mandates.

    5. Biden’s order flies in the face of basic human freedoms and rights. There is no other way to put it. And it is this fact that is the most prescient for the multitudes who are right now seething in anger that one man who happens to hold power
    can make health decisions for the whole population regardless of their perfectly
    rational judgements. When the needle filled with liquid is forced into the arms of people who either have natural immunities or do not fear exposure to the pathogen, it gets personal, and people get really mad, especially after they are still forced into
    masks and denied other essential rights.

    Truth is that my phone has been blowing up all evening since Biden’s speech. People are demoralized, panicked, furious, and even at the point of losing it completely over this despotic moment in which we are living. Most of us believed that we live in
    a scientific age in which information would be broadly disseminated to the world
    and this technology would somehow prevent us as a society from falling prey to charlatans, mob mysticism, and brutal methods of population control, not to mention to the deployment of superstitious talismans and quackery. That turns out not to be true,
    and this is perhaps the greatest shock of all.

    Scientists worked for many hundreds of years to understand pathogens. They worked to understand their effect on the body, the range of susceptibility to both infection and severe outcomes, the demographics of vulnerability, the means by which we come to
    be protected from them, and the opportunities and limits available to people
    to protect themselves and others. After all this, humanity put together institutions that protected human freedom, individual rights, and public health, while preserving peace and prosperity in the best of times.

    In the last 18 months, all that hard work and knowledge seems to have been shredded, replaced by superstition masquerading as some kind of new science of social and pathogenic control. In this year and a half, we’ve observed no clear successes and
    unrelenting flops. One year ago, humanity had the opportunity to embrace the wisdom
    of the Great Barrington Declaration to protect the vulnerable while letting society otherwise function. Governments instead chose the path of ignorance and violence. The list is long but it includes: travel restrictions, capacity limits, business
    closures, school shutdowns, mask mandates, forced human separation (“social distancing”), and now mandates of vaccination that, quite apparently, vast numbers do not want.

    It’s all designed so that governments can prove to the world that they are powerful enough, smart enough, educated enough to outsmart and manage any living organism, even an invisible one that has been part of the human experience since humans had
    experiences. In this, they have completely failed – in more ways than it is possible
    to count.

    We keep thinking that surely, surely, we will come to the end of this madness. I personally believed it would end the second week of March 2020. Instead, it gets worse and worse, the illusion of control having seized the barely functioning brains of the
    ruling classes of the world’s richest nations. If this doesn’t prove the astonishing stupidity of the world’s most powerful and educated, nothing else in history does.

    The great myth that has clouded our vision and our expectations has been that we as a people had progressed beyond the kind of statist shibboleths and fanatic brutality that define our age. The truth is that we are not.

    This very day, a Karen attacked me for being maskless. I looked at her and thought only of the poor people in Colonial America who dared being caught wearing buckled shoes and therefore running afoul of the sumptuary laws, or of the religious minorities
    in Medieval Europe who were scapegoated for every plague (look up the origins of the the phrase “poisoning the well”), or the demonization of rebels in the ancient Roman empire or the disapprobation of heretics in the hundreds of years that followed the fall of Rome.

    It is a mark of a primitive society to attribute to political compliance or noncompliance what rational science shows is a feature of the natural world. Why? Ignorance, maybe. Power ambitions, more likely. Scapegoating is apparently an eternal feature
    of the human experience. Governments seem particularly good at it, even when it is less believable than ever.

    What a HUGE crock of shit. Shitstirrer.



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  • From o'Mahoney@1:229/2 to allreadydun@gmail.com on Saturday, September 18, 2021 08:40:16
    From: libertidad@south.south.com

    On Tue, 14 Sep 2021 14:27:13 -0700 (PDT), chris rodgers
    <allreadydun@gmail.com> wrote:

    sorry to hear that Norm mcdonald
    passed today. one minute you're
    telling jokes in front of everyone and
    then next the coroner is zippin up your bag.
    you're only dancing on this earth for a short while.
    don't waste your time by writing stupid shit stuff
    in a dippy newsgroup that no one reads. :0


    Lol.

    The reaper waits. Get your 10,000 steps in per day. Ward the cunt
    with the skullface off as long as you can. That's the game.

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  • From LowRider44M@1:229/2 to o'Mahoney on Saturday, September 18, 2021 09:10:25
    From: intraphase@gmail.com

    On Friday, September 17, 2021 at 7:46:48 AM UTC-4, o'Mahoney wrote:
    On Mon, 13 Sep 2021 21:40:37 -0700 (PDT), LowRider44M



    Johnny Cash - When The Man Comes
    https://youtu.be/k9IfHDi-2EA

    []

    Science Denied: The Biden Vaccine Mandate

    President Biden has decided to go hard on the virus. No more Mr. Nice Guy.

    Sadly for him, those tiny little pathogens don’t pay taxes, don’t vote, don’t have Social Security numbers, can’t be drafted, and don’t answer phone calls from poll takers, which is to say that he and his agencies cannot really control them.
    That must be frustrating, poor man.

    Instead his plan is to control what he can control: people, and, most immediately, federal workers and the employees of large regulated companies. For him, the key to crushing the virus is the vaccine. Not enough people are obeying his demand for near-
    universal vaccination

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/science-denied-biden-vaccine-mandate

    In a maniacal move of wild desperation – or as an excuse to try out the most extreme powers of his office – he is using every weapon that he believes he has to assure compliance with his dream of injecting as many arms as possible. Only then will
    we crush the virus, all thanks to his leadership, all the complaints about “freedom”
    be damned – and never mind that the realization of his dream did not work in Israel or the UK.

    What are the immediate problems here? At least five:

    1. The Biden mandate pretends that the only immunity is injected, not natural. And so it has been from the beginning of this pandemic, even though all science for at least a year – actually you can say centuries – contradicts that. Indeed, we’
    ve known about natural immunity since 400 B.C when Thucydides first wrote of the
    great Athens plague that revealed that “they knew the course of the disease and were themselves free from apprehension.” Biden’s mandate could affect 80 million people but far more than that have likely been exposed and gained robust immunity
    regardless of vaccination status.

    2. This natural immunity is long-lasting and broad, and we’ve known that since last year when the first studies revealed it. You can say that the addition of a vaccine provides even more but it’s new and untested relative to most drugs approved
    by regulators, and many people are concerned about possible side effects of this
    vaccine that was approved much faster than any drug in my lifetime – and there is not one living human being in a position to say with certainty that these skeptics are wrong.

    3. The mandate presumes that everyone is equally susceptible to severe outcomes from getting exposed to the virus, which we’ve known is not true since at least February 2020. In this entire 18-month fiasco, we’ve not seen any serious high-level
    communication about the huge range of demographic gradients in infection based on
    both age and overall health. This ignorance is a consequence of poor public-health messaging, and is grossly irresponsible. The aggregated mandate from the Biden administration ignores this completely, as did the models that suggested lockdowns in the
    event of a virus from the Spring of 2020.

    4. Biden seems still of the belief that vaccines stop infection (he claimed this many times) and spread but we know with certainty that this is not the case, and even the CDC admits it. The best guess at this point is that it can help in preventing
    hospitalization and death but this experiment is still in its early stages, and
    the relationship between cause and effect in human affairs is not as easy as throwing around two data sets and saying one caused the other. Most cases in the developed world now are occurring among the vaccinated – and we all know this because we
    have vaccinated friends who got Covid anyway. Some have died. We are not idiots,
    contrary to what the Biden administration believes. Nor do any of us have all the knowledge and answers. And it is precisely because science is uncertain that the decisions surrounding it need to be decentralized, depoliticized, and open to correction
    rather than being imposed by top-down mandates.

    5. Biden’s order flies in the face of basic human freedoms and rights. There is no other way to put it. And it is this fact that is the most prescient for the multitudes who are right now seething in anger that one man who happens to hold power can
    make health decisions for the whole population regardless of their perfectly
    rational judgements. When the needle filled with liquid is forced into the arms of people who either have natural immunities or do not fear exposure to the pathogen, it gets personal, and people get really mad, especially after they are still forced
    into masks and denied other essential rights.

    Truth is that my phone has been blowing up all evening since Biden’s speech. People are demoralized, panicked, furious, and even at the point of losing it completely over this despotic moment in which we are living. Most of us believed that we live
    in a scientific age in which information would be broadly disseminated to the world
    and this technology would somehow prevent us as a society from falling prey to charlatans, mob mysticism, and brutal methods of population control, not to mention to the deployment of superstitious talismans and quackery. That turns out not to be true,
    and this is perhaps the greatest shock of all.

    Scientists worked for many hundreds of years to understand pathogens. They worked to understand their effect on the body, the range of susceptibility to both infection and severe outcomes, the demographics of vulnerability, the means by which we come
    to be protected from them, and the opportunities and limits available to people
    to protect themselves and others. After all this, humanity put together institutions that protected human freedom, individual rights, and public health, while preserving peace and prosperity in the best of times.

    In the last 18 months, all that hard work and knowledge seems to have been shredded, replaced by superstition masquerading as some kind of new science of social and pathogenic control. In this year and a half, we’ve observed no clear successes and
    unrelenting flops. One year ago, humanity had the opportunity to embrace the wisdom
    of the Great Barrington Declaration to protect the vulnerable while letting society otherwise function. Governments instead chose the path of ignorance and violence. The list is long but it includes: travel restrictions, capacity limits, business
    closures, school shutdowns, mask mandates, forced human separation (“social
    distancing”), and now mandates of vaccination that, quite apparently, vast numbers do not want.

    It’s all designed so that governments can prove to the world that they are powerful enough, smart enough, educated enough to outsmart and manage any living organism, even an invisible one that has been part of the human experience since humans had
    experiences. In this, they have completely failed – in more ways than it is possible
    to count.

    We keep thinking that surely, surely, we will come to the end of this madness. I personally believed it would end the second week of March 2020. Instead, it gets worse and worse, the illusion of control having seized the barely functioning brains of
    the ruling classes of the world’s richest nations. If this doesn’t prove the
    astonishing stupidity of the world’s most powerful and educated, nothing else in history does.

    The great myth that has clouded our vision and our expectations has been that we as a people had progressed beyond the kind of statist shibboleths and fanatic brutality that define our age. The truth is that we are not.

    This very day, a Karen attacked me for being maskless. I looked at her and thought only of the poor people in Colonial America who dared being caught wearing buckled shoes and therefore running afoul of the sumptuary laws, or of the religious
    minorities in Medieval Europe who were scapegoated for every plague (look up the origins
    of the the phrase “poisoning the well”), or the demonization of rebels in the ancient Roman empire or the disapprobation of heretics in the hundreds of years that followed the fall of Rome.

    It is a mark of a primitive society to attribute to political compliance or noncompliance what rational science shows is a feature of the natural world. Why? Ignorance, maybe. Power ambitions, more likely. Scapegoating is apparently an eternal feature
    of the human experience. Governments seem particularly good at it, even when it
    is less believable than ever.
    What a HUGE crock of shit. Shitstirrer.



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  • From o'Mahoney@1:229/2 to intraphase@gmail.com on Monday, September 27, 2021 12:36:19
    From: libertidad@south.south.com

    On Sat, 18 Sep 2021 09:10:25 -0700 (PDT), LowRider44M
    <intraphase@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Friday, September 17, 2021 at 7:46:48 AM UTC-4, o'Mahoney wrote:
    On Mon, 13 Sep 2021 21:40:37 -0700 (PDT), LowRider44M



    Johnny Cash - When The Man Comes
    https://youtu.be/k9IfHDi-2EA

    []

    Science Denied: The Biden Vaccine Mandate

    President Biden has decided to go hard on the virus. No more Mr. Nice Guy. >> >
    Sadly for him, those tiny little pathogens don’t pay taxes, don’t vote, don’t have Social Security numbers, can’t be drafted, and don’t answer phone calls from poll takers, which is to say that he and his agencies cannot really control them.
    That must be frustrating, poor man.

    Instead his plan is to control what he can control: people, and, most immediately, federal workers and the employees of large regulated companies. For him, the key to crushing the virus is the vaccine. Not enough people are obeying his demand for
    near-universal vaccination

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/science-denied-biden-vaccine-mandate

    In a maniacal move of wild desperation – or as an excuse to try out the most extreme powers of his office – he is using every weapon that he believes he has to assure compliance with his dream of injecting as many arms as possible. Only then will
    we crush the virus, all thanks to his leadership, all the complaints about “freedom”
    be damned – and never mind that the realization of his dream did not work in Israel or the UK.

    What are the immediate problems here? At least five:

    1. The Biden mandate pretends that the only immunity is injected, not natural. And so it has been from the beginning of this pandemic, even though all science for at least a year – actually you can say centuries – contradicts that. Indeed, we’
    ve known about natural immunity since 400 B.C when Thucydides first wrote of the
    great Athens plague that revealed that “they knew the course of the disease and were themselves free from apprehension.” Biden’s mandate could affect 80 million people but far more than that have likely been exposed and gained robust immunity
    regardless of vaccination status.

    2. This natural immunity is long-lasting and broad, and we’ve known that since last year when the first studies revealed it. You can say that the addition of a vaccine provides even more but it’s new and untested relative to most drugs approved
    by regulators, and many people are concerned about possible side effects of this
    vaccine that was approved much faster than any drug in my lifetime – and there is not one living human being in a position to say with certainty that these skeptics are wrong.

    3. The mandate presumes that everyone is equally susceptible to severe outcomes from getting exposed to the virus, which we’ve known is not true since at least February 2020. In this entire 18-month fiasco, we’ve not seen any serious high-level
    communication about the huge range of demographic gradients in infection based on
    both age and overall health. This ignorance is a consequence of poor public-health messaging, and is grossly irresponsible. The aggregated mandate from the Biden administration ignores this completely, as did the models that suggested lockdowns in the
    event of a virus from the Spring of 2020.

    4. Biden seems still of the belief that vaccines stop infection (he claimed this many times) and spread but we know with certainty that this is not the case, and even the CDC admits it. The best guess at this point is that it can help in preventing
    hospitalization and death but this experiment is still in its early stages, and >> the relationship between cause and effect in human affairs is not as easy as throwing around two data sets and saying one caused the other. Most cases in the developed world now are occurring among the vaccinated – and we all know this because we
    have vaccinated friends who got Covid anyway. Some have died. We are not idiots,
    contrary to what the Biden administration believes. Nor do any of us have all the knowledge and answers. And it is precisely because science is uncertain that the decisions surrounding it need to be decentralized, depoliticized, and open to correction
    rather than being imposed by top-down mandates.

    5. Biden’s order flies in the face of basic human freedoms and rights. There is no other way to put it. And it is this fact that is the most prescient for the multitudes who are right now seething in anger that one man who happens to hold power
    can make health decisions for the whole population regardless of their perfectly
    rational judgements. When the needle filled with liquid is forced into the arms of people who either have natural immunities or do not fear exposure to the pathogen, it gets personal, and people get really mad, especially after they are still forced
    into masks and denied other essential rights.

    Truth is that my phone has been blowing up all evening since Biden’s speech. People are demoralized, panicked, furious, and even at the point of losing it completely over this despotic moment in which we are living. Most of us believed that we live
    in a scientific age in which information would be broadly disseminated to the world
    and this technology would somehow prevent us as a society from falling prey to charlatans, mob mysticism, and brutal methods of population control, not to mention to the deployment of superstitious talismans and quackery. That turns out not to be true,
    and this is perhaps the greatest shock of all.

    Scientists worked for many hundreds of years to understand pathogens. They worked to understand their effect on the body, the range of susceptibility to both infection and severe outcomes, the demographics of vulnerability, the means by which we come
    to be protected from them, and the opportunities and limits available to
    people
    to protect themselves and others. After all this, humanity put together institutions that protected human freedom, individual rights, and public health, while preserving peace and prosperity in the best of times.

    In the last 18 months, all that hard work and knowledge seems to have been shredded, replaced by superstition masquerading as some kind of new science of social and pathogenic control. In this year and a half, we’ve observed no clear successes and
    unrelenting flops. One year ago, humanity had the opportunity to embrace the wisdom
    of the Great Barrington Declaration to protect the vulnerable while letting society otherwise function. Governments instead chose the path of ignorance and violence. The list is long but it includes: travel restrictions, capacity limits, business
    closures, school shutdowns, mask mandates, forced human separation (“social >> distancing”), and now mandates of vaccination that, quite apparently, vast numbers do not want.

    It’s all designed so that governments can prove to the world that they are powerful enough, smart enough, educated enough to outsmart and manage any living organism, even an invisible one that has been part of the human experience since humans had
    experiences. In this, they have completely failed – in more ways than it is possible
    to count.

    We keep thinking that surely, surely, we will come to the end of this madness. I personally believed it would end the second week of March 2020. Instead, it gets worse and worse, the illusion of control having seized the barely functioning brains of
    the ruling classes of the world’s richest nations. If this doesn’t prove the
    astonishing stupidity of the world’s most powerful and educated, nothing else in history does.

    The great myth that has clouded our vision and our expectations has been that we as a people had progressed beyond the kind of statist shibboleths and fanatic brutality that define our age. The truth is that we are not.

    This very day, a Karen attacked me for being maskless. I looked at her and thought only of the poor people in Colonial America who dared being caught wearing buckled shoes and therefore running afoul of the sumptuary laws, or of the religious
    minorities in Medieval Europe who were scapegoated for every plague (look up the
    origins
    of the the phrase “poisoning the well”), or the demonization of rebels in the ancient Roman empire or the disapprobation of heretics in the hundreds of years that followed the fall of Rome.

    It is a mark of a primitive society to attribute to political compliance or noncompliance what rational science shows is a feature of the natural world. Why? Ignorance, maybe. Power ambitions, more likely. Scapegoating is apparently an eternal
    feature of the human experience. Governments seem particularly good at it, even when
    it
    is less believable than ever.
    What a HUGE crock of shit. Shitstirrer.



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