From: al@TRMB.remove-kpq-this

Hello Digital Man,

I have a question about tossing from QWK <-> FTN.

I have a small network, 5 or so QWK and 4 or so FTN links.

When a QWK node enters messages into the network all nodes receive the messages and I see something like

Exported 1 msg other -> GN_OTHER in my sbbsecho.log

On the other hand when an FTN link enters messages into the network the messages travel between the FTN links but are not saved to the message base and are not sent to the QWK links. I also don't see anything like GN_OTHER -> other in my sbbsecho.log.

Is there a step I need to take for messages received from FTN nodes to be saved to the message base?

Ttyl :-),
Al


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From: digital.man@vert.synchro.net.remove-8ru-this

To: Al
Re: Tossing QWK <-> FTN
By: Al to All on Sun Jun 17 2018 07:46 pm

Hello Digital Man,

I have a question about tossing from QWK <-> FTN.

I have a small network, 5 or so QWK and 4 or so FTN links.

When a QWK node enters messages into the network all nodes receive the messages and I see something like

Exported 1 msg other -> GN_OTHER in my sbbsecho.log

On the other hand when an FTN link enters messages into the network the messages travel between the FTN links but are not saved to the message base and are not sent to the QWK links. I also don't see anything like GN_OTHER

other in my sbbsecho.log.

Is there a step I need to take for messages received from FTN nodes to be saved to the message base?

Do you have "Gate between net types" enabled for those message areas in SCFG?

digital man

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From: dumas.walker@CAPCITY2.remove-wac-this

To: AL

Is there a step I need to take for messages received from FTN nodes to be saved
to the message base?

In SCFG, are the message areas set up to bridge messages across network
types = Y? Are they set up for both QWK and FTN = Y?

Only things I can think of.

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From: al@TRMB.remove-d0n-this

To: Digital Man
Re: Tossing QWK <-> FTN
By: Digital Man to Al on Mon Jun 18 2018 01:19 pm

Do you have "Gate between net types" enabled for those message areas in SCFG?

Yes. I just saw a post from an FTN node on the QWK side so it is working as expected in that area at least.

There must be something wrong in the setup of some of the areas. I'll walk through the areas and the log and see if I can see what it is.

Ttyl :-),
Al


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From: al@TRMB.remove-d0n-this

To: Dumas Walker
Re: Tossing QWK <-> FTN
By: Dumas Walker to AL on Mon Jun 18 2018 06:26 pm

Is there a step I need to take for messages received from FTN nodes to
be saved to the message base?

In SCFG, are the message areas set up to bridge messages across network types = Y? Are they set up for both QWK and FTN = Y?

Yes it is. I did see an FTN nodes post today.. so I think I need to look at what I am doing at the hub. Possibly the format of the areas.bbs but I'll keep looking.. :)

Ttyl :-),
Al


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From: alan.ianson@1:153/757.remove-7i9-this

To: Digital Man
Re: Tossing QWK <-> FTN
By: Digital Man to Al on Tue Jun 19 2018 10:34 pm

"0S" means don't filter based on age. Can you post the sbbsecho.log entries of the filtered messages?

Here's an entry from before I changed MaxNetmailAge and MaxEchomailAge..

2018-06-20 04:01:14 Importing /sbbs/fido/inbound/5b29d184.pkt (Type 2+, 1.0KB) from 32:1/5 to 32:1/10
2018-06-20 04:01:14 Filtering message from Al due to age: 0.3 days
2018-06-20 04:01:14 Creating outbound packet from 32:1/10 to 32:1/11: /sbbs/tem p/sbbsecho/5b29d18a.pkt
2018-06-20 04:01:14 Adding GN_TEST message from Al (32:1/5) to packet for 32:1/ 11: /sbbs/temp/sbbsecho/5b29d18a.pkt
2018-06-20 04:01:14 Creating outbound packet from 32:1/10 to 32:1/12: /sbbs/tem p/sbbsecho/5b29d18b.pkt
2018-06-20 04:01:14 Adding GN_TEST message from Al (32:1/5) to packet for 32:1/ 12: /sbbs/temp/sbbsecho/5b29d18b.pkt
2018-06-20 04:01:14 Creating outbound packet from 32:1/10 to 32:1/13: /sbbs/tem p/sbbsecho/5b29d18c.pkt
2018-06-20 04:01:14 Adding GN_TEST message from Al (32:1/5) to packet for 32:1/ 13: /sbbs/temp/sbbsecho/5b29d18c.pkt
2018-06-20 04:01:14 Creating outbound packet from 32:1/10 to 32:1/14: /sbbs/tem p/sbbsecho/5b29d18d.pkt
2018-06-20 04:01:14 Adding GN_TEST message from Al (32:1/5) to packet for 32:1/ 14: /sbbs/temp/sbbsecho/5b29d18d.pkt

There were two nodes from Australia that were not filtered, I think because of their timezone.

Ttyl :-),
Al


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From: al@TRMB.remove-pfm-this

To: Digital Man
Re: Tossing QWK <-> FTN
By: Digital Man to Al on Mon Jun 18 2018 01:19 pm

Do you have "Gate between net types" enabled for those message areas in SCFG?

I think I have this sorted. When someone on the FTN side posted the message was filtered due to age: 0.3 days. It was not saved at the hub so QWK nodes never got the message but it was sent to FTN nodes.

I just changed MaxNetmailAge and MaxEchoMailAge in the hubs sbbsecho.ini to 30D from 0S and I see my own posts saved on the hub.

I'll know once I see other nodes posting but right now it looks like that solved it.

Ttyl :-),
Al


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From: digital.man@vert.synchro.net.remove-2d0-this

To: Al
Re: Tossing QWK <-> FTN
By: Al to Digital Man on Tue Jun 19 2018 09:57 pm

Re: Tossing QWK <-> FTN
By: Digital Man to Al on Mon Jun 18 2018 01:19 pm

Do you have "Gate between net types" enabled for those message areas in SCFG?

I think I have this sorted. When someone on the FTN side posted the message was filtered due to age: 0.3 days. It was not saved at the hub so QWK nodes never got the message but it was sent to FTN nodes.

I just changed MaxNetmailAge and MaxEchoMailAge in the hubs sbbsecho.ini to 30D from 0S and I see my own posts saved on the hub.

"0S" means don't filter based on age. Can you post the sbbsecho.log entries of the filtered messages?

I'll know once I see other nodes posting but right now it looks like that solved it.

The default for MaxEchoMailAge is 0, which means: don't filter based on age.

digital man

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From: digital.man@vert.synchro.net.remove-rni-this

To: Alan Ianson
Re: Tossing QWK <-> FTN
By: Alan Ianson to Digital Man on Wed Jun 20 2018 08:37 am

Re: Tossing QWK <-> FTN
By: Digital Man to Al on Tue Jun 19 2018 10:34 pm

"0S" means don't filter based on age. Can you post the sbbsecho.log entries of the filtered messages?

Here's an entry from before I changed MaxNetmailAge and MaxEchomailAge..

2018-06-20 04:01:14 Importing /sbbs/fido/inbound/5b29d184.pkt (Type 2+, 1.0KB) from 32:1/5 to 32:1/10
2018-06-20 04:01:14 Filtering message from Al due to age: 0.3 days

And do you have an sbbsecho.ini backup (e.g. sbbsecho.0.ini) which has the old MaxEchomailAge value? I suspect (and hope) that it was a non-zero value.

digital man

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From: al@TRMB.remove-4hk-this

To: Digital Man
Re: Tossing QWK <-> FTN
By: Digital Man to Alan Ianson on Wed Jun 20 2018 11:22 am

And do you have an sbbsecho.ini backup (e.g. sbbsecho.0.ini) which has the old MaxEchomailAge value? I suspect (and hope) that it was a non-zero value.

Yes, it was set at 30S. I'm not sure how that got there. I set the hub back to 0S so I that will do what we want.

Ttyl :-),
Al


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From: dumas.walker@CAPCITY2.remove-fq3-this

To: AL

Yes, it was set at 30S. I'm not sure how that got there. I set the hub back to >0S so I that will do what we want.

Al,
I think you said the issue was with FTN nodes, but I am connecting QWK and
am also having issues. I make a connection but there is never any new
mail. Maybe that is not really a problem. I did try posting to an area.
Maybe I just need to log on later and reset my pointers.

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From: al@TRMB.remove-ovn-this

To: Dumas Walker
Re: Tossing QWK <-> FTN
By: Dumas Walker to AL on Thu Jun 21 2018 07:00 pm

I think you said the issue was with FTN nodes, but I am connecting QWK and am also having issues.

There were posts on the FTN side that were not being saved at the hub but that has been solved. It was an incorrect MaxEchomailAge setting in sbbsecho.ini that has been fixed now. You should see all posts from QWK or FTN nodes.

I make a connection but there is never any new mail.

There are roughly 6 QWK and 6 FTN nodes at the moment so there is not a lot of traffic but there have been 5-10 posts a day lately, mostly tests.

Maybe that is not really a problem. I did try posting to an area.

Yes, I would say that really is a problem.

Maybe I just need to log on later and reset my pointers.

Can you try that as well as a fresh post? I will keep an eye out for that and if that doesn't solve it we'll need to look into that and figure out the solution.

Ttyl :-),
Al


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From: dumas.walker@CAPCITY2.remove-hd8-this

To: AL

Maybe I just need to log on later and reset my pointers.

Can you try that as well as a fresh post? I will keep an eye out for that and if that doesn't solve it we'll need to look into that and figure out the solution.

OK, I have posted a response to this message in the OTHER echo on GN.

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From: al@TRMB.remove-vy0-this

To: Dumas Walker
Re: Tossing QWK <-> FTN
By: Dumas Walker to AL on Fri Jun 22 2018 06:12 pm

OK, I have posted a response to this message in the OTHER echo on GN.

Do you see my message to you in GN?

I see your CAPCITY2 to account at the hub but I have not seen anything inbound from your BBS yet.

Ttyl :-),
Al


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From: al@TRMB.remove-dyt-this

To: Dumas Walker
Re: Tossing QWK <-> FTN
By: Dumas Walker to AL on Sat Jun 23 2018 11:33 am

I figured out what I did wrong. I did not realize that importing the echos from the included txt file would not link them to the hub. :) I should have that fixed later this weekend and I bet all will be well after that.

Ah Hah! Did you import hte gamenet.na file?

If you import the gn_subs.txt they should be set for QWK type, if you imported the gn_subs.txt and it doesn't work I'd like to know.. :)

Ttyl :-),
Al


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From: dumas.walker@CAPCITY2.remove-qvw-this

To: AL

Can you try that as well as a fresh post? I will keep an eye out for that and if that doesn't solve it we'll need to look into that and figure out the solution.

I figured out what I did wrong. I did not realize that importing the echos from the included txt file would not link them to the hub. :) I should
have that fixed later this weekend and I bet all will be well after that. :D

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From: dumas.walker@CAPCITY2.remove-3eb-this

To: AL

If you import the gn_subs.txt they should be set for QWK type, if you imported >the gn_subs.txt and it doesn't work I'd like to know.. :)

I think I imported that. They are all set up for QWK type, just not linked
to the hub. :) I suspect that could be my issue.

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From: vk3jed@FREEWAY.remove-ts2-this

To: Dumas Walker

On 06-23-18 11:33, Dumas Walker wrote to AL <=-

I figured out what I did wrong. I did not realize that importing the echos from the included txt file would not link them to the hub. :) I should have that fixed later this weekend and I bet all will be well
after that. :D

Yep, linking is done separately for both QWK and FTN. In QWK, it's done on the BBS, by selecting those subs for QWK download. In FTN, the links are defined in the areas.bbs file.


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