hey dm. is there a fix coming to the chat system?
Re: chat
By: The Millionaire to digital man on Tue Aug 13 2019 08:15 pm
hey dm. is there a fix coming to the chat system?
I'm not aware of something that needs fixing. Do you have a bug to report?
digital man
This Is Spinal Tap quote #36:
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hey dm. is there a fix coming to the chat system?
hey dm. is there a fix coming to the chat system?
Are questions in this area supposed to be addressed to DM?? Would that prevent all the useless derogatory feedback I get from other Dovenet users?
HusTler wrote to The Millionaire <=-
hey dm. is there a fix coming to the chat system?
Are questions in this area supposed to be addressed to DM??
Would that prevent all the useless derogatory feedback I get from
other Dovenet users?
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Re: chat
By: The Millionaire to digital man on Tue Aug 13 2019 20:15:30
hey dm. is there a fix coming to the chat system?
This is among the shittiest questions ever asked. Could you at least try
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Re: chat
By: The Millionaire to digital man on Tue Aug 13 2019 08:15 pm
hey dm. is there a fix coming to the chat system?
Are questions in this area supposed to be addressed to DM?? Would thatprevent all the useless derogatory feedback I get from other
Dovenet
users?
HusTler wrote to The Millionaire <=-
hey dm. is there a fix coming to the chat system?
Are questions in this area supposed to be addressed to DM??
No (but they can be).
Would that prevent all the useless derogatory feedback I get from
other Dovenet users?
No, what would prevent that is for you to not act like such a
douchebag.
Hope this helps!
... Ignorance can be cured. Stupid is forever.
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Re: chat
By: HusTler to The Millionaire on Wed Aug 14 2019 10:11:35
Are questions in this area supposed to be addressed to DM?? Would that
message to "All", unless you think only one specific person canDovenet users?
No. In most cases it's best (when starting a new thread) to post your
answer your question.that nobody else can/should/will respond. (I think we went
As these are public messages, the "To" field is informative but doesn't mean
over this recently.) Which is not to say that DM should be contactedprivately with all questions; there are usually some other people
around who can answer.of the replies that you receive.
Bear in mind that the tone of your message will often be echoed in the tone
thank you so much. i appreciate your compliments.
hey dm. is there a fix coming to the chat system?
a previous message was written about a guy who needed help on atcodes. dont see you slaughtering him about it.
Are questions in this area supposed to be addressed to DM?? Would that
prevent all the useless derogatory feedback I get from other Dovenet
users?
other people write to him too not only me so get off my case man.
Are questions in this area supposed to be addressed to DM??No (but they can be).
No, what would prevent that is for you to not act like such a
douchebag.
No, what would prevent that is for you to not act like such a
douchebag.
Learn how to speak English fuck wad.
Are questions in this area supposed to be addressed to DM?? Would that prevent all the useless derogatory feedback I get from other Dovenet users?
Are questions in this area supposed to be addressed to DM??
Re: chat
By: Digital Man to The Millionaire on Tue Aug 13 2019 08:18 pm
Re: chat
By: The Millionaire to digital man on Tue Aug 13 2019 08:15 pm
hey dm. is there a fix coming to the chat system?
I'm not aware of something that needs fixing. Do you have a bug to
well remember when we wanted to use an external chat program and it wouldnt run correctly?
Re: chatwouldnt run correctly?
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Wed Aug 14 2019 04:22 am
Re: chat
By: Digital Man to The Millionaire on Tue Aug 13 2019 08:18 pm
Re: chat
By: The Millionaire to digital man on Tue Aug 13 2019 08:15 pm
hey dm. is there a fix coming to the chat system?
I'm not aware of something that needs fixing. Do you have a bug to
well remember when we wanted to use an external chat program and it
I don't recall that. What were the details? And who's "we"?
digital man
This Is Spinal Tap quote #33:
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Re: chat
By: Digital Man to The Millionaire on Wed Aug 14 2019 02:15 pm
Re: chat
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Wed Aug 14 2019 04:22 am
Re: chat
By: Digital Man to The Millionaire on Tue Aug 13 2019 08:18 pm
Re: chat
By: The Millionaire to digital man on Tue Aug 13 2019 08:15 pm
hey dm. is there a fix coming to the chat system?
I'm not aware of something that needs fixing. Do you have a bug to
well remember when we wanted to use an external chat program and it wouldnt run correctly?
I don't recall that. What were the details? And who's "we"?
some sysops like me back in the last decade wanted to run icechat and it would like freeze up. it was weird.
HusTler wrote to Dan Clough <=-
No, what would prevent that is for you to not act like such a
douchebag.
Learn how to speak English fuck wad.
Re: chatto
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Wed Aug 14 2019 05:39 pm
Re: chat
By: Digital Man to The Millionaire on Wed Aug 14 2019 02:15 pm
Re: chat
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Wed Aug 14 2019 04:22 am
Re: chat
By: Digital Man to The Millionaire on Tue Aug 13 2019 08:18 pm
Re: chat
By: The Millionaire to digital man on Tue Aug 13 2019 08:15 pm
hey dm. is there a fix coming to the chat system?
I'm not aware of something that needs fixing. Do you have a bug
wouldnt run correctly?well remember when we wanted to use an external chat program and it
would like freeze up. it was weird.I don't recall that. What were the details? And who's "we"?
some sysops like me back in the last decade wanted to run icechat and it
That sounds like a problem with icechat, not the Synchronet "chat system".reported. Norco, CA WX: 90.7øF, 23.0% humidity, 9 mph NE wind, 0.00
digital man
This Is Spinal Tap quote #10:
Dozens of people spontaneously combust each year... just not widely
inches rain/24hrs
Re: chat
By: Digital Man to The Millionaire on Wed Aug 14 2019 06:09 pm
Re: chat
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Wed Aug 14 2019 05:39 pm
Re: chat
By: Digital Man to The Millionaire on Wed Aug 14 2019 02:15 pm
Re: chat
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Wed Aug 14 2019 04:22 am
Re: chat
By: Digital Man to The Millionaire on Tue Aug 13 2019 08:18 pm
Re: chat
By: The Millionaire to digital man on Tue Aug 13 2019 08:15 pm
hey dm. is there a fix coming to the chat system?
I'm not aware of something that needs fixing. Do you have a bug to
well remember when we wanted to use an external chat program and it wouldnt run correctly?
I don't recall that. What were the details? And who's "we"?
some sysops like me back in the last decade wanted to run icechat and it would like freeze up. it was weird.
That sounds like a problem with icechat, not the Synchronet "chat system".
but icechat worked on ra and ezycom flawlessly.
That sounds like a problem with icechat, not the Synchronet "chat
system".
but icechat worked on ra and ezycom flawlessly.
Re: chatpm
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Wed Aug 14 2019 06:54 pm
Re: chat
By: Digital Man to The Millionaire on Wed Aug 14 2019 06:09 pm
Re: chat
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Wed Aug 14 2019 05:39 pm
Re: chat
By: Digital Man to The Millionaire on Wed Aug 14 2019 02:15 pm
Re: chat
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Wed Aug 14 2019 04:22 am
Re: chat
By: Digital Man to The Millionaire on Tue Aug 13 2019 08:18
08:15 pmRe: chat
By: The Millionaire to digital man on Tue Aug 13 2019
a bug tohey dm. is there a fix coming to the chat system?
I'm not aware of something that needs fixing. Do you have
and it wouldnt run correctly?well remember when we wanted to use an external chat program
and it would like freeze up. it was weird.I don't recall that. What were the details? And who's "we"?
some sysops like me back in the last decade wanted to run icechat
system".That sounds like a problem with icechat, not the Synchronet "chat
does this have to do with the "chat system"?but icechat worked on ra and ezycom flawlessly.
Okay, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's a Synchronet problem. And what
digital man
This Is Spinal Tap quote #32:
Derek Smalls: [A jog?] We don't have time for that.
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Okay, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's a Synchronet problem. And what does this have to do with the "chat system"?
you had option for an external chat program but i havent seen one yet.
why is that?
some sysops like me back in the last decade wanted to run icechat and it would like freeze up. it was weird.
That sounds like a problem with icechat, not the Synchronet "chat
system".
There's External Sysop Chat Pagers in SCFG->Chat Features. And any external program configured in SCFG->External Programs->Online Programs can be configured for Execute on Event to be set to "Local/Sysop Chat".
Re: chat
By: Digital Man to The Millionaire on Wed Aug 14 2019 09:11 pm
There's External Sysop Chat Pagers in SCFG->Chat Features. And any external program configured in SCFG->External Programs->Online Programs can be configured for Execute on Event to be set to "Local/Sysop Chat".
Is that "Local/Sysop Chat" option new?
Maybe I missed it in the commit log
messages.. When I initially set up Synchronet, I thought about setting up IceChat as an external sysop-user chat door for when I broke into chat with a user, but at the time Synchronet didn't support that.
I remember seeing
it on your to-do list too. But it looks like that might be supported now?
Re: chatit would like freeze up. it was weird.
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Wed Aug 14 2019 05:39 pm
some sysops like me back in the last decade wanted to run icechat and
It would have been useful if you had included that information in youroriginal post about this.. There's a reason people tend to be
clueless about what you're asking and keep asking you for more information.feeling that's more a problem with IceChat.. Synchronet's
I've tried running IceChat, and after a while it would just quit. I have a
ownto use an external sysop-user chat tool, and I had it set up
chat system is fine.
When I used RemoteAccess back in the 90s, I remember RemoteAccess being able
tocould be useful.
use IceChat for that. Synchronet doesn't have a similar feature, but it
Nightfox
Re: chat
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Wed Aug 14 2019 06:54 pm
That sounds like a problem with icechat, not the Synchronet "chat
system".
Eh, I think that has more to do with the operating system it's running onthan the BBS software. The BBS software has no control over
themodern versions of Windows and Linux, and IceChat is an old DOS
stability of 3rd-party doors. These days, people are running BBSes on
door.something that makes it unstable on modern operating systems.
There's probably something with the way IceChat was written or built or
Nightfox
Re: chatexternal program configured in SCFG->External Programs->Online
By: Digital Man to The Millionaire on Wed Aug 14 2019 09:11 pm
There's External Sysop Chat Pagers in SCFG->Chat Features. And any
"Local/Sysop Chat".Programs can be configured for Execute on Event to be set to
Is that "Local/Sysop Chat" option new? Maybe I missed it in the commit logmessages.. When I initially set up Synchronet, I thought
aboutchat with a user, but at the time Synchronet didn't support
setting up IceChat as an external sysop-user chat door for when I broke into
that. I remember seeing it on your to-do list too. But it looks like thatmight be supported now?
Nightfox
thats what i am talking about nf but dm doesnt understand me.
Maybe I missed it in the commit log
messages.. When I initially set up Synchronet, I thought about
setting up IceChat as an external sysop-user chat door for when I
broke into chat with a user, but at the time Synchronet didn't support
that.
Well it's long had the external sysop chat pager thing, but user had to initiate that.
Re: chatWhen you just ask "Will the Synchronet chat system be
By: The Millionaire to Nightfox on Thu Aug 15 2019 07:58 am
thats what i am talking about nf but dm doesnt understand me.
That's because you don't include enough information in your initial posts.
fixed?",about. You should include more information when you ask
there's no context for your question, and nobody knew what you were talking
questions so that people aren't confused.
Nightfox
The Millionaire wrote to Nightfox <=-
There's probably something with the way IceChat was written or
built or something that makes it unstable on modern operating
systems.
possibly nf. but someone should try writing one then so its
compatible to synchronet.
Re: chat
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Wed Aug 14 2019 05:39 pm
some sysops like me back in the last decade wanted to run icechat and i would like freeze up. it was weird.
It would have been useful if you had included that information in your origi post about this.. There's a reason people tend to be clueless about what you're asking and keep asking you for more information.
The Millionaire wrote to Nightfox <=-
There's probably something with the way IceChat was written or
built or something that makes it unstable on modern operating
systems.
possibly nf. but someone should try writing one then so its
compatible to synchronet.
Let us know when you have a version ready for beta testing!
... Beauty is in the eyes of the beer holder!
Re: chatand i would like freeze up. it was weird.
By: Nightfox to The Millionaire on Wed Aug 14 2019 09:15 pm
Re: chat
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Wed Aug 14 2019 05:39 pm
some sysops like me back in the last decade wanted to run icechat
origi post about this.. There's a reason people tend to beIt would have been useful if you had included that information in your
information.clueless about what you're asking and keep asking you for more
they are just stupid people who fall into the trap. he's an askhole. hedoesnt have a bbs or a real computer to use a bbs or run his
own.
when you know how to use a trident series 65 then you can call me stupid.
There's probably something with the way IceChat was written or
built or something that makes it unstable on modern operating
systems.
possibly nf. but someone should try writing one then so its
compatible to synchronet.
Let us know when you have a version ready for beta testing!
wish i could i write one but dont understand js too well.
stupid.when you know how to use a trident series 65 then you can call me
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Re: Re: chatthe remote console (from the user) and from the sysop on the
By: The Millionaire to Gamgee on Thu Aug 15 2019 08:54 pm
There's probably something with the way IceChat was written or
built or something that makes it unstable on modern operating
systems.
possibly nf. but someone should try writing one then so its
compatible to synchronet.
Let us know when you have a version ready for beta testing!
wish i could i write one but dont understand js too well.
A sysop-user chat program would have to be able to accept input both from
BBSmodel. Also, normally, a separate window is created on the BBS
machine. I'm not sure if that can be done with Synchronet's JavaScript
machine for the sysop to interact with the user, but when a user runs aJavaScript door, there isn't a separate window (unless the sysop
selects "spy on user" with the SBBS control panel).
Nightfox
The Millionaire wrote to Gamgee <=-
There's probably something with the way IceChat was written or
built or something that makes it unstable on modern operating
systems.
possibly nf. but someone should try writing one then so its
compatible to synchronet.
Let us know when you have a version ready for beta testing!
wish i could i write one but dont understand js too well.
A sysop-user chat program would have to be able to accept input both
from the remote console (from the user) and from the sysop on the BBS
machine. I'm not sure if that can be done with Synchronet's
JavaScript model. Also, normally, a separate window is created on the
BBS machine for the sysop to interact with the user, but when a user
runs a JavaScript door, there isn't a separate window (unless the
sysop selects "spy on user" with the SBBS control panel).
have you tried or going to try writing one?
it shows that im not completely stupid.
I wrote a thing a while back that will page you on IRC and let you pull the user into IRC chat. It's not the best solution, and is only really good for some people, but it works for me.
If I tackled it again, I'd probably have the user-side script connect to a service (JSON-DB perhaps) and let the sysop connect to it from some client application. The sysop-client could be a desktop application, part of the web interface, an IRC bot module, even a mobile app I guess.
I wouldn't waste time making something designed only to run on the BBS host, since a lot of us now run our boards on headless systems (Raspberry Pi, VPS, some dusty old Dell workstation in the corner). Jumping in front of the keyboard and screen attached to the BBS server isn't an option for everyone.
What I don't remember is if it's possible to "break into chat" when the user is sitting at a prompt in the typical command shell. I vaguely recall something about using the "node sync" event for this.
All that having been said, I don't even think a sysop pager / chat tool is all that useful. There are plenty of alternatives. It's a part of the classic experience, so maybe worthwhile from that perspective.
mentioned in Synchronet'shave you tried or going to try writing one?
I thought about it, but I don't know of a way around the issues I've
JavaScript model.
Re: Re: chatmentioned in Synchronet's JavaScript model.
By: The Millionaire to Nightfox on Fri Aug 16 2019 09:01 am
A sysop-user chat program would have to be able to accept input both
from the remote console (from the user) and from the sysop on the BBS
machine. I'm not sure if that can be done with Synchronet's
JavaScript model. Also, normally, a separate window is created on the
BBS machine for the sysop to interact with the user, but when a user
runs a JavaScript door, there isn't a separate window (unless the
sysop selects "spy on user" with the SBBS control panel).
have you tried or going to try writing one?
I thought about it, but I don't know of a way around the issues I've
Nightfox
I thought about it, but I don't know of a way around the issues I've
mentioned in Synchronet's JavaScript model.
bring it up to dm about it maybe he will find a fix for it.
when you know how to use a trident series 65 then you can call me stupid.
I wouldn't waste time making something designed only to run on the BBS host, since a lot of us now run our boards on headless systems (Raspberry Pi, VPS, some dusty old Dell workstation in the corner). Jumping in front of the keyboard and screen attached to the BBS server isn't an option for everyone.
when you know how to use a trident series 65 then you can call me stupi
What does an audio console have to do with Synchronet or bbsing in general?
A sysop-user chat program would have to be able to accept input both from th remote console (from the user) and from the sysop on the BBS machine. I'm n sure if that can be done with Synchronet's JavaScript model. Also, normally
Re: chat
By: The Millionaire to MRO on Thu Aug 15 2019 08:57 pm
when you know how to use a trident series 65 then you can call me stupid.
maybe your knowledge of the trident series 65 is taking up your entire braincapacity.
Re: Re: chatstupi
By: Netsurge to The Millionaire on Fri Aug 16 2019 01:46 am
when you know how to use a trident series 65 then you can call me
general?What does an audio console have to do with Synchronet or bbsing in
he should just imagine each of those buttons is a line in text.dat
On 08-16-19 14:16, Nightfox wrote to echicken <=-
I often remote desktop to my BBS machine to do work on SBBS mods on the machine, update nodelists, etc.. So even if you have a headless
machine, it could still be potentially useful to have something you can run directly on that machine, if it's set up for some kind of remote desktop (VNC, TeamViewer, Windows Remote Desktop, etc.).
A sysop-user chat program would have to be able to accept input both from the remote console (from the user) and from the sysop on the BBS machine. I'm not sure if that can be done with Synchronet's JavaScript model. Also, normally, a separate window is created on the BBS machine for the sysop to interact with the user, but when a user runs a JavaScript door, there isn't a separate window (unless the sysop selects "spy on user" with the SBBS control panel).
he should just imagine each of those buttons is a line in text.dat
you wouldnt last 5 minutes in a control room.
Re: Re: chatfrom the remote console (from the user) and from the sysop on
By: Nightfox to The Millionaire on Thu Aug 15 2019 10:33 pm
A sysop-user chat program would have to be able to accept input both
JavaScript model. Also, normally, a separate window is created onthe
BBS machine. I'm not sure if that can be done with Synchronet's
runs a JavaScript door, there isn't a separate window (unlessthe
BBS machine for the sysop to interact with the user, but when a user
sysop-user chat program was nice to have back in the DOS days butthe
sysop selects "spy on user" with the SBBS control panel).
I'm not really sure why we would need such a program anymore anyway. A
isOn a system running sbbs as a daemon how would it even be
rather pointless in 2019. How many systems are headless and speakerless?
accessed? Not to mention we get barely any calls anyway. Just leave amessage on the BBS or send an email and it'll get sent to my
phone.
Immortal
... You know you're getting old when the candles cost more than the cake.
Re: Re: chat
By: The Millionaire to MRO on Fri Aug 16 2019 04:35 pm
he should just imagine each of those buttons is a line in text.dat
you wouldnt last 5 minutes in a control room.
shows how much you know. i've been told i'm a button pusher and that's alli'm good for!
I'm not really sure why we would need such a program anymore anyway. A sysop-user chat program was nice to have back in the DOS days but is rather pointless in 2019. How many systems are headless and speakerless?
On a system running sbbs as a daemon how would it even be accessed? Not to
then why even bother running a bbs for in the first place? me, because i enj the old fashioned way of computer communication.
Re: Re: chat
By: MRO to The Millionaire on Sat Aug 17 2019 12:08 am
Re: Re: chat
By: The Millionaire to MRO on Fri Aug 16 2019 04:35 pm
he should just imagine each of those buttons is a line in text.dat
you wouldnt last 5 minutes in a control room.
shows how much you know. i've been told i'm a button pusher and that's al i'm good for!
ok name me one component and i'll believe you then.
I'm not really sure why we would need such a program anymore anyway.
A sysop-user chat program was nice to have back in the DOS days but is
rather pointless in 2019. How many systems are headless and
speakerless? On a system running sbbs as a daemon how would it even
be accessed? Not to mention we get barely any calls anyway. Just
then why even bother running a bbs for in the first place? me, because i enjoy the old fashioned way of computer communication.
then why even bother running a bbs for in the first place? me, because
i enj the old fashioned way of computer communication.
that's funny because you are the only one here not running a bbs
because you cant get one together after all these years
Re: Re: chat
By: The Millionaire to Immortal on Sat Aug 17 2019 05:48 am
enj the old fashioned way of computer communication.then why even bother running a bbs for in the first place? me, because i
that's funny because you are the only one here not running a bbs
because you cant get one together after all these years
On 08-17-19 11:14, Nightfox wrote to Immortal <=-
You could remote desktop to your BBS machine.
On a system running sbbs as a daemon how would it even be accessed? Not to
That's true..
Re: Re: chati enjoy the old fashioned way of computer communication.
By: The Millionaire to Immortal on Sat Aug 17 2019 05:48 am
I'm not really sure why we would need such a program anymore anyway.
A sysop-user chat program was nice to have back in the DOS days but is
rather pointless in 2019. How many systems are headless and
speakerless? On a system running sbbs as a daemon how would it even
be accessed? Not to mention we get barely any calls anyway. Just
then why even bother running a bbs for in the first place? me, because
Well the technology is a little bit different these days. We have BBSsoftware now that also offers interfaces via web, FTP, NNTP, etc.,
and there are more peopole these days who run a BBS on a dedicated machinewithout having a screen on all the time. Some people these
dayscan remote desktop to our BBS machine, it could be useful to
even run a BBS on a remote server that's not in their home.. So although we
have a sysop-user chat program that works a little differently.machine than the BBS is running on. That's something that
I think it would be kinda cool to be able to chat with a user on a different
weI enjoy the old-fashioned BBS ways sometimes, but we are also
couldn't really do back in the old BBS days. Like you, I run a BBS because
able to do things these days that we couldn't do back then.
Nightfox
Re: Re: chatfind a way to complain when we have a user that isn't a sysop
By: MRO to The Millionaire on Sat Aug 17 2019 01:25 pm
then why even bother running a bbs for in the first place? me, because
i enj the old fashioned way of computer communication.
that's funny because you are the only one here not running a bbs because you cant get one together after all these years
You always complain that the only users we have are sysops, and you still
(yet, anyway)..
Nightfox
Re: Re: chattext.dat
By: The Millionaire to MRO on Sat Aug 17 2019 05:50 am
Re: Re: chat
By: MRO to The Millionaire on Sat Aug 17 2019 12:08 am
Re: Re: chat
By: The Millionaire to MRO on Fri Aug 16 2019 04:35 pm
he should just imagine each of those buttons is a line in
you wouldnt last 5 minutes in a control room.
al i'm good for!shows how much you know. i've been told i'm a button pusher and that's
ok name me one component and i'll believe you then.
transistor
You could remote desktop to your BBS machine.
That doesn't have the required interactivity. For example, in the DOS days, the BBS was all that was on the console screen, so any sysop pages were immediately visible (and audible if you had sound enabled). With remote desktop solutions (RDP, VNC, etc), you _may_ (I have seen RDP do this in some limited circumstances) get audio, but the video content can't interrupt your viewing like the old fashioned single tasking BBS could.
Well the technology is a little bit different these days. We have BBS
software now that also offers interfaces via web, FTP, NNTP, etc., and
there are more peopole these days who run a BBS on a dedicated machine
without having a screen on all the time. Some people these days even
run a BBS on a remote server that's not in their home.. So although
we can remote desktop to our BBS machine, it could be useful to have a
sysop-user chat program that works a little differently.
true but when internet became more affordable people dismantled their bbses with dialup modems and start doing other things internet wise like me. i use an ipad with apps on it.
Re: Re: chatbbses with dialup modems and start doing other things internet
By: The Millionaire to Nightfox on Sat Aug 17 2019 02:48 pm
Well the technology is a little bit different these days. We have BBS
software now that also offers interfaces via web, FTP, NNTP, etc., and
there are more peopole these days who run a BBS on a dedicated machine
without having a screen on all the time. Some people these days even
run a BBS on a remote server that's not in their home.. So although
we can remote desktop to our BBS machine, it could be useful to have a
sysop-user chat program that works a little differently.
true but when internet became more affordable people dismantled their
technologies too.wise like me. i use an ipad with apps on it.
But now some people are BBSing again and we also have newer internet
Nightfox
it shows that im not completely stupid.
Re: Re: chat
By: MRO to The Millionaire on Sat Aug 17 2019 01:25 pm
then why even bother running a bbs for in the first place? me, because
i enj the old fashioned way of computer communication.
that's funny because you are the only one here not running a bbs because you cant get one together after all these years
You always complain that the only users we have are sysops, and you still fi a way to complain when we have a user that isn't a sysop (yet, anyway)..
that's funny because you are the only one here not running a bbs
because you cant get one together after all these years
you know its really funny you saying that since you dont contribute to synchronet except bully people here. are you really that bored?
ok name me one component and i'll believe you then.
transistor
no i meant a component on the mixing console.
this in some limited circumstances) get audio, but the video content ca interrupt your viewing like the old fashioned single tasking BBS could.
I'm not sure what you mean about not having the required interactivity.. My idea with the remote desktop was that you can still break into chat with the user and talk to them on the BBS machine that way. I've done that before.
On 08-17-19 16:32, Nightfox wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
I'm not sure what you mean about not having the required
interactivity.. My idea with the remote desktop was that you can still break into chat with the user and talk to them on the BBS machine that way. I've done that before.
Re: Re: chat
By: The Millionaire to MRO on Sat Aug 17 2019 02:44 pm
synchronet except bully people here. are you really that bored?that's funny because you are the only one here not running a bbs because you cant get one together after all these years
you know its really funny you saying that since you dont contribute to
i have contributed a lot of my time, hardwork and money to the bbsingcommunity since 1997.
i'm not bullying anybody. i'm just saying you're a waste of space.
i use syncchat. if i want to talk to a user i send them a msg to meet there, or i hijack their session via synchronet and push the button for chat.
i dont need or want an external chat program beeping or blipping.
By: The Millionaire to MRO on Sat Aug 17 2019 02:45 pm
resistor.no i meant a component on the mixing console.ok name me one component and i'll believe you then.transistor
I'm not sure what you mean about not having the required
interactivity.. My idea with the remote desktop was that you can
still break into chat with the user and talk to them on the BBS
machine that way. I've done that before.
And what do you see when it's minimised? Can it pop up dialogs to tell you you've been paged? We no longer live on single tasking DOS machines. :)
i'm not complaining, captain autistic. just pointing out some facts here.
i wouldnt call millionaire a user or a sysop. i said he's an askhole.
Re: Re: chat
By: MRO to The Millionaire on Sat Aug 17 2019 11:06 pm
By: The Millionaire to MRO on Sat Aug 17 2019 02:45 pm
resistor.no i meant a component on the mixing console.ok name me one component and i'll believe you then.transistor
I would have gone with knob, slider, switch or button...
On 2019 Aug 17 19:47:34, you wrote to me:
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Re: chat
By: mark lewis to The Millionaire on Sat Aug 17 2019 10:20 pm
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did you try to say something? the above is all that arrived here...
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Once men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would
them free. But that only permitted other men with machines to enslave them. ... "Gajan Kristnaskon kaj Felican Novan Jaron." - Esperanto Christmas
Re: Re: chatthere, or i hijack their session via synchronet and push the
By: MRO to Nightfox on Sat Aug 17 2019 11:07 pm
i use syncchat. if i want to talk to a user i send them a msg to meet
I used to have IceChat set up as an external door thatbutton for chat.
i dont need or want an external chat program beeping or blipping.
You don't have to have an external chat program page you. Back in the 90s,
RemoteAccess would run when I broke into chat with the user. It didn't haveto be used for paging me first.
Nightfox
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Re: chat
By: mark lewis to The Millionaire on Sat Aug 17 2019 10:20 pm
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Re: Re: chathere.
By: MRO to Nightfox on Sat Aug 17 2019 11:04 pm
i'm not complaining, captain autistic. just pointing out some facts
i wouldnt call millionaire a user or a sysop. i said he's an askhole.
Cool story, mro.
resistor.no i meant a component on the mixing console.ok name me one component and i'll believe you then.transistor
I would have gone with knob, slider, switch or button...
Re: Re: chat
By: MRO to Nightfox on Sat Aug 17 2019 11:04 pm
i'm not complaining, captain autistic. just pointing out some facts her
i wouldnt call millionaire a user or a sysop. i said he's an askhole.
Cool story, mro.
I would have gone with knob, slider, switch or button...
well we used to set our vu meters at 0dB@250nW.
i wouldnt call millionaire a user or a sysop. i said he's an askhole.
Cool story, mro.
?????
Re: Re: chat
By: The Millionaire to Ernest J Gainey Iii on Sun Aug 18 2019 12:27 pm
I would have gone with knob, slider, switch or button...
well we used to set our vu meters at 0dB@250nW.
that doesnt mean shit if you dont have the correct impedance to the circuit.
I would have gone with knob, slider, switch or button...i am starting at the beginning and working my way up incase this goes on for years.
Re: Re: chataskhole.
By: The Millionaire to Nightfox on Sun Aug 18 2019 12:30 pm
i wouldnt call millionaire a user or a sysop. i said he's an
Cool story, mro.
?????
That was sarcasm.
Nightfox
ya dark sarcasm for dark(evil) people.
On 08-18-19 13:56, Ernest J Gainey Iii wrote to MRO <=-
Re: Re: chat
By: MRO to The Millionaire on Sat Aug 17 2019 11:06 pm
By: The Millionaire to MRO on Sat Aug 17 2019 02:45 pm
resistor.no i meant a component on the mixing console.ok name me one component and i'll believe you then.transistor
I would have gone with knob, slider, switch or button...
On 08-18-19 11:00, Nightfox wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
No, there are no pop-up dialogs. But normally, when a user pages you,
it plays a sound rather than showing a pop-up. So if you want to be
able to hear those sounds, you can leave your PC speakers on. Also,
some remote desktop software forwards the remote PC's sounds to your
local PC, so even when it's minimized, you could hear the user's page sounds.
Re: Re: chat
By: MRO to The Millionaire on Sat Aug 17 2019 11:06 pm
By: The Millionaire to MRO on Sat Aug 17 2019 02:45 pm
resistor.no i meant a component on the mixing console.ok name me one component and i'll believe you then.transistor
I would have gone with knob, slider, switch or button...
fader, pan pot?
... The trouble with facts is that there are so many of them.
=== MultiMail/Win v0.51
I know RDP can do it with some setups, but again, that's not universal. That assumes a Windows host. I run Linux for the BBS on a Pi
I would have gone with knob, slider, switch or button...
fader, pan pot?
... Sector not found. Kill Program? (Y)es, (N)o, (S)crew it
On 08-19-19 09:42, The Millionaire wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
those are good ones. gain, remix, eq, sends
output buss assignments, stereo buss
On 08-19-19 09:52, Nightfox wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
Re: Re: chat
By: Tony Langdon to Nightfox on Mon Aug 19 2019 05:24 pm
I know RDP can do it with some setups, but again, that's not universal. That assumes a Windows host. I run Linux for the BBS on a Pi
RDP is available for Linux too. We use RDP to remote to some Linux machines where I work.
On 08-19-19 16:46, Daryl Stout wrote to TONY LANGDON <=-
Tony,
... Sector not found. Kill Program? (Y)es, (N)o, (S)crew it
Really. Sounds like a Windows utility. <BG>
Not much good if the BBS is in a different room. Also, for me, that's not t TL>most appropriate place for sounds anyway. I probably have them disabled. :)
On 08-20-19 02:25, Daryl Stout wrote to TONY LANGDON <=-)
Tony,
Not much good if the BBS is in a different room. Also, for me, that's not
most appropriate place for sounds anyway. I probably have them disabled.
I originally would mute the speakers, but sometimes, sounds would
come through. When one of the legacy doors does its add-on once a week during nightnly maintenance, it causes a shrill noise to come over the speakers, even with the headset mic in. With Windows 7, I had to do a reboot to kill the noise. With Windows 10, I just logged back in (the screen saver had kicked in), and the noise went away.
I just use Linux. :D
I just use Linux. :D
You have a fetish for penguins, I see. <g,d,r>
Re: Re: chat
By: Daryl Stout to TONY LANGDON on Thu Aug 22 2019 05:10 pm
It could be either penguins or gnus.
Nightfox
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It could be either penguins or gnus.
What about pens or guns? :-P
Re: Re: chat
By: The Millionaire to Nightfox on Fri Aug 23 2019 04:02 pm
Linux doesn't use pens or guns as its mascot/logo. The penguin is the mascot of Linux, and there's also the GNU Linux project.
Nightfox
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On 08-22-19 17:10, Daryl Stout wrote to TONY LANGDON <=-
Tony,
I just use Linux. :D
You have a fetish for penguins, I see. <g,d,r>
I just use Linux. :D
You have a fetish for penguins, I see. <g,d,r>
You should know running won't do you any good around me. :P
... Does Micro$oft refer to Bill Gate's penis?
I just use Linux. :D
You have a fetish for penguins, I see. <g,d,r>
It could be either penguins or gnus.
Yes, I'm in a nether mood right now, bordering on a breakdown. After
being my Mom's caregiver for over 2 years...now dealing with her death, funeral, and all the comes with it afterwards, I'm ready to snap.
I was hoping for a 10 day train trip for ham radio deal in
mid-September, but after storm damage in June (the money saved for it, paid the 10 day hotel bill), and now I have to have a procedure done the week of the event, means the trip wasn't meant to be.
The insurance company said "since the house had running water, and no other damage, it was still livable". However, with no power or air conditioning, inside temperatures were over 100 degrees...people die in that every day. To them, it's catastrophic, if they have to pay a claim...even if it's the first one in 25 years.
On 08-26-19 18:25, Daryl Stout wrote to TONY LANGDON <=-
You should know running won't do you any good around me. :P
So much for "TAG!! YOU'RE IT!!". :P
... Does Micro$oft refer to Bill Gate's penis?
It's just a big phallacy. <BG>
On 08-26-19 18:50, Daryl Stout wrote to NIGHTFOX <=-
Yes, I'm in a nether mood right now, bordering on a breakdown. After being my Mom's caregiver for over 2 years...now dealing with her death, funeral, and all the comes with it afterwards, I'm ready to snap.
Sorry to hear about your mom. Condolences to you and your family. And it N>sounds like you have a lot to deal with otherwise too. :/
On 08-29-19 16:38, Daryl Stout wrote to TONY LANGDON <=-
I need a good long cry in the worst way...and like it was 7 months
after I lost my XYL (wife) 12 1/2 years ago...it'll be done alone. :'(
Somedays, except for doing the weather data on the BBS, I do little
else with the BBS.
Thanks for the condolences. The BBS, ham radio, and square dancing,
have been diversions, but they can only do so much.
I'm long overdue for a good long cry...like the one I had 7 months
after my wife died.
Be better to deal with that sooner, rather than later. Mental health is ver TL>important, and too many men neglect it for stupid, cultural reasons. Yes, I TL>being blunt here, deliberately.
Somedays, except for doing the weather data on the BBS, I do little else with the BBS.
I spend my time reading and writing mail. ;)
... Good: Your uncle leaves you a fortune. Bad: It's counterfeit.
Thanks for the condolences. The BBS, ham radio, and square dancing,
have been diversions, but they can only do so much.
I'm long overdue for a good long cry...like the one I had 7 months
after my wife died.
Sometimes you just have to do that.
On 08-31-19 12:06, Daryl Stout wrote to TONY LANGDON <=-
As long as I don't have to send you a dollar two ninety-eight for the shrink consultation fee. <g,d,r>
Like where a mother tells her daughter that she's going to leave her
all this wealth...then tells her it's in the game on Facebook, and dies immediately after that. <G>
Or the one where the preacher said he wanted to die between two important political figures. So, they got those 2 individuals on each
side of him, and asked if he wanted anything else. He replied "I'm now
at peace. I can die like Jesus did...between 2 theives!!". And with
that, he was gone. <G>
| Sysop: | sneaky |
|---|---|
| Location: | Ashburton,NZ |
| Users: | 21 |
| Nodes: | 8 (0 / 8) |
| Uptime: | 191:28:42 |
| Calls: | 1,781 |
| Files: | 11,046 |
| Messages: | 927,821 |