I have an organ version of it... that part is in the pedals.... when

Seems everyone has to endure that scourge
sometime in this vale of tears ...

I've played it, many a time I've had Richard on the bench with me,
turning pages, and doing that almost mindless part, freeing me to

... even noncombatants.

concentrate on the much more challenging upper three voices on the two manuals... ;) He's always done creditably... (G)

That's how you can tell playing the organ is so hard
- you get more than one manual.

In about 6 weeks I get to play
Fiddler on the Roof; I said yes purely for the dough.

Are you playing the Fiddler violin part...? or just part of an ensemble...?

Yah, I'se the real thing.

I'm presuming that you have that part indelibly in your memory so that

That is so. As much as cellists with the Swan or
Kanon.

reading music would be superfluous, even if you could see it...?

... or even misleading.

Talented amateurs get to choose their gigs.
Beyond that there's this vast area of varying
degrees of slavery and indenture, until one gets
to be Yo-Yo, which doesn't happen very often.

Once one retires, does that get one into the ranks of the talented amateurs...? ;)

Sometimes. today it feels like untalented
amateur hour, though.

professional musicians as part of our church, most are and have been

RPO people among them, right?

Yup, along with Roberts Wesleyan faculty, and connections with other
music schools (Hochstein, Eastman, etc)....

Sounds like good company.

Chipped notes and skipped beats are forgivable
when there's kindliness and good intent behind.
If they don't happen in performance.

Are you referring to the less talented there...? or the talented...? :)

The less talented the greater the leeway, unless there's
a bigger than one's britches issue, in which muttered
imprecations should and do become less muted and muttered.

Generally any performance ends up pretty decent, the more talented
covering for the less... the less talented getting some experience that
helps them grow, too... :)

That's saying it's 2/3 full when it's really 2/3 empty!

Was there a conscious effort to mold the

family members into ensembles? Ma and Pa

playing the violin, perhaps, which leaves
viola and cello for the kids.

Both parents played the piano, quite creditably... Not sure if Aunt

Well, all the important clefs were covered.

Sylvia played any string instrument or not... Uncle Sam also played
recorder (fipple flute), and I think Aunt Sylvia did also... Lydia put together a family group for my wedding consisting of mostly their family
on recorders and strings... But in their family, I'm pretty sure that

My sister had my ex-girlfriend and me play the
Telemann canonic sonatas for her wedding. I also
played for her replacement's wedding to my b-i-l.

all five girls learned to play some string instrument, probably the
other three were all violins... but they didn't go on to be
professionals... Sheila, the cellist, taught cello, viola and violin...
They also sang together as a family... :)

A little high-voice-heavy, though.

Seems like a bit of a distance in their relationship as well as a lack
of concern for the details....

They adored each other. But he was a handyman
and house painter, and she was one of the few
women principals in a sort of major orchestra.
Nisalliances sometimes work.

Oh, ok... I just would have thought he'd've been more aware of her work,
but perhaps not... :)

He was a nice guy, but completely lacking
in initiative.

Ah.. ok... it felt like that sort of a retort... ;)

"Ah, H2SO4, Professor! Don't synthesize anything
I wouldn't synthesize. And the reciprocal of pi
to your good wife."

Is that F&S, too...? I'm a lot less familiar with their repertoire...

[C.P. Snow] says it's no good going up to a scientist
and saying to him as you would to anybody else, you
know, "good morning, how are you, lend me a quid" and
so on, I mean he'll just glare at you or make a rude
retort or something. No, you have to speak to him in
language that he'll understand. I mean you go up to
him and say something like, "Ah, H2SO4 Professor!
Don't synthesize anything I wouldn't synthesize.
Oh, and the reciprocal of pi to your good wife."
Now, this he will understand.

- First and Second Law of Thermodynamics, F&S, At
the Drop of Another Hat

Oh, yes. I hate being primus, but it's fine
being primus inter pares.

Exactly.

It was fun being concertmaster, but not when there
were big solos.

Well, of course, one is more likely to have noticed all the errors and mishaps.... but there are some people whose opinion is genuine and
reality based... ;)

But being one of those myself, I wonder what they're
really thinking!

It depends on the person... I've known some very generous professionals
that even when they do notice the shortcomings will be encouraging to
the performer (and admit to having the bad times themselves)... and also

Nobody's perfect!

some rather ungenerous ones that don't notice their own mistakes as much

I read "degenerate."

as they do those of others, and are super-critical... but then the
latter wouldn't be telling you how nicely you performed, either...

For sure. I've met both kinds; the latter were the
more likely to be my direct competition. There was
this girl from BU who was always one step behind me
who, one day, at the pub after a concert, made a
tirade that ended "and I'm better than you." To
which i didn't say anything but thought (as I hope
the others did as well), well then, why are you
always one step (or stand) behind me?

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Quoting Michael Loo to Nancy Backus on 04-14-19 08:24 <=-

I have an organ version of it... that part is in the pedals.... when

Seems everyone has to endure that scourge
sometime in this vale of tears ...

I've played it, many a time I've had Richard on the bench with me,
turning pages, and doing that almost mindless part, freeing me to

... even noncombatants.

Fortunately, I've not HAD to play it too often, and I generally still
rather enjoy it therefore... ;)

concentrate on the much more challenging upper three voices on the two manuals... ;) He's always done creditably... (G)

That's how you can tell playing the organ is so hard
- you get more than one manual.

And some organs, one gets 4 or 5 manuals.... takes a long time to read
through all of those... (G)

In about 6 weeks I get to play
Fiddler on the Roof; I said yes purely for the dough.

Are you playing the Fiddler violin part...? or just part of an ensemble...?

Yah, I'se the real thing.

I'm presuming that you have that part indelibly in your memory so that

That is so. As much as cellists with the Swan or
Kanon.

Figured as much... ;)

reading music would be superfluous, even if you could see it...?

... or even misleading.

Indeed.

Talented amateurs get to choose their gigs.
Beyond that there's this vast area of varying
degrees of slavery and indenture, until one gets
to be Yo-Yo, which doesn't happen very often.

Once one retires, does that get one into the ranks of the talented amateurs...? ;)

Sometimes. today it feels like untalented
amateur hour, though.

Oh, dear...

professional musicians as part of our church, most are and have been

RPO people among them, right?

Yup, along with Roberts Wesleyan faculty, and connections with other
music schools (Hochstein, Eastman, etc)....

Sounds like good company.

Generally... :)

Chipped notes and skipped beats are forgivable
when there's kindliness and good intent behind.
If they don't happen in performance.

Are you referring to the less talented there...? or the talented...? :)

The less talented the greater the leeway, unless there's
a bigger than one's britches issue, in which muttered
imprecations should and do become less muted and muttered.

Yeah, bigger than one's britches issues do lessen tolerance and forebearance.... ;)

Generally any performance ends up pretty decent, the more talented
covering for the less... the less talented getting some experience that helps them grow, too... :)

That's saying it's 2/3 full when it's really 2/3 empty!

Generally here that's more a 1/2 full 1/2 empty proposition... :)

Was there a conscious effort to mold the
family members into ensembles? Ma and Pa
playing the violin, perhaps, which leaves
viola and cello for the kids.

Both parents played the piano, quite creditably...

Well, all the important clefs were covered.

One way or another... :)

Not sure if Aunt Sylvia played any string instrument or not... Uncle Sam also played recorder (fipple flute), and I think Aunt Sylvia did also... Lydia put together a family group for my wedding consisting of mostly
their family on recorders and strings...

My sister had my ex-girlfriend and me play the
Telemann canonic sonatas for her wedding. I also
played for her replacement's wedding to my b-i-l.

Musicians in the family do get called upon... ;) I played various
instruments in various family weddings... ;)

But in their family, I'm pretty sure that
all five girls learned to play some string instrument, probably the
other three were all violins... but they didn't go on to be
professionals... Sheila, the cellist, taught cello, viola and violin... They also sang together as a family... :)

A little high-voice-heavy, though.

Both instrumental as well as voice, yes... ;) Especially as Uncle Sam
was a tenor... :) Possibly one or more of the girls could sing tenor
(don't think any of them was a true tenor, as I am, though), and Uncle
Sam could sing church bass fine.... :)

Ah.. ok... it felt like that sort of a retort... ;)

"Ah, H2SO4, Professor! Don't synthesize anything
I wouldn't synthesize. And the reciprocal of pi
to your good wife."

Is that F&S, too...? I'm a lot less familiar with their repertoire...

[C.P. Snow] says it's no good going up to a scientist
and saying to him as you would to anybody else, you
know, "good morning, how are you, lend me a quid" and
so on, I mean he'll just glare at you or make a rude
retort or something. No, you have to speak to him in
language that he'll understand. I mean you go up to
him and say something like, "Ah, H2SO4 Professor!
Don't synthesize anything I wouldn't synthesize.
Oh, and the reciprocal of pi to your good wife."
Now, this he will understand.
- First and Second Law of Thermodynamics, F&S, At
the Drop of Another Hat

Ah, ok... :) the mention of H2SO4 reminded me of a joke or two Daddy
used to tell... one of them: Harry was a chemist, now he is no more; for
what he thought was H2O was H2SO4. And the other, the professor was
asking the student what H2SO4 stood for, and the student replies "I know
what that is, I have it on the tip of my tongue", to which the professor replies, "Spit it out man, it's poison!"

Oh, yes. I hate being primus, but it's fine
being primus inter pares.

Exactly.

It was fun being concertmaster, but not when there
were big solos.

A bit too much pressure there.... and spotlight....

Well, of course, one is more likely to have noticed all the errors and mishaps.... but there are some people whose opinion is genuine and reality based... ;)

But being one of those myself, I wonder what they're
really thinking!

It depends on the person... I've known some very generous professionals
that even when they do notice the shortcomings will be encouraging to
the performer (and admit to having the bad times themselves)... and also

Nobody's perfect!

Exactly

some rather ungenerous ones that don't notice their own mistakes as much

I read "degenerate."

Appropriate... :)

as they do those of others, and are super-critical... but then the
latter wouldn't be telling you how nicely you performed, either...

For sure. I've met both kinds; the latter were the
more likely to be my direct competition. There was
this girl from BU who was always one step behind me
who, one day, at the pub after a concert, made a
tirade that ended "and I'm better than you." To
which i didn't say anything but thought (as I hope
the others did as well), well then, why are you
always one step (or stand) behind me?

Very insecure, there.... and apparently thought too highly of herself...
or was trying to convince herself... :)

ttyl neb

... If all the world is a stage where does the audience sit?

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