Choice between a rock and a hard place or the devil & the deep blue

sea.
If you want to put it that way, yes.

Do you want a computer programmed to do a rigid, based only on the data
input by a human (and prone to errors) or a human who can take into
account variables not available to the machine?

If we're still talking about assistive devices, most
of the time I'd pick the machine on the theory that I'm
not important enough to have my assistive technology
hacked. A tested computer-guided device would be at
least as trustworthy as a possibly froward canine
trained by a possibly froward human. And it piddles
and poops less frequently, because it doesn't eat much.

So I've always hated the idea of glass cockpits and
am thinking that airplane systems could be hacked to
amazing effect. This 737 Max thing is kind of getting
to me.

Steve said something about it this morning, basically on the order of
looking into alternatives, if needs be. We have the option, given enough

It becomes a concern. And the other day there was a
computer crash affecting all the major airlines and
most of the major airports. I wouldn't be so concerned
about a personal VR system, though.

time, of driving & taking the camper but that wouldn't always be a
workable choice. Couldn't have parked it for a week in Seattle when we
went on the cruise. (G)

Nah, Hap's driveway is already full.

see does most of his measuring by the eyeball method.

If it works for you, don't belittle your methodology.

That was a joke.

It's also half serious--whatever works best for you, go for it. Just don't try to make something that calls for small, precise

measurements > unless you know how much your "pinch" really is.
Mine wasn't.

Mine probably would be. (G)

Uncle Matty's Hot Dogs with Onions
categories: Italian-American, sausafes, main
servings: 8 to 10

2 pk hot dogs
5 lg onions
4 garlic cloves
3 c tomato sauce
1 1/2 c water
1 Tb dried parsley
red pepper flakes (tt)
oil to saute onions

Cut onions in 1/2 and then slice into 1/2 rounds.
Put about 2 turns of a pans worth of extra virgin
olive oil and saute the onions until they start
to get golden.

Meanwhile, mince the garlic. Take the hot dogs
and cut them into coins. Not too thin.

When the onions start to get golden, add the red
pepper flakes, parsley and garlic to the pan. When
you start to smell the garlic add the tomato sauce
and water;

When the sauce thickens add the hot dogs and let
cook for 20 to 30 min to arm through.

We make sandwiches on Italian bread but you could
easily serve this over rice or a short cut pasta.

Cathy LaFay, justapinch.com

Though I'm pretty apprehensive about what happens to
the rest of the flying fleet if Boeing goes down.
Maybe it'll be reincarnated as a maintenance provider.

I'm not even going to think about the possible ramifications to the

air > travel industry.
It's kind of not so remote for me.

I know, but for travel in the States or within Europe, you could switch
to trains. Don't know if you would want to take a cruise over to Europe
tho.

Again, I'm not really into planning for really
remote eventualities.

be advertised as such, by the arcane rules.

Close enough to fat free to be labeled as such.

Yeah, and there are lots of foods that qualify for
the labeling that really aren't. It shouldn't be
this way.

Do you think your wheel is squeaky enough to get the grease that

will > change the whole food labelling industry?
My wheel isn't very squeaky, never was.

No, but combine it with enough other not very squeaky wheels and you get
a loud enough one that gets the grease.

That would involve squeaking loud enough to
rally other squeakers!

Can't win for losing.

Can't win by losing, either.

Unless it's unwanted pounds.

Even so.

Some of them have a tendency to find their way back on.

Pounds come home to roost.

The Catholics have even stricter criteria for
the term, going back to the etymology, which
is also why I'm disinclined to use it at all.

I'm not familiar with it off the top of my head (forgotten 99.99% of my
high school Latin) but might remember it if I heard it. My definition is basic enough that the point can be understood by most everybody.

It's a question of what terminologies you're
sensitive to. The word I hate most is nonreligious
but irritating: "foodie."

be thankful that the typical smuggler of
weapons is merely clueless rather than
malevolent.

Most often it's a case of the contraband being in the luggage from a
previous trip and not noticed when packing. I try to empty out the
luggage completely before stowing it away to avoid unexpects surprises
like that.

Often it is, but that doesn't excuse the gal with
a gun and ammo who made it to Japan undetected this
January! She was apparently totally oblivious and
quite chastened (turned herself into the cops after
landing in Tokyo).

I'd agree with you there. It's been a while since we flew in/out of

Sky > Harbor--that was the one we'd use when we were in HI and our
girls were > (both) in AZ. Hawaiian had an overnight flight from Honolulu to Sky

Harbor--very convenient for us.

And it seems likewise that this particular
transgressor was not significantly dangerous.

Probably in a hurry and didn't pay attention to the signs on the door or
some other innocent mis step.

It wasn't in the news later, so one has no idea.

I'm very much a purist when it comes to
blueberries. Cranberries, not so much,
the sky's the limit.

Other than craisins, I tend to ignore cranberries in all forms.

They are sort of eh, average in nutrition, but
if you want to acidify, they're very good. They
can't really be substituted for in some recipes,
cranberry-orange bread, cranberry sauce,and so on.
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Hi Michael,

Choice between a rock and a hard place or the devil & the

deep blue > ML> sea.

If you want to put it that way, yes.

Do you want a computer programmed to do a rigid, based only on the

data > input by a human (and prone to errors) or a human who can take
into

account variables not available to the machine?

If we're still talking about assistive devices, most
of the time I'd pick the machine on the theory that I'm
not important enough to have my assistive technology
hacked. A tested computer-guided device would be at
least as trustworthy as a possibly froward canine
trained by a possibly froward human. And it piddles
and poops less frequently, because it doesn't eat much.

I still think it would be a toss up in some aspects, others, one or the
other would be a clear winner.

So I've always hated the idea of glass cockpits and
am thinking that airplane systems could be hacked to
amazing effect. This 737 Max thing is kind of getting
to me.

Steve said something about it this morning, basically on the order

of > looking into alternatives, if needs be. We have the option, given enough

It becomes a concern. And the other day there was a
computer crash affecting all the major airlines and
most of the major airports. I wouldn't be so concerned
about a personal VR system, though.

It's beginning to get quite concerning.

time, of driving & taking the camper but that wouldn't always be a workable choice. Couldn't have parked it for a week in Seattle when

we > went on the cruise. (G)

Nah, Hap's driveway is already full.

We would have had to plan to be gone much longer than we were. We'd have probably stopped to visit our daughters either on the way out to Seattle
or on the way back.

it. Just > ML> > don't try to make something that calls for small, precise

measurements > unless you know how much your "pinch" really is. Mine wasn't.

Mine probably would be. (G)

Uncle Matty's Hot Dogs with Onions
categories: Italian-American, sausafes, main
servings: 8 to 10

2 pk hot dogs
5 lg onions
4 garlic cloves
3 c tomato sauce
1 1/2 c water
1 Tb dried parsley

**************

I'd probably use Italian seasoning here, or add some oregano & maybe a
bit of basil to the parsley.

We make sandwiches on Italian bread but you could
easily serve this over rice or a short cut pasta.

Cathy LaFay, justapinch.com

to the > ML> air > travel industry.

It's kind of not so remote for me.

I know, but for travel in the States or within Europe, you could

switch > to trains. Don't know if you would want to take a cruise over
to Europe > tho.

Again, I'm not really into planning for really
remote eventualities.

Doubtful any of us would have to resort to private boats or whatever to
get to Europe, Asia, etc.

be advertised as such, by the arcane rules.

Close enough to fat free to be labeled as such.

Yeah, and there are lots of foods that qualify for
the labeling that really aren't. It shouldn't be
this way.

Do you think your wheel is squeaky enough to get the grease

that > ML> will > change the whole food labelling industry?

My wheel isn't very squeaky, never was.

No, but combine it with enough other not very squeaky wheels and you

get > a loud enough one that gets the grease.

That would involve squeaking loud enough to
rally other squeakers!

How loudly can you squeak?

Can't win for losing.

Can't win by losing, either.

Unless it's unwanted pounds.

Even so.

Some of them have a tendency to find their way back on.

Pounds come home to roost.

Usually so.

The Catholics have even stricter criteria for
the term, going back to the etymology, which
is also why I'm disinclined to use it at all.

I'm not familiar with it off the top of my head (forgotten 99.99% of

my > high school Latin) but might remember it if I heard it. My
definition is > basic enough that the point can be understood by most everybody.

It's a question of what terminologies you're
sensitive to. The word I hate most is nonreligious
but irritating: "foodie."

That's a term I dislike also. There are others that certain food related personalities use that are equally off putting.

Most often it's a case of the contraband being in the luggage from a previous trip and not noticed when packing. I try to empty out the luggage completely before stowing it away to avoid unexpects

surprises > like that.

Often it is, but that doesn't excuse the gal with
a gun and ammo who made it to Japan undetected this
January! She was apparently totally oblivious and
quite chastened (turned herself into the cops after
landing in Tokyo).

I missed hearing about that one, doesn't matter at this point.

I'd agree with you there. It's been a while since we flew

in/out of > ML> Sky > Harbor--that was the one we'd use when we were
in HI and our > ML> girls were > (both) in AZ. Hawaiian had an
overnight flight from > ML> Honolulu to Sky

Harbor--very convenient for us.

And it seems likewise that this particular
transgressor was not significantly dangerous.

Probably in a hurry and didn't pay attention to the signs on the

door or

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some other innocent mis step.

It wasn't in the news later, so one has no idea.

So probably not that big a problem.

I'm very much a purist when it comes to
blueberries. Cranberries, not so much,
the sky's the limit.

Other than craisins, I tend to ignore cranberries in all forms.

They are sort of eh, average in nutrition, but
if you want to acidify, they're very good. They
can't really be substituted for in some recipes,
cranberry-orange bread, cranberry sauce,and so on.

Still not one of my favorite berries, especially teamed with orange.

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