• Poll

    From The Millionaire@21:1/183 to All on Monday, February 10, 2020 08:21:19
    What operating system do you like to use the most with Mystic BBS?

    1. Windows
    2. OSX
    3. Linux

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to The Millionaire on Monday, February 10, 2020 11:52:46
    What operating system do you like to use the most with Mystic BBS?
    1. Windows

    Got an MCP/MCSE many years ago...so know how to do Windows.

    2. OSX

    Couldn't set up a Hackintosh...so have no idea other than it's based off BSD.

    3. Linux

    Tried running the board on a RPi. Because of my being a NOOB (even after playing with it for many years)...ended up with more issues than I started with...so went back to Windows.

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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to The Millionaire on Tuesday, February 11, 2020 10:03:00
    On 02-10-20 08:21, The Millionaire wrote to All <=-

    What operating system do you like to use the most with Mystic BBS?

    1. Windows

    I know Windows aell, and could run a board under it, but I prefer a "lighter" environment for a BBS. But Windows for me is a good client side OS.

    2. OSX

    I don't have any Macs nowadays, and my previous attempts to setup a Hackintosh weren't entirely successful.

    3. Linux

    This is my preferred OS to run a BBS under. Linux can be made an efficient environment, and the out of the box scripting capabilities in BASH are very handy.


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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Phoobar on Tuesday, February 11, 2020 10:08:00
    On 02-10-20 11:52, Phoobar wrote to The Millionaire <=-

    What operating system do you like to use the most with Mystic BBS?
    1. Windows

    Got an MCP/MCSE many years ago...so know how to do Windows.

    I've had a few MCPs over the years, but never went to MCSE level, so I know Windows as well.

    2. OSX

    Couldn't set up a Hackintosh...so have no idea other than it's based
    off BSD.

    I had trouble with a Hackintosh as well. I did have a real Mac years ago and loved it.

    3. Linux

    Tried running the board on a RPi. Because of my being a NOOB (even
    after playing with it for many years)...ended up with more issues than
    I started with...so went back to Windows.

    I've been using Linux since 1995, and now I run 2 BBSs on it, on a single Banana Pi.


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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Vk3jed on Tuesday, February 11, 2020 00:45:40
    Got an MCP/MCSE many years ago...so know how to do Windows.
    I've had a few MCPs over the years, but never went to MCSE level, so I know Windows as well.

    At the time...everyone else was doing Exchange/SQL/IIS...while I did my elective at the time on Proxy Server. Was a wise choice now knowing what it does & why you would want to use it.

    2. OSX
    Couldn't set up a Hackintosh...so have no idea other than it's based off BSD.

    I have run AMD's for decades...so couldn't see a reason to get an Intel chip just to run a Hackintosh. Got to play with a girlfriend's Mac OSX & wasn't
    very impressed by what it would do. Any *nix is easier to set up & use coming from a Windows from my viewpoint.

    I've been using Linux since 1995, and now I run 2 BBSs on it, on a single Banana Pi.

    Seen these on sale. Have you run an RPi & a Banana as well? What's different
    & the same with the Banana...other than the cost? Know anyone who has/is running some of the other "Pi" boards?

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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Phoobar on Tuesday, February 11, 2020 21:50:00
    On 02-11-20 00:45, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    At the time...everyone else was doing Exchange/SQL/IIS...while I did my elective at the time on Proxy Server. Was a wise choice now knowing
    what it does & why you would want to use it.

    Ahh, OK. Yeah good one. :)

    2. OSX
    Couldn't set up a Hackintosh...so have no idea other than it's based off BSD.

    I have run AMD's for decades...so couldn't see a reason to get an Intel chip just to run a Hackintosh. Got to play with a girlfriend's Mac OSX
    & wasn't very impressed by what it would do. Any *nix is easier to set
    up & use coming from a Windows from my viewpoint.

    I have Intels, but just didn't get it working. :(

    I've been using Linux since 1995, and now I run 2 BBSs on it, on a single Banana Pi.

    Seen these on sale. Have you run an RPi & a Banana as well? What's different & the same with the Banana...other than the cost? Know anyone who has/is running some of the other "Pi" boards?

    I have the original Banana Pi. Has GigE and 1G RAM, and copes with two BBSs no problem. :) Higher specs than the RPi of its day.


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  • From tenser@21:1/101 to Phoobar on Wednesday, February 12, 2020 04:20:12
    On 11 Feb 2020 at 12:45a, Phoobar pondered and said...

    I've been using Linux since 1995, and now I run 2 BBSs on it, on a si Banana Pi.

    Seen these on sale. Have you run an RPi & a Banana as well? What's different & the same with the Banana...other than the cost? Know anyone who has/is running some of the other "Pi" boards?

    Many of the Banana Pi boards (though not all) have a real ethernet
    PHY and real SATA controllers. The Raspberry Pi family (more
    generally, the broadcom SOCs they use) provide these functions via
    a USB bridge, which means both network and storage bandwidth is
    limited by the throughput of USB, which is well below what you can
    do with real GigE and real SATA.

    The Raspberry Pi 4 might have enough oomph that things are getting
    reasonable on those boards, but if you care about "balance" between
    computation and IO capacity, it's better to go with a machine that
    has dedicated hardware.

    "Balancing" IO and compute was a big part of what set workstation-class computers apart from PCs back in the 80s and 90s. It always amazed
    me when people bought a "fast" Pentium with "lots" of RAM (for the
    time) and then hobbled it with a PATA IDE disk....

    Even today, we see this often with people opting for a "faster"
    processor but not balancing that with the memory subsystem and
    cache layer. Why pay a few hundred bucks more for a faster CPU
    that you can't feed fast enough to run your actual workload faster?

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  • From Spectre@21:3/101 to Phoobar on Tuesday, February 11, 2020 21:24:00
    Seen these on sale. Have you run an RPi & a Banana as well? What's

    I have a PiZero running streaming weathercam, and a thermometer, as well as an OrangePi (off the top of my head the Zero also) running as a serial/router for an Apple IIgs.

    It depends what you're comparing, generally RaspBi's have better support for the included hardware. The OPis sometime have unsupported hardware on board, not sure what for or what design decision got it there in the first place.

    OPi's have generally been cheaper with gruntier CPU but at the expense of some
    memory, but for my money both have been capable of doing what I needed so not much in it. Banana's, I haven't had the pleasure of their acquaintance.

    Spec


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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Vk3jed on Tuesday, February 11, 2020 12:21:08
    I have run AMD's for decades...so couldn't see a reason to get an Int chip just to run a Hackintosh. Got to play with a girlfriend's Mac OS
    I have Intels, but just didn't get it working. :(

    Was a nice idea if you had unlimited time to get it working. Even my experimentation with OS/2 & eventually ArcaOS soon...I can get it to boot & running.

    I have the original Banana Pi. Has GigE and 1G RAM, and copes with two BBSs no problem. :) Higher specs than the RPi of its day.

    Have Amazon open & they are impressive in their specs. On the other
    hand...see they have an Atomic Pi for sale for $33.95 US. Has a quad core
    Atom processor with 2 GB of RAM & 16 GB if flash on board with everything any other other pi's have. They got an impressive review by the guy who runs Explaining Computers. Am going to have to see if anyone has run OS/2 or AOS on this.

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to tenser on Tuesday, February 11, 2020 13:07:48
    Many of the Banana Pi boards (though not all) have a real ethernet
    PHY and real SATA controllers. The Raspberry Pi family (more
    generally, the broadcom SOCs they use) provide these functions via
    a USB bridge, which means both network and storage bandwidth is
    limited by the throughput of USB, which is well below what you can
    do with real GigE and real SATA.

    Saw that in the specs. Wondered why even as good as the 3B+ was...the bottlenecks were still very noticeable...especially when using the USB hub & anything hooked up with USB.

    "Balancing" IO and compute was a big part of what set workstation-class computers apart from PCs back in the 80s and 90s. It always amazed
    me when people bought a "fast" Pentium with "lots" of RAM (for the
    time) and then hobbled it with a PATA IDE disk....

    I was one of those...because of the cost/availablity of the hardware out
    there.

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Spectre on Tuesday, February 11, 2020 13:11:53
    It depends what you're comparing, generally RaspBi's have better
    support for the included hardware. The OPis sometime have unsupported hardware on board, not sure what for or what design decision got it
    there in the first place.

    Have heard that in the past...especially in terms of software support
    compared to the RPi.

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  • From Alter Ego@21:2/116 to Phoobar on Wednesday, February 12, 2020 09:10:28
    Re: Re: Poll
    By: Phoobar to Vk3jed on Tue Feb 11 2020 12:21 pm

    Have Amazon open & they are impressive in their specs. On the other hand...see they have an Atomic Pi for sale for $33.95 US. Has a quad core Atom processor with 2 GB of RAM & 16 GB if flash on board with everything any other other pi's have. They got an impressive review by the guy who runs Explaining Computers. Am going to have to see if anyone has run OS/2 or AOS on this.

    I was curious, so I googled it.

    I only just started reading this - but it doesnt get a good review...

    https://hackaday.com/2019/06/06/the-atomic-pi-is-it-worth-it/
    ...deon


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  • From The Millionaire@21:1/183 to Phoobar on Tuesday, February 11, 2020 14:43:05


    Got an MCP/MCSE many years ago...so know how to do Windows.

    Couldn't set up a Hackintosh...so have no idea other than it's based off BSD.

    Tried running the board on a RPi. Because of my being a NOOB (even after playing with it for many years)...ended up with more issues than I started with...so went back to Windows.

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    Wow! Didn’t RPi was problematic.

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  • From Blue White@21:4/134 to The Millionaire on Tuesday, February 11, 2020 18:16:07
    The Millionaire wrote to All <=-

    What operating system do you like to use the most with Mystic BBS?

    1. Windows
    2. OSX
    3. Linux

    4. I don't use Mystic BBS


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  • From The Millionaire@21:1/183 to Blue White on Tuesday, February 11, 2020 16:33:56


    4. I don't use Mystic BBS

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    Oh? What do you use then?

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Alter Ego on Tuesday, February 11, 2020 17:07:06
    hand...see they have an Atomic Pi for sale for $33.95 US. Has a quad
    I only just started reading this - but it doesnt get a good review... https://hackaday.com/2019/06/06/the-atomic-pi-is-it-worth-it/

    Being an Atom quad-core...I was impressed with that...but lesser so needing
    to get a board to get it power. Gonna see what I can find to see if OS/2 will run on it.

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to The Millionaire on Tuesday, February 11, 2020 17:12:31
    Tried running the board on a RPi. Because of my being a NOOB (even after playing with it for many years)...ended up with more issues than I start with...so went back to Windows.
    Wow! Didn’t RPi was problematic.

    Many of us run our boards on them successfully...but it seemed like issues would start snowballing the longer the board ran. This would not have
    happened if I'd known more than just running Linux as a toy.

    Will need to do some more learning & try it again in the future.

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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Phoobar on Wednesday, February 12, 2020 12:41:00
    On 02-11-20 12:21, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    Was a nice idea if you had unlimited time to get it working. Even my experimentation with OS/2 & eventually ArcaOS soon...I can get it to
    boot & running.

    Yes, I do like MasOS as a desktop OS, so the appeal of the Hackintosh was strong, but I think waiting until I can afford a Mac is a better option. :)

    I have the original Banana Pi. Has GigE and 1G RAM, and copes with two BBSs no problem. :) Higher specs than the RPi of its day.

    Have Amazon open & they are impressive in their specs. On the other

    The Bana Pi are quite good, but I despise Amazon as a supplier, because the vast majority of products don't ship here. The Chinese suppliers like AliExpress are a much better prospect.

    hand...see they have an Atomic Pi for sale for $33.95 US. Has a quad
    core Atom processor with 2 GB of RAM & 16 GB if flash on board with everything any other other pi's have. They got an impressive review by
    the guy who runs Explaining Computers. Am going to have to see if
    anyone has run OS/2 or AOS on this.

    Now that sounds interesting. :)


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  • From Gamgee@21:2/138 to The Millionaire on Tuesday, February 11, 2020 21:06:00
    The Millionaire wrote to Phoobar <=-

    Tried running the board on a RPi. Because of my being a NOOB (even after playing with it for many years)...ended up with more issues than I started with...so went back to Windows.

    Wow! Didn't RPi was problematic.

    It isn't. What do you mean? The RPi works exceedingly well.



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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Vk3jed on Tuesday, February 11, 2020 20:26:41
    Yes, I do like MasOS as a desktop OS, so the appeal of the Hackintosh was strong, but I think waiting until I can afford a Mac is a better option. :)

    Agree with you on that...but have never seen a reason to pay a premium just because it's named after a fruit. Bought an Ipod 10 years ago & just pulled
    it out & wouldn't hold a charge. Add to that allowing Apple to hack your software on their phones to force you to upgrade...just not worth it to me.

    The Bana Pi are quite good, but I despise Amazon as a supplier, because the vast majority of products don't ship here. The Chinese suppliers
    like AliExpress are a much better prospect.

    Agree with you. The 1 thing they are good to use for is the reviews...then I
    go buy on Ebay...if I can get free shipping or a cheaper price which is
    cheaper than Amazon.

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  • From Netsurge@21:4/154 to Gamgee on Wednesday, February 12, 2020 00:43:42
    It isn't. What do you mean? The RPi works exceedingly well.

    Agreed. It is problematic for him.

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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Phoobar on Wednesday, February 12, 2020 19:21:00
    On 02-11-20 20:26, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    Yes, I do like MasOS as a desktop OS, so the appeal of the Hackintosh was strong, but I think waiting until I can afford a Mac is a better option. :)

    Agree with you on that...but have never seen a reason to pay a premium just because it's named after a fruit. Bought an Ipod 10 years ago &
    just pulled it out & wouldn't hold a charge. Add to that allowing Apple
    to hack your software on their phones to force you to upgrade...just
    not worth it to me.

    Hmm, I had a MacBook Pro years ago. Best laptop I ever had, until it died. :( Was rock solid.

    Agree with you. The 1 thing they are good to use for is the
    reviews...then I go buy on Ebay...if I can get free shipping or a
    cheaper price which is cheaper than Amazon.

    Well, Amazon for electronics is general not an option, as I said, they don't ship here. eBay is generally a good option, OTOH.


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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Vk3jed on Wednesday, February 12, 2020 03:39:39
    Hmm, I had a MacBook Pro years ago. Best laptop I ever had, until it died. :( Was rock solid.

    Remember coming across on of the old Panasonic laptops which were built like
    a tank. Looked like it was installed in a Halliburton suitcase.

    Well, Amazon for electronics is general not an option, as I said, they don't ship here. eBay is generally a good option, OTOH.

    For electronics...use NewEgg because of their selection & price. Was over
    there this evening looking at one of the lower end Ryzen chips & a board.
    Never got around to the DDR4 memory.

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  • From Spectre@21:3/101 to Phoobar on Thursday, February 13, 2020 00:59:00
    Well, Amazon for electronics is general not an option, as I said,

    For electronics...use NewEgg because of their selection & price. Was over

    While I don't buy much, and definitely not a lot of PC gear, I've bought a few things through banggood.. they've generally been pretty good.

    Spec


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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Phoobar on Thursday, February 13, 2020 07:47:00
    On 02-12-20 03:39, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    Remember coming across on of the old Panasonic laptops which were built like a tank. Looked like it was installed in a Halliburton suitcase.

    I don't remember those.

    For electronics...use NewEgg because of their selection & price. Was
    over there this evening looking at one of the lower end Ryzen chips & a board. Never got around to the DDR4 memory.

    Have to see if they ship here.


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  • From Blue White@21:4/134 to The Millionaire on Wednesday, February 12, 2020 16:40:44
    The Millionaire wrote to Blue White <=-



    4. I don't use Mystic BBS

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    Oh? What do you use then?

    MagickaBBS on a raspberry pi.



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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Spectre on Wednesday, February 12, 2020 22:26:06
    While I don't buy much, and definitely not a lot of PC gear, I've bought
    a few things through banggood.. they've generally been pretty good.

    Bought my 1st projector through them...one of those $35 jobs. Wasn't bad as long as it lasted...but it was nice watching TV with a projector.

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Vk3jed on Wednesday, February 12, 2020 22:43:49
    Remember coming across on of the old Panasonic laptops which were bui
    I don't remember those.

    Here's what they look like & they are not cheap:

    https://www.ocruggedlaptops.com/panasonic-toughbook-31-fully-rugged-laptop/?gcl id=CjwKCAiA4Y7yBRB8EiwADV1haXWkiZ8G6FgdDFAoznL0s6bSx3I5Wsq-_XDlb9kJ5BjrrcPBLNGj nRoCG_YQAvD_BwE

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  • From ryan@21:1/168 to Phoobar on Wednesday, February 12, 2020 23:35:46
    Here's what they look like & they are not cheap:

    I've broken one of these :P they aren't that tough. Had one fly up and hit me in the head pretty hard. Broke my nose and soem of the bones of my sinuses
    but smashed right through the screen and back of the chassis.

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to ryan on Thursday, February 13, 2020 00:20:42
    I've broken one of these :P they aren't that tough. Had one fly up and

    Recently...seen the local police with them in their cars.

    Could always build one of these out of an RPi...but make sure it's like the briefcase out of From Russia With Love...only with a built in pistol &
    several throwing knives. Have the screen pop up when you open the case & spy music playing when it opens. ;)

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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Phoobar on Thursday, February 13, 2020 20:19:00
    On 02-12-20 22:43, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    Remember coming across on of the old Panasonic laptops which were bui
    I don't remember those.

    Here's what they look like & they are not cheap:

    https://www.ocruggedlaptops.com/panasonic-toughbook-31-fully-rugged-lapt op/?gcl id=CjwKCAiA4Y7yBRB8EiwADV1haXWkiZ8G6FgdDFAoznL0s6bSx3I5Wsq-_XDlb9kJ5Bjrr cPBLNGj
    nRoCG_YQAvD_BwE

    Urk, I'm not stringing that together. Can't you TinyURL it?


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  • From Spectre@21:3/101 to Phoobar on Thursday, February 13, 2020 20:23:00
    Bought my 1st projector through them...one of those $35 jobs. Wasn't
    bad as long as it lasted...but it was nice watching TV with a
    projector.


    chuckle, I blew $5k on a projector about 25 years ago. A canon job, just before
    the dlp ones arrived..it was amazing playing QIII with a picture about 1.5x3M in size :) Still got it.. still works a treat, but I don't have a wall to display it on now.

    Then were the days....
    Spec


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  • From Spectre@21:3/101 to Phoobar on Thursday, February 13, 2020 20:30:00
    I've broken one of these :P they aren't that tough. Had one fly up
    and

    Recently...seen the local police with them in their cars.

    I seem to havw nissed a msg or two, what is this about?

    Spec


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to Phoobar on Thursday, February 13, 2020 07:13:00
    Phoobar wrote to ryan <=-

    Could always build one of these out of an RPi...but make sure it's like the briefcase out of From Russia With Love...

    I've seen some neat builds with Pelikan cases. Certainly would draw
    attention at the coffee shop. I'd put a fake little parabolic antenna and point it directly at one of the more annoying patrons.



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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Vk3jed on Thursday, February 13, 2020 12:02:23
    https://www.ocruggedlaptops.com/panasonic-toughbook-31-fully-rugged-l op/?gcl id=CjwKCAiA4Y7yBRB8EiwADV1haXWkiZ8G6FgdDFAoznL0s6bSx3I5Wsq-_XDlb9kJ5B cPBLNGj
    nRoCG_YQAvD_BwE
    Urk, I'm not stringing that together. Can't you TinyURL it?

    Have no idea on how to do that. Let me know where to do it to & will get it done.

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Spectre on Thursday, February 13, 2020 12:08:17
    chuckle, I blew $5k on a projector about 25 years ago. A canon job, just before the dlp ones arrived..it was amazing playing QIII with a picture about 1.5x3M in size :) Still got it.. still works a treat, but I don't have a wall to display it on now.

    Got an RCA one for about $45 refurbished off Ebay. Used to have it in my bedroom...but not enough wall space for the throw in the apartment. Got a
    piece of OSB & a shelf bracket. Mounted it to that & put it in the living
    room. Now...I have a 102" screen...but don't like to keep that area heated up...so am waiting for summer to use it with retro gaming systems.

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Spectre on Thursday, February 13, 2020 12:12:00
    Recently...seen the local police with them in their cars.
    I seem to havw nissed a msg or two, what is this about?

    It's the system the local police use. They love their Panasonic laptops.

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to poindexter FORTRAN on Thursday, February 13, 2020 12:18:03
    Could always build one of these out of an RPi...but make sure it's li the briefcase out of From Russia With Love...
    I've seen some neat builds with Pelikan cases. Certainly would draw attention at the coffee shop. I'd put a fake little parabolic antenna
    and point it directly at one of the more annoying patrons.

    Forgot the sound effects...gotta have the sound effects. ;)

    Chances are it would be the same as the episode of The IT Crowd called The Speech where the guys wrote her speech to make her look smart & they didn't
    get the effect they were expecting until the very last. Haven't seen it...ya got to...especially since the "Masters of the Internet" would like you to.
    It's my favorite episode I watch over & over.

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  • From Blue White@21:4/134 to The Millionaire on Thursday, February 13, 2020 17:51:01
    The Millionaire wrote to Phoobar <=-

    Wow! Didn’t RPi was problematic.

    It may depend on what BBS software you try to run on it also.



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  • From Blue White@21:4/134 to Phoobar on Thursday, February 13, 2020 17:51:29
    Being an Atom quad-core...I was impressed with that...but lesser so needing to get a board to get it power. Gonna see what I can find to
    see if OS/2 will run on it.

    I am also curious about this. :)



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  • From Blue White@21:4/134 to Phoobar on Thursday, February 13, 2020 17:52:20
    Phoobar wrote to The Millionaire <=-

    Many of us run our boards on them successfully...but it seemed like
    issues would start snowballing the longer the board ran. This would not have happened if I'd known more than just running Linux as a toy.

    Will need to do some more learning & try it again in the future.

    I am sure you thought about this, but could it have been an SD card issue?
    The "longer (it) ran" comment made me wonder about that.


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  • From Blue White@21:4/134 to Netsurge on Thursday, February 13, 2020 17:53:39
    Netsurge wrote to Gamgee <=-

    It isn't. What do you mean? The RPi works exceedingly well.

    Agreed. It is problematic for him.

    He was responding to someone who said they had issues running a BBS on one.


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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Blue White on Friday, February 14, 2020 00:27:27
    Being an Atom quad-core...I was impressed with that...but lesser so needing to get a board to get it power. Gonna see what I can find to see if OS/2 will run on it.
    I am also curious about this. :)

    It would be a good search to see...but when I can get a netbook for around $50-100...that would be roughly the same amount as this board from a failed robotics company.

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Blue White on Friday, February 14, 2020 00:29:32
    Will need to do some more learning & try it again in the future.
    I am sure you thought about this, but could it have been an SD card
    issue? The "longer (it) ran" comment made me wonder about that.

    Nope. Was running the board off of a 20GB Samsung laptop drive I had in my
    360 Phat when I switched it out for a 500 GB. Just had the SD card to boot
    the OS...while the BBS software was on the HDD.

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  • From Jimmy Anderson@21:2/136 to The Millionaire on Wednesday, February 12, 2020 22:57:00
    The Millionaire wrote to All <=-

    What operating system do you like to use the most with Mystic BBS?

    1. Windows
    2. OSX
    3. Linux

    I dial up with synTERM via OSX



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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Phoobar on Saturday, February 15, 2020 11:58:00
    On 02-13-20 12:02, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    https://www.ocruggedlaptops.com/panasonic-toughbook-31-fully-rugged-l op/?gcl id=CjwKCAiA4Y7yBRB8EiwADV1haXWkiZ8G6FgdDFAoznL0s6bSx3I5Wsq-_XDlb9kJ5B cPBLNGj
    nRoCG_YQAvD_BwE
    Urk, I'm not stringing that together. Can't you TinyURL it?

    Have no idea on how to do that. Let me know where to do it to & will
    get it done.

    Go to tinyurl.com and in the box provided, paste the link to the actual website. Then a "TinyURL" will be displayed, which you can copy and paste into a message.


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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Vk3jed on Friday, February 14, 2020 22:31:50
    Go to tinyurl.com and in the box provided, paste the link to the actual website. Then a "TinyURL" will be displayed, which you can copy and
    paste into a message.

    KEWL! Will get it done.

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Vk3jed on Friday, February 14, 2020 22:34:13
    https://tinyurl.com/s52muov

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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Phoobar on Saturday, February 15, 2020 20:29:00
    On 02-14-20 22:31, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    Go to tinyurl.com and in the box provided, paste the link to the actual website. Then a "TinyURL" will be displayed, which you can copy and
    paste into a message.

    KEWL! Will get it done.

    Cool! :)


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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Phoobar on Saturday, February 15, 2020 20:31:00
    On 02-14-20 22:34, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    https://tinyurl.com/s52muov

    Cool, that worked. Now I know what you were talking about. :)


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to Phoobar on Friday, February 14, 2020 06:11:00
    Phoobar wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

    Chances are it would be the same as the episode of The IT Crowd called
    The Speech where the guys wrote her speech to make her look smart &
    they didn't get the effect they were expecting until the very last. Haven't seen it...ya got to...especially since the "Masters of the Internet" would like you to. It's my favorite episode I watch over &
    over.

    "STEVEN HAWKING KNOWS WHO I AM?"

    (I think that was the line...)


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  • From Blue White@21:4/134 to Phoobar on Saturday, February 15, 2020 08:56:57
    Phoobar wrote to Blue White <=-

    It would be a good search to see...but when I can get a netbook for
    around $50-100...that would be roughly the same amount as this board
    from a failed robotics company.

    The one issue you would have with running OS/2 Warp 4 on an SBC by itself
    would be hardware support. Even with the Atomic Pi having an Intel CPU, I don't think that OS/2 would support the HDMI video or even the USB port. I think you'd have to run it as an image on the underlying linux system in
    order to get it to work.

    Arca might be a different story but, seeing as you'd likely be the first to
    try it, I am guessing it might be a frustrating story. :)

    I have thought about getting one to use as an NFS server to replace the old PIII I have currently doing that. It should have less power draw and be at least a little faster.

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Vk3jed on Saturday, February 15, 2020 23:50:21
    https://tinyurl.com/s52muov
    Cool, that worked. Now I know what you were talking about. :)

    I've seen those types of links...but never knew how they were done. BAH...I learned something new.;)

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to poindexter FORTRAN on Sunday, February 16, 2020 00:02:15
    Haven't seen it...ya got to...especially since the "Masters of the Internet" would like you to. It's my favorite episode I watch over & over.
    "STEVEN HAWKING KNOWS WHO I AM?"

    Yep...I just talked to the Masters of the Internet not one hour ago. As long
    as it's been fully demagnetized by the Hawk...then I guess it's okay.

    I watch 2 episodes when I have an hour for lunch. Make sure if you have an emergency...you now dial...0118 999 881 999 119 725....3.

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  • From Netsurge@21:4/154 to Phoobar on Sunday, February 16, 2020 03:05:58
    I watch 2 episodes when I have an hour for lunch. Make sure if you have
    an emergency...you now dial...0118 999 881 999 119 725....3.

    "Which country am I calling"

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Blue White on Sunday, February 16, 2020 00:18:24
    The one issue you would have with running OS/2 Warp 4 on an SBC by itself would be hardware support. Even with the Atomic Pi having an Intel CPU,
    I don't think that OS/2 would support the HDMI video or even the USB
    port. I think you'd have to run it as an image on the underlying linux system in order to get it to work.

    The current board is running on an EEE 1.6 GHz running on VGA into the
    monitor I have my main system plugged into the DVI connector. Even have a few of those HDMI to VGA converters which do work pretty well.

    Arca might be a different story but, seeing as you'd likely be the first to try it, I am guessing it might be a frustrating story. :)

    True...but if Arca is doing the upgrades they claim to be...should be able to get it to work. It's a lot of work...but always liked Warp more than I liked Linux. At least there are more people working on this than Amiga which was
    even better for everything we liked in the day...if only the owners of Commodore hadn't blew it up like they did.

    I have thought about getting one to use as an NFS server to replace the old PIII I have currently doing that. It should have less power draw
    and be at least a little faster.

    That might work pretty well...especially if you needed it headless and doing only that on it.

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Netsurge on Sunday, February 16, 2020 00:43:31
    an emergency...you now dial...0118 999 881 999 119 725....3.
    "Which country am I calling"

    What operating system is the laptop running to control the robot? Vista!
    We're all gonna die!

    Have you turned it off & on again. YEAH!!! It's all right...I just won 100 quid!

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  • From tenser@21:1/101 to Blue White on Sunday, February 16, 2020 23:09:07
    On 15 Feb 2020 at 08:56a, Blue White pondered and said...

    I have thought about getting one to use as an NFS server to replace the old PIII I have currently doing that. It should have less power draw
    and be at least a little faster.

    Hmm. I looked at the specs of that thing and it doesn't
    appear to have any significant storage interface; no SATA,
    no NVMe. I found a blog post where some guy removed the
    Ethernet connector and some 0201 connectors and managed
    to solder on some cables that connected to an external PCIe
    riser. So, theoretically you could add in NVMe or an
    external SATA controller, with a better Ethernet interface,
    but it looks like a real bear, and your SMT soldering
    skills really need to be on point.

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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Phoobar on Sunday, February 16, 2020 20:43:00
    On 02-15-20 23:50, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    https://tinyurl.com/s52muov
    Cool, that worked. Now I know what you were talking about. :)

    I've seen those types of links...but never knew how they were done. BAH...I learned something new.;)

    Very useful for BBSing. :)


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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Vk3jed on Sunday, February 16, 2020 23:40:32
    I've seen those types of links...but never knew how they were done. BAH...I learned something new.;)
    Very useful for BBSing. :)

    Totally agree & not just for BBS's.

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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Phoobar on Monday, February 17, 2020 19:25:00
    On 02-16-20 23:40, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    I've seen those types of links...but never knew how they were done. BAH...I learned something new.;)
    Very useful for BBSing. :)

    Totally agree & not just for BBS's.

    True, I've used them for all sorts of reasons.


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