I grew up with dry red wine, having had my
first tastings while still in the single digits.
Not so severe as my first beer, which was while
still a toddler barely able to walk.

I tried Cold Duck (yeah well) at 13, but didn't get anything good
until I was in my 20s. I was about that age when I tasted beer the
first time too; it didn't impress me.

My first experiences with alcohol (one might
call it an alcoholic timeline, but that would
imply the wrong conclusion) were very, very
early. With sweet wines of the ordinary sort,
my earlier impressions were not favorable,
as with oddities like ginseng tea; quite the
contrary with beer, of course, and after only
a small period of habituation I got used to
dry wines. I can still sort of conjure up the
taste of seder wine at a couple bucks a bottle
and can readily say that the fifty times that
spent on more reputable stickies is well worth
the extra cost.

it was the Ha'Penny), which was fruit and
ice cream with red wine.

That sounds ... interesting.

Wine and sugar and fruit = sangria; add a bit
of cream, what could be bad? In fact, it was OK.

It doesn't sound like something I'd want seconds of, but you never
know.

People fuss about alcopops and how the industry
is targeting the youth or even underage marke;
well, this was the 20th-century version of the
same idea.

I forgot it while working on something else. Boiled it dry before...oops, what's that stink from the kitchen.

Never leave the kitchen when something is on
a high flame. I've learned that over the years.

That's why I generally make a tea mug in the nuker.

That's the one circumstance where a Keurig machine
is justifiable - when the user is addled enough to
otherwise risk burning down the kitchen.

What about the Matje herring? ...

For some reason that disgusts me. ...

I tried it once. Didn't go back for seconds.

Apparently the manufacture involves using the
fish's own digestive enzymes in the curing, which
strikes me weird, sort of like seething the kid
in its own milk.

Most of my friends were Reform, which meant that
they could eat pork stroganoff with impunity,
though not perhaps without a frisson of wickedness.

I just don't do it around folks who keep Kosher.

Oh, not saying I'd rub anyone's nose in it, though
I admit some of my Reform or nonpracticing friends
will, shall we say, not go out of their way to
protect the sensibilities of their more observant
brethren.

But in '15 I think it was (I cited the date in a
previous post) the main conclave of Conservative
rabbis decreed that anything not specifically
forbidden was allowed, and this past year even
some Orthodox authorities have arrived at the
same conclusion. So unless your friends are of
the black-clad bad-hair persuasion, they are in
the clear.

For rice and corn syrup at least. Not so much the pork stroganoff.

Kitniyot and trayf are completely different
ideas, based on completely different principles.

Whole Food Lentil & Quinoa Breakfast Patties
Categories: vegan, main, KfP now
Yield: 7 or 8 patties

2 1/2 c lentils, soaked and cooked (1 c raw)
1 c quinoa, soaked and cooked (1/2 c raw)
1/2 red onion, chopped
1/3 c carrot, chopped
2 Tb ground golden flax
1 1/2 ts fine ground sea salt
1 ts paprika
3 cloves garlic, minced
1 ts fennel seed, roughly chopped
1 1/2 ts sucanat
1 Tb fresh sage, chopped fine
1 Tb fresh marjoram, chopped fine
1/4 ts red pepper flakes (more tt)
1 ts fresh ground black pepper
3 ts virgin, cold-pressed coconut oil

Cook lentils and quinoa and set aside.

Place 2 ts coconut oil in pan and heat to
medium-high. Add onion and carrots and brown
for 10 to 15 min.

Prepare spices and herbs. Set aside when chopped.
Mix salt, paprika, garlic, fennel, sucanat, sage,
marjoram, red pepper and black pepper,

Combine browned carrots and onion, flax, and
spices in the food processor. Add cooked quinoa
and cooked lentils. Pulse just enough to break up
the lentils, quinoa and veggies so they start to
stick together, 20 times max. Don't overprocess.
Form into patties and place in a pan over medium
heat and brown on each side.

You can also just brown the mixture as crumbles
and use to replace sausage in many recipes.

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I tried Cold Duck (yeah well) at 13, but didn't get anything good
until I was in my 20s. I was about that age when I tasted beer

the

first time too; it didn't impress me.

My first experiences with alcohol (one might
call it an alcoholic timeline, but that would
imply the wrong conclusion) were very, very
early. With sweet wines of the ordinary sort,
my earlier impressions were not favorable,
as with oddities like ginseng tea; quite the
contrary with beer, of course, and after only
a small period of habituation I got used to
dry wines. I can still sort of conjure up the
taste of seder wine at a couple bucks a bottle
and can readily say that the fifty times that
spent on more reputable stickies is well worth
the extra cost.

I wouldn't doubt it. I was at a party tonight for Purim, but no
wines were served. Hamentashen in plenty, and lots of noisemakers,
but no wine.

Wine and sugar and fruit = sangria; add a bit
of cream, what could be bad? In fact, it was OK.

It doesn't sound like something I'd want seconds of, but you

never

know.

People fuss about alcopops and how the industry
is targeting the youth or even underage marke;
well, this was the 20th-century version of the
same idea.

Boone's Farm for folks with taste buds.

a high flame. I've learned that over the years.

That's why I generally make a tea mug in the nuker.

That's the one circumstance where a Keurig machine
is justifiable - when the user is addled enough to
otherwise risk burning down the kitchen.

Or the other available equipment lends itself to disasters.

What about the Matje herring? ...

For some reason that disgusts me. ...

I tried it once. Didn't go back for seconds.

Apparently the manufacture involves using the
fish's own digestive enzymes in the curing, which
strikes me weird, sort of like seething the kid
in its own milk.

It's Kosher. Weird, but Kosher.

Oh, not saying I'd rub anyone's nose in it, though
I admit some of my Reform or nonpracticing friends
will, shall we say, not go out of their way to
protect the sensibilities of their more observant
brethren.

I've seen that before. Most of my Christian friends tend to go the
other direction.

same conclusion. So unless your friends are of
the black-clad bad-hair persuasion, they are in
the clear.

For rice and corn syrup at least. Not so much the pork

stroganoff.

Kitniyot and trayf are completely different
ideas, based on completely different principles.

Precisely.

Whole Food Lentil & Quinoa Breakfast Patties

Are these edible? If so it would be a first for quinoa.
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Quoting Ruth Hanschka to Michael Loo on 03-20-19 23:20 <=-

Whole Food Lentil & Quinoa Breakfast Patties

Are these edible? If so it would be a first for quinoa.

I bought some brown rice/quinoa packages at BJ's, made by Seeds of
Change.... they're microwavable, so a quick side dish... Not bad,
actually... of course it also has ingredients such as garlic... :) Shelf-stable, so lasts well, too.... one doesn't have to have it all
that often.... (G)

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Whole Food Lentil & Quinoa Breakfast Patties

Are these edible? If so it would be a first for quinoa.

I bought some brown rice/quinoa packages at BJ's, made by Seeds of
Change.... they're microwavable, so a quick side dish... Not bad,
actually... of course it also has ingredients such as garlic... :) Shelf-stable, so lasts well, too.... one doesn't have to have it all
that often.... (G)

Emergency chow would be appropriate. A friend did have to eat it during Passover when he went Vegetarian for a while. It wasn't the worst. I
think quinoa helped turn him back into an omnivore.
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Quoting Ruth Hanschka to Nancy Backus on 03-27-19 23:47 <=-

Whole Food Lentil & Quinoa Breakfast Patties

Are these edible? If so it would be a first for quinoa.

I bought some brown rice/quinoa packages at BJ's, made by Seeds of Change.... they're microwavable, so a quick side dish... Not bad, actually... of course it also has ingredients such as garlic... :) Shelf-stable, so lasts well, too.... one doesn't have to have it all
that often.... (G)

Emergency chow would be appropriate.

I've actually fixed it more often than that, though I still have half
the box of six packages left... Served under something, instead of
plain rice, it's pretty good, and the garlic is a real ingredient, and
plenty of it, so that makes it taste edible, too...

A friend did have to eat it
during Passover when he went Vegetarian for a while. It wasn't the
worst. I think quinoa helped turn him back into an omnivore.

I don't think I'd want to eat it as the main protein... ;) As part of
an omnivore diet, it fits in ok... :)

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Change.... they're microwavable, so a quick side dish... Not

bad,

actually... of course it also has ingredients such as garlic...

:)

Shelf-stable, so lasts well, too.... one doesn't have to have it

all

that often.... (G)

Emergency chow would be appropriate.

I've actually fixed it more often than that, though I still have

half

the box of six packages left... Served under something, instead of
plain rice, it's pretty good, and the garlic is a real ingredient,

and

plenty of it, so that makes it taste edible, too...

The garlic would help. Plain quinoa. No. Just no.

A friend did have to eat it
during Passover when he went Vegetarian for a while. It wasn't

the

worst. I think quinoa helped turn him back into an omnivore.

I don't think I'd want to eat it as the main protein... ;) As part

of

an omnivore diet, it fits in ok... :)

As an emergency fill-in it works. Full time? No thanks.
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Quoting Ruth Hanschka to Nancy Backus on 04-04-19 23:46 <=-

Change.... they're microwavable, so a quick side dish... Not
bad, actually... of course it also has ingredients such as
garlic... :) Shelf-stable, so lasts well, too.... one doesn't
have to have it all that often.... (G)

Emergency chow would be appropriate.

I've actually fixed it more often than that, though I still have
half the box of six packages left... Served under something,
instead of plain rice, it's pretty good, and the garlic is a real ingredient, and plenty of it, so that makes it taste edible, too...

The garlic would help. Plain quinoa. No. Just no.

I don't think I've had plain quinoa... but as an additive to brown rice,
or that sort of thing, it's not bad... and, as I said, this does have
plenty of garlic in it... :)

A friend did have to eat it during Passover
when he went Vegetarian for a while. It wasn't the worst.
I think quinoa helped turn him back into an omnivore.

I don't think I'd want to eat it as the main protein... ;) As part
of an omnivore diet, it fits in ok... :)

As an emergency fill-in it works. Full time? No thanks.

Full-time, it wouldn't be an omnivore diet, either... ;) And there are
lots of other grains to rotate it with... (G)

ttyl neb

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have to have it all that often.... (G)

Emergency chow would be appropriate.

I've actually fixed it more often than that, though I still have
half the box of six packages left... Served under something,
instead of plain rice, it's pretty good, and the garlic is a

real

ingredient, and plenty of it, so that makes it taste edible,

too...

The garlic would help. Plain quinoa. No. Just no.

I don't think I've had plain quinoa... but as an additive to brown

rice,

or that sort of thing, it's not bad... and, as I said, this does

have

plenty of garlic in it... :)

Plain quinoa ... is not recommended.

As an emergency fill-in it works. Full time? No thanks.

Full-time, it wouldn't be an omnivore diet, either... ;) And there

are

lots of other grains to rotate it with... (G)

Buckwheat for one, if you're gluten free. It's technically a seed,
but buckwheat knishes are pretty darned yummy. They are of course
loaded with ... garlic.
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Quoting Ruth Hanschka to Nancy Backus on 04-12-19 23:33 <=-

have to have it all that often.... (G)

Emergency chow would be appropriate.

I've actually fixed it more often than that, though I still have
half the box of six packages left... Served under something,
instead of plain rice, it's pretty good, and the garlic is a
real ingredient, and plenty of it, so that makes it taste edible,
too...

The garlic would help. Plain quinoa. No. Just no.

I don't think I've had plain quinoa... but as an additive to brown
rice, or that sort of thing, it's not bad... and, as I said, this
does have plenty of garlic in it... :)

Plain quinoa ... is not recommended.

I'll take your word for it... :)

As an emergency fill-in it works. Full time? No thanks.

Full-time, it wouldn't be an omnivore diet, either... ;) And there
are lots of other grains to rotate it with... (G)

Buckwheat for one, if you're gluten free. It's technically a seed,
but buckwheat knishes are pretty darned yummy. They are of course
loaded with ... garlic.

Well, that makes most things better... and even good... ;)

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The garlic would help. Plain quinoa. No. Just no.

I don't think I've had plain quinoa... but as an additive to

brown

rice, or that sort of thing, it's not bad... and, as I said,

this

does have plenty of garlic in it... :)

Plain quinoa ... is not recommended.

I'll take your word for it... :)

Just as well; I'm not going back to check my previous impression.

Buckwheat for one, if you're gluten free. It's technically a

seed,

but buckwheat knishes are pretty darned yummy. They are of

course

loaded with ... garlic.

Well, that makes most things better... and even good... ;)

I'm not sure I'd want it in ice cream, but... more or less.
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Quoting Ruth Hanschka to Nancy Backus on 04-19-19 23:34 <=-

The garlic would help. Plain quinoa. No. Just no.

I don't think I've had plain quinoa... but as an additive to
brown rice, or that sort of thing, it's not bad... and, as I
said, this does have plenty of garlic in it... :)

Plain quinoa ... is not recommended.

I'll take your word for it... :)

Just as well; I'm not going back to check my previous impression.

Certainly not asking you to do that.... ;) And anyone that says that
it's recommendable, their opinion is suspect automatically.. ;)

Buckwheat for one, if you're gluten free. It's technically a
seed, but buckwheat knishes are pretty darned yummy. They
are of course loaded with ... garlic.

Well, that makes most things better... and even good... ;)

I'm not sure I'd want it in ice cream, but... more or less.

I think I've actually heard of garlic ice cream... probably served at
some town's garlic festival, admittedly... (G)

It could be....interesting.... ;)

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said, this does have plenty of garlic in it... :)

Plain quinoa ... is not recommended.

I'll take your word for it... :)

Just as well; I'm not going back to check my previous

impression.

Certainly not asking you to do that.... ;) And anyone that says

that

it's recommendable, their opinion is suspect automatically.. ;)

Especially if they like quinoa.

Buckwheat for one, if you're gluten free. It's technically

a

seed, but buckwheat knishes are pretty darned yummy. They
are of course loaded with ... garlic.

Well, that makes most things better... and even good... ;)

I'm not sure I'd want it in ice cream, but... more or less.

I think I've actually heard of garlic ice cream... probably served

at

some town's garlic festival, admittedly... (G)

It could be....interesting.... ;)

Serve it side by side with Durian ice cream?
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Quoting Ruth Hanschka to Nancy Backus on 04-26-19 23:35 <=-

said, this does have plenty of garlic in it... :)

Plain quinoa ... is not recommended.

I'll take your word for it... :)

Just as well; I'm not going back to check my previous
impression.

Certainly not asking you to do that.... ;) And anyone that says
that it's recommendable, their opinion is suspect automatically.. ;)

Especially if they like quinoa.

Hmmm... I suppose there probably are some that do, hunh...

Buckwheat for one, if you're gluten free. It's technically
a seed, but buckwheat knishes are pretty darned yummy. They
are of course loaded with ... garlic.

Well, that makes most things better... and even good... ;)

I'm not sure I'd want it in ice cream, but... more or less.

I think I've actually heard of garlic ice cream... probably served
at some town's garlic festival, admittedly... (G)
It could be....interesting.... ;)

Serve it side by side with Durian ice cream?

Maybe not... unless the durian ice cream was made with real durian pulp,
not just durian flavoring... anything I've had that was merely flavored
was pretty nasty.... but the real thing was actually not bad at all...
once one got past the smell... ;)

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Certainly not asking you to do that.... ;) And anyone that says
that it's recommendable, their opinion is suspect

automatically.. ;)

Especially if they like quinoa.

Hmmm... I suppose there probably are some that do, hunh...

People are weird, so ...probably.

Serve it side by side with Durian ice cream?

Maybe not... unless the durian ice cream was made with real durian

pulp,

not just durian flavoring... anything I've had that was merely

flavored

was pretty nasty.... but the real thing was actually not bad at

all...

once one got past the smell... ;)

The smell tends to get a lot of people. I still remember Clean
Dave's late great Leo the Wonderdog and the durian fruit. Dog never
quite trusted Dave again after that.(LOL)

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Quoting Ruth Hanschka to Nancy Backus on 05-06-19 23:38 <=-

Certainly not asking you to do that.... ;) And anyone that
says that it's recommendable, their opinion is suspect
automatically.. ;)

Especially if they like quinoa.

Hmmm... I suppose there probably are some that do, hunh...

People are weird, so ...probably.

True. :)

Serve it side by side with Durian ice cream?

Maybe not... unless the durian ice cream was made with real durian
pulp, not just durian flavoring... anything I've had that was merely flavored was pretty nasty.... but the real thing was actually not
bad at all... once one got past the smell... ;)

The smell tends to get a lot of people. I still remember Clean
Dave's late great Leo the Wonderdog and the durian fruit. Dog never quite trusted Dave again after that.(LOL)

I've heard the tale... :)

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Especially if they like quinoa.

Hmmm... I suppose there probably are some that do, hunh...

People are weird, so ...probably.

True. :)

Normal's in Indiana if memory serves.

pulp, not just durian flavoring... anything I've had that was

merely

flavored was pretty nasty.... but the real thing was actually

not

bad at all... once one got past the smell... ;)

The smell tends to get a lot of people. I still remember

Clean

Dave's late great Leo the Wonderdog and the durian fruit. Dog

never

quite trusted Dave again after that.(LOL)

I've heard the tale... :)

It's the only use anyone's ever found for artificial durian
flavoring. Dog got to sniff that too. Leo was not impressed.
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Quoting Ruth Hanschka to Nancy Backus on 05-10-19 23:36 <=-

Especially if they like quinoa.

Hmmm... I suppose there probably are some that do, hunh...

People are weird, so ...probably.

True. :)

Normal's in Indiana if memory serves.

Could be... :)

pulp, not just durian flavoring... anything I've had that was
merely flavored was pretty nasty.... but the real thing was
actually not bad at all... once one got past the smell... ;)

The smell tends to get a lot of people. I still remember
Clean Dave's late great Leo the Wonderdog and the durian fruit.
Dog never quite trusted Dave again after that.(LOL)

I've heard the tale... :)

It's the only use anyone's ever found for artificial durian
flavoring. Dog got to sniff that too. Leo was not impressed.

Nope, artificial durian flavor has nothing at all to recommend it...

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Especially if they like quinoa.

Hmmm... I suppose there probably are some that do, hunh...

People are weird, so ...probably.

True. :)

Normal's in Indiana if memory serves.

Could be... :)

It's not a dryer setting on any dryer I ever had.

Clean Dave's late great Leo the Wonderdog and the durian fruit.

Dog never quite trusted Dave again after that.(LOL)

I've heard the tale... :)

It's the only use anyone's ever found for artificial durian
flavoring. Dog got to sniff that too. Leo was not impressed.

Nope, artificial durian flavor has nothing at all to recommend

it...


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Quoting Ruth Hanschka to Nancy Backus on 05-18-19 23:55 <=-

Especially if they like quinoa.

Hmmm... I suppose there probably are some that do, hunh...

People are weird, so ...probably.

True. :)

Normal's in Indiana if memory serves.

Could be... :)

It's not a dryer setting on any dryer I ever had.

It was a setting on one of the washers we had once.... ;)

Clean Dave's late great Leo the Wonderdog and the durian fruit.
Dog never quite trusted Dave again after that.(LOL)

I've heard the tale... :)

It's the only use anyone's ever found for artificial durian
flavoring. Dog got to sniff that too. Leo was not impressed.

Nope, artificial durian flavor has nothing at all to recommend
it...

Unless you're trying to chase off a skunk!

Dunno, the skunk might think it was a long-lost relative.... ;)

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Normal's in Indiana if memory serves.

Could be... :)

It's not a dryer setting on any dryer I ever had.

It was a setting on one of the washers we had once.... ;)

I've never had one of those.

It's the only use anyone's ever found for artificial durian flavoring. Dog got to sniff that too. Leo was not

impressed.

Nope, artificial durian flavor has nothing at all to recommend
it...

Unless you're trying to chase off a skunk!

Dunno, the skunk might think it was a long-lost relative.... ;)

Even skunks aren't fond of stinkies, unless they made the stinky.
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Quoting Ruth Hanschka to Nancy Backus on 05-24-19 00:02 <=-

Normal's in Indiana if memory serves.

Could be... :)

It's not a dryer setting on any dryer I ever had.

It was a setting on one of the washers we had once.... ;)

I've never had one of those.

Which, a washer, or one that had a Normal setting on it....?

It's the only use anyone's ever found for artificial durian flavoring. Dog got to sniff that too. Leo was not
impressed.

Nope, artificial durian flavor has nothing at all to recommend
it...

Unless you're trying to chase off a skunk!

Dunno, the skunk might think it was a long-lost relative.... ;)

Even skunks aren't fond of stinkies, unless they made the stinky.

Not even from a fellow skunk....? ;)

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It's not a dryer setting on any dryer I ever had.

It was a setting on one of the washers we had once.... ;)

I've never had one of those.

Which, a washer, or one that had a Normal setting on it....?

That Normal thing, anywhere.

Nope, artificial durian flavor has nothing at all to

recommend

it...

Unless you're trying to chase off a skunk!

Dunno, the skunk might think it was a long-lost relative.... ;)

Even skunks aren't fond of stinkies, unless they made the

stinky.

Not even from a fellow skunk....? ;)

Possibly, but not to my knowledge. Generally skunk stink means get
outta here. Trouble.


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