Aroma different, mouthfeel different, taste
different.

Yup.

I wonder if anyone's thought about pursuing the
manufacturer for deceptive advertising.

Probably many a person thought about it, but decided it wasn't worth
going after.... the effort, anyway.... :)

Company lawyer: we said I can't believe it's not butter;
we never said you couldn't believe it's not butter.

I tended to cross boundaries, even then, also... sorta fit in anywhere (and sorta not at all as well)...

I sort of enjoyed being the leader and voice of the
unleadable and voiceless.

Are you sure we aren't twins separated at birth, after all...? ;) I, likewise... ;)

Heh. Perhaps we would have been the two rival
candidates for the title of King of the Thieves.

foreshots and feints, too.

Ok... feints sounds like A... but the ones I mentioned didn't follow the rhyme's direction....

Feints was another example, but foreshots go along with.

Yes... and foreshots accepted, too.... But you appear to have either
missed my point or ignored it... :) All the words I listed don't sound
like A as in neighbor or weigh, but generally like I (or E, in the case
of either and neither)....

Probably read right over it. I'm not supposed to
ignore anyone's posts, but things may occasionally
fall through the cracks.

Not really.... Some of them challenged me more by their choices... but that also happened once with a non-family member...

It's kind of fun to be stretched, but I'd not have
gone out of my way for someone who didn't seem to
live up to my standards. Not a good attitude for a
commercial person, but I wasn't great at that either.

And I was never a commercial person... :)

Sometimes I wonder if it would have been more
fun had I been a wealthy man, but there was that
guilty conscience thing - did I cheat 'em too much,
and did their children starve in the gutter as a
consequence?

In general, I found myself playing better for clients
to whom I was more favorably inclined because they
were simpatici or knew music or paid double.

As with my piano teaching, I didn't really have a lot of gigs or students... just enough to have a steady trickle (not even a

stream)...

Eh, it probably is better for your psyche not to
have to rush rush and scramble scramble.

Probably... I didn't have to make a living at it... which was a good
thing... ;)

And there's that too.

Oh, how romantic.... Was Traviata Puccini...?

Traviata was Verdi. Come to think of it, this in
fact might also have been Verdi.

Ok, that's what I thought... Verdi had his share of that sort of
heroines, too.... :)

Oh, yeah. Sex sells, almost as well as death.

but you may have heard of him. We called him J. Loathsome
Toad, which name he partially deserved. That was mild
compared to the vile accusations slung against other local
potentates such as Ozawa and Levine (most of them true).

Yes, I heard about Levine's demise thanks to the #metoo movement...
along with other icons....

Nobody's perfect, but some are more imperfect
than others, and some violated even the laxer
norms of the day. The maestro, well, going after
the young and vulnerable, that did not go unnoticed
- nor uncomplained about. The rich patrons gave him
a pass because they thought he was a great genius,
but was he really one - I thought not, and is
anyone a great enough genius to make up for
ravishing children, and my answer to that is no.

Wouldn't they need to be listed in the ingredients still, though...?

They're often listed by brand name. I don't know
a requirement for them to be further broken down.

I meant on the packages for the sweeteners themselves, not when they are listed on other products.... :)

Oh, yeah, for sure, but a certain amount
of weasel wording is allowed even there.

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Generally faster, though, as I noted earlier, Fontaine
was the house keyboardist of the Detroit Symphony and had
once had quite remarkable chops, so when she couldn't do
up to tempo, the frustration showed (not to the audience,
but to us).

I've accompanied some musicians who were like that... not particularly a pleasant experience....

Sometimes it's interesting, especially when it
doesn't get out of hand. There have been
performances that benefited from bizarre levels
of nervous tension, angst even.

That's impressive.... how long ago was that....?

Thirty-something, when I was thirty-something. That was the
pianist who took the coda of the Saint-Saens violin sonata at
200 something, when it's marked at 160, and Heifetz took it
at 180-ish. I didn't pay attention until he told me when
listening to the recording of a performance we did in Boston.

The "he" that told you was the pianist...?

Yeah - he was the only he in the story except
for Saint-Saens, who was dead at the time.

White meat turkey tastes better to me than white
meat chicken. It has some savor to it at least.

Might depend on the particular turkey breast... most of what I've had doesn't have much savor to it to speak of... not unlike the chicken...

At least it all has some kind of aroma, that's to
say regarding the fresh roasted, not deli stuff.

I suppose... :)

I'm not expecting to convert you to white meat
turkey - it's hard enough for me to convince me
to eat it (the roasted, at least). As I've noted,
cutlets and croquettes and pojarskis and such can
be more than acceptable.

We all need places like that in our back pocket.

Rochester tends to have a lot of that around... ;)

Good thing is that second-tier serviceable places
most often charge second-tier affordable prices.

Not so much in this case... well, maybe, but we are spoiled by Fu's more
than reasonable prices... :)

The better to feed you with, my dear.

... Pour Champagne into flute. Drink. Makes lovely music.

Won't it drip out the holes?

Not if it's the glass, not the instrument.... ;)

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Title: KAHLUA SWIRL CAKE
Categories: Cyberealm, Kooknet, Cakes, Desserts
Yield: 8 servings

* Streusel Filling: 1/3 c Packed brown sugar 1/3 c Chopped
pecans 1/4 t Cinnamon 1/4 t Mace (this spice makes
- the cake!)
* Cake:
2 c Sifted all-purpose flour
1 t Baking powder 3/4 t Baking soda 3/4 t Salt 1/2 t Mace 1/2 c
Butter or margarine,
- softened 1 1/4 c Granulated sugar
2 Eggs
1 t Vanilla 3/4 c Sour cream 3/4 c Kahlua
* Kahlua Glaze: 3/4 c Sifted powdered sugar
2 T Softened butter
1 T Kahlua

1) Grease and flour 9 in. fluted tube pan. Preheat oven to 350ÿF.

2) Prepare Streusel Filling: Mix ingredients and set aside.

3) Prepare Cake batter: Re-sift flour with baking powder, soda, salt
and mace. (I never do any sifting, but this is what the recipe calls
for) In large bowl, combine butter, sugar, eggs, and vanilla. Beat 2
min. on medium speed (batter may appear curdled). On lowest speed,
blend in flour alternately with sour cream and Kahlua.

4) Turn 1/3 batter into prepared pan. Cover with 1/2 Streusel
Filling, an additional 1/3 batter and remaining Streusel. Top with
remaining batter.

5) Bake on rack below oven center for 45 min., or until golden brown.
Remove and let stand 10 min. Invert on cake rack; cool till lukewarm
(with pan on top).

6) While cake is cooling, prepare Kahlua Glaze: Combine ingredients
and beat until smooth.

7) Remove pan and spoon glaze over top of lukewarm cake. Top with
pecan halves if desired. Serves 8-10.

8) Enjoy!

from "KAHLUA--Recipe Book"

Re-posted by Lois Flack, CYBEREALM-KOOKNET, (315)786-1120, Watertown,
NY

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On 06-09-19 20:52, Michael Loo <=-
spoke to Nancy Backus about 501 little annoyances + w <=-

Sometimes I wonder if it would have been more
fun had I been a wealthy man, but there was that
guilty conscience thing - did I cheat 'em too much,
and did their children starve in the gutter as a
consequence?

So instead you took up the fiddle (sorry about calling your violin a
fiddle). Did you ever get up on the roof to play it?


MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

Title: Salisbury Steak with Onion Gravy
Categories: Toh, Testing, Easy
Yield: 2 Servings

10 oz Ground beef
1 l Egg
1 ea Condensed French onion soup
Undiluted divided
1/3 c Panko crumbs
1/4 t Salt
1 ds Pepper
1 tb Flour
1/4 c Water
1/4 c Catsup
1 tb Worchester
1/4 ts Prepared mustard
2 c Cooked egg noodles

in large bowl mix egg,,stir in 1/3 cup of soup, bread crumbs, salt and
pepper. Add beef, mix gently. Shape into two oval patties. Brown in
skillet over medium heat 3 to 4 minutes per side.

Remove and set patties aside. Discard drippings,

In skillet combine flour and water until smooth. Add catsup,
Worchestershire sauce, mustaed and remaining soup. Cover and bring
to a boil. Cook and stir for 2 minutes.

Return the patties to skillet. Cover and simmer 15 minute or until
patties are no longer pink.

Serve patties and gravy over noodles.

TOH Ground Beef Cookbook

testing 3/13/17

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