• 54 raw fish

    From MICHAEL LOO@1:123/140 to DALE SHIPP on Thursday, March 07, 2019 11:16:56
    In the 1980s in Panama that might have been
    wise, and there are recent claims that parasitic
    infection can come from eating raw fish to this
    day. I'm perfectly happy taking the parasite
    risk (though many sushi chefs use fish frozen
    enough to kill off all the worms).
    On a recent Chopped cooking show, the judges got horrified that one of
    the contestant chefs served raw *freshwater* fish. They refused to eat
    it, and chopped him out of the competition. That was the first time I
    had heard of a distinction between freshwater fish and saltwater fish
    with respect to parasites.

    The main reason not to eat raw freshwater fish
    is that it doesn't taste interesting. Its
    parasites are no more fearsome than those of
    saltwater dwellers. Until recently it was
    almost universally held that uncooked freshwater
    fish were verboten, but it turns out that recent
    life-threatening parasitic infections have been
    from saltwater fish, and the judges were just
    perpetuating an alarmist half-truth. My most
    recent experience with anisakid worms was in
    salmon at I think it was Legal Seafoods. I
    believe the worms were fairly dead, but I ate
    the fish without verifying that - just pulled
    out the ones I noticed and left them at the edge
    of my plate.

    Either way, neither Gail nor I are fond of eating raw fish.

    That's seldom going to be a problem, and
    you're in the majority anyway. Even at Fu's
    you could have a perfectly satisfactory meal
    without having to violate that preference.

    Title: Panang Meatballs
    1 lb Ground Beef
    3 tb Flour,All-Purpose
    2 tb Vegetable Oil
    2 tb Curry Powder, Red
    2 tb Peanut Butter
    1 tb Sugar
    1 tb Nam Pla (Fish Sauce)
    1 1/2 c Coconut Milk

    Shape ground beef into 24 1-inch balls; coat lightly with flour. In
    skillet cook meatballs in hot oil 10 to 15 minutes or till brown,

    These would probably be better deep fried.

    Recipe By : Avon International Cookbook
    From: Pcharles@iastate.Edu Date: 03-14-95

    What's the Avon International Cookbook? The recipe
    looks as if the flavors of the sauce would be Thai
    enough in a mild way; the meatball technique is
    one that my mother used to use (her meatballs of
    course had scallion and soy and maybe an egg, and
    then she rolled them in starch and fried them as
    in the recipe).

    Orange marmalade
    categories: celebrity, historical, British, preserve, dubious
    yield: 1 batch

    2 seville oranges
    2 sweet oranges
    2 lemons
    8 lb preserving sugar
    8 pt water

    Wash and dry the fruit. Halve them and squeeze
    out the juice. Remove some of the pith, then
    shred the fruit finely. Tie the pips in a
    muslin bag. Put the strained juice, rind and
    pips into the water and soak for 48 hr. Place
    in a large pan and simmer until the rind is
    tender, 1 to 2 hr. Leave to stand overnight,
    then add the sugar and let it dissolve before
    bringing to the boil. Boil rapidly until a
    little of the mixture will set into a jelly
    when placed on a cold plate. Pour into jars
    which have been heated beforehand, and cover
    with paper covers.

    George Orwell, adapted
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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Michael Loo on Friday, March 08, 2019 04:58:02
    On 03-07-19 10:16, Michael Loo <=-
    spoke to Dale Shipp about 54 raw fish <=-

    Either way, neither Gail nor I are fond of eating raw fish.

    That's seldom going to be a problem, and
    you're in the majority anyway. Even at Fu's
    you could have a perfectly satisfactory meal
    without having to violate that preference.

    The first time we went to Fu's we did try the sushi, but the next time
    got something else off of the menu. I don't recall what that was.



    Title: Panang Meatballs
    1 lb Ground Beef
    3 tb Flour,All-Purpose
    2 tb Vegetable Oil
    2 tb Curry Powder, Red
    2 tb Peanut Butter
    1 tb Sugar
    1 tb Nam Pla (Fish Sauce)
    1 1/2 c Coconut Milk

    Shape ground beef into 24 1-inch balls; coat lightly with flour. In
    skillet cook meatballs in hot oil 10 to 15 minutes or till brown,

    These would probably be better deep fried.

    Recipe By : Avon International Cookbook
    From: Pcharles@iastate.Edu Date: 03-14-95

    What's the Avon International Cookbook? The recipe

    I'd never heard of it, but your mention made me look. There seem to be multiple issues/versions -- many of which are on Amazon.

    looks as if the flavors of the sauce would be Thai
    enough in a mild way; the meatball technique is

    Coconut milk, fish sauce, peanut butter are often associated with Thai
    -- whether authentic or not. Sort of like add a slice of pineapple and
    call it Hawian.

    As to making it not mild, that would depend on how hot that red curry
    powder was. You would like to also add a dozen or so Thai birds eye
    peppers.

    one that my mother used to use (her meatballs of
    course had scallion and soy and maybe an egg, and
    then she rolled them in starch and fried them as
    in the recipe).

    Scallion and soy == Chinese?

    Orange marmalade

    When we filled up the care with Costco gas the other day, we went to the
    nearby Trapper Joe's and they had the Trapper's Seville Orange Maralade.
    Price was not too bad, so we got a jar. Have not opened it yet, but did
    just finish off the last of my Safeway Select SOM (now discontinued).

    categories: celebrity, historical, British, preserve, dubious
    yield: 1 batch

    Sweet oranges, lemons => Dubius.

    2 seville oranges
    2 sweet oranges
    2 lemons
    8 lb preserving sugar
    8 pt water

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    Title: CHICKEN SATE' WITH PEANUT SAUCE
    Categories: Appetizer, Main dish, Thai
    Yield: 9 servings

    MMMMM--------------------------MARINADE-------------------------------
    1 tb Light brown sugar
    1 tb Curry powder
    2 tb Crunchy peanut butter
    1/2 c Soy sauce
    1/2 c Freshly squeezed lime juice
    2 Garlic cloves, minced
    Crushed dried chile peppers

    MMMMM--------------------------CHICKEN-------------------------------
    6 Chicken breast halves,
    ˙boned, skinned, and cut
    ˙into 1/2" wide strips

    MMMMM------------------------PEANUT SAUCE-----------------------------
    2/3 c Crunchy peanut butter
    1 1/2 c Coconut milk, unsweetened
    1/4 c Freshly squeezed lemon juice
    2 tb Soy sauce
    2 tb Molasses (or brown sugar)
    1 ts Fresh ginger root, grated
    4 Garlic cloves, minced
    1/4 c Chicken broth
    1/4 c Heavy cream
    Cayenne pepper
    Grated lime zest
    Fresh cilantro sprigs

    To make the marinade, combine the first 7 ingredients in a shallow
    dish. Thread the chicken strips onto bamboo skewers in a serpentine
    fashion. Place the skewers into the soy sauce mixture and let marinate
    in the refrigerator at least 2 hours, although overnight is
    preferable.

    Make the peanut sauce by combining the next 7 ingredients (peanut
    butter through garlic) in a saucepan. Season to taste with cayenne
    pepper. Cook over moderate heat, stirring constantly, until the sauce
    is as thick as heavy cream (about 15 minutes). Transfer to a food
    processor or blender and pur‚e briefly. Add chicken broth and cream
    and blend until smooth. This mixture can be made several hours ahead
    and stored in the refrigerator. Bring to room temperature before
    serving.

    Prepare moderate-hot charcoal coals or preheat a broiler. Cook the
    skewered chicken, turning several times and basting with the marinade,
    until crispy on the outside but still moist on the inside, about 8
    minutes. Sprinkle grilled chicken with lime zest and garnish with
    cilantro leaves. Serve with the peanut sauce for dipping.

    Downloaded from the WWW site of Dave & Georgette Burnside
    www.synapse.net/~gemini/mealmast.htm

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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to DALE SHIPP on Sunday, March 10, 2019 23:12:00
    Quoting Dale Shipp to Michael Loo on 03-08-19 03:58 <=-

    Either way, neither Gail nor I are fond of eating raw fish.
    That's seldom going to be a problem, and
    you're in the majority anyway. Even at Fu's
    you could have a perfectly satisfactory meal
    without having to violate that preference.

    The first time we went to Fu's we did try the sushi, but the next time
    got something else off of the menu. I don't recall what that was.

    I think you got the shrimp and scallop teriyaki, and Gail got one of the
    meal entree soups... and you both made the comment that you might have
    got one or the other and shared.... ;) You managed to eat the whole
    thing, and Gail brought half back to the house... :) Richard and I have
    shared the shrimp and scallop teriyaki before, and the time we didn't
    share, I brought part of it home... Very good stuff, but the stomach
    only holds so much... (G)

    When we filled up the car with Costco gas the other day, we went to
    the nearby Trapper Joe's and they had the Trapper's Seville Orange Maralade. Price was not too bad, so we got a jar. Have not opened it
    yet, but did just finish off the last of my Safeway Select SOM (now discontinued).

    Is Trapper Joe's anything like Trader Joe's....?

    ttyl neb

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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Nancy Backus on Tuesday, March 12, 2019 01:31:04
    On 03-10-19 22:12, Nancy Backus <=-
    spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: 54 raw fish <=-



    When we filled up the car with Costco gas the other day, we went to
    the nearby Trapper Joe's and they had the Trapper's Seville Orange Maralade. Price was not too bad, so we got a jar. Have not opened it
    yet, but did just finish off the last of my Safeway Select SOM (now discontinued).

    Is Trapper Joe's anything like Trader Joe's....?

    My bad -- it was Trapper' SOM at Trader Joe's. Still have not opened it
    yet though.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

    Title: Italian Rice and Chard Soup
    Categories: Appetizers , Light meals, Soup & stew
    Yield: 7 servings

    2 bn Fresh green or red chard
    1/4 c Olive oil
    1/4 c Minced onion
    3 c (approximately) chicken
    -stock
    1/2 c Arborio rice
    1/3 c Fresh basil leaves -- for
    -garnish
    -grated Parmesan cheese --
    -for garnish

    1. Wash chard well. Remove stems and cut them into 1/4-inch pieces.
    Bring a large pot of salted water to a boil and blanch the chard
    leaves for 10 to 15 seconds. Transfer them with a large slotted spoon
    to ice water, then drain, squeeze dry, and chop coarsely. Blanch the
    stems in the same boiling water, refresh them in ice water, then
    drain and dry.

    2. Heat oil in a large pot over moderate heat. Add onion and saute
    until translucent and soft (3 to 5 minutes). Add chard stems and stir
    to coat with oil. Add chicken stock and rice and bring to a simmer.
    Cover and simmer gently 15 minutes or until rice is just cooked. Add
    chopped chard and heat through gently. If rice has absorbed most of
    stock, add a little more, but soup should be thick.

    3. To serve, cut the basil into fine julienne. Divide soup among warm
    bowls and garnish with julienned basil and Parmesan.

    NOTES : This light vegetable soup is a good start to a menu of grilled
    chicken or sausages. Short-grained Arborio rice is imported from Italy
    and can be found in most specialty markets.

    Recipe By :

    From: George Elting Date: 04-01-00
    Cooking

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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to DALE SHIPP on Monday, March 18, 2019 21:37:00
    Quoting Dale Shipp to Nancy Backus on 03-12-19 00:31 <=-

    When we filled up the car with Costco gas the other day, we went to
    the nearby Trapper Joe's and they had the Trapper's Seville Orange
    Marmalade. Price was not too bad, so we got a jar. Have not opened it
    yet, but did just finish off the last of my Safeway Select SOM (now
    discontinued).
    Is Trapper Joe's anything like Trader Joe's....?

    My bad -- it was Trapper' SOM at Trader Joe's. Still have not opened
    it yet though.

    Ok... I'm still confused though... what I got at Trader Joe's was Trader
    Joe's SOM... don't remember seeing anything Trappers' there....

    ttyl neb

    ... Try this. I haven't tested it, but I think it will work.

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