• 19 happy hols + exte

    From MICHAEL LOO@1:123/140 to NANCY BACKUS on Wednesday, February 27, 2019 11:54:48
    In my protective moods I have to remember that it's
    not my job to look out for others; on the other
    hand there are those of us with more perspicacity,
    and we should at least sometimes take the effort
    to counteract the corporate falsehood machine.
    And that can be (at least mostly) in our own interests, not particularly for others....
    I'm presuming that for people "in the know" it's
    second nature; it's the education of the rest of
    the public that takes the effort.
    Probably true on both counts.... I'll try, but it can be more of a task
    than I'm up to following up on, especially with some people...

    Unless you're directing all your energies
    toward social activism, I'm not suggesting
    that you go running out into the streets to
    do so but more like educating in passing and
    where the opportunity is readily found.

    The concept is not all that appealing - how many
    times have I visited upstate New York, and have I
    ever had a garbage plate?
    Apparently never.... want to rectify that...? (G) Richard's had a
    couple of variations on it, though... and survived... ;)
    Correct. Incorrect. I usually don't choose
    food solely for its survivability!
    Indeed... that was a bit of a joke, that survival bit.... :) He may
    even have enjoyed it on occasion... :)

    I was hoping that the first part was also a
    bit of a joke. Meanwhile, I'm figuring that
    Richard was until recently one of those who
    can pound down those exess calories without
    ill effect (as I once was as well).

    Woody but not Allen. Both are well regarded in the
    film world. I've never seen either that I know of.
    Dunno as I have, either...
    Harrelson, as it turns out, and I've still
    never seen him. Stereotypes don't work, said
    Tom monotonously.
    I may have seen one or the other or both... probably not in the movie
    you reference, though... ;)

    I went to the Internet and confirmed that I have
    not seen either of them on big or small screen or
    the stage, except possibly in passing on Cheers on
    the airplane.

    You should see some of these recipes.
    I suspect I may not want to... (G)
    Too bad - Fred Ball appears to have found
    some, er, interesting ones.
    So I noticed.... ;)

    Some of them are fun to read, and all are
    as interesting as real recipes would be.

    Like some of the developing African countries....
    Indeed, and I believe it's being experimented
    with there.
    Could well be...

    Not just experimented with, it turns out. Fonio,
    a close relative of crabgrass, has been a staple
    crop in parts of Africa for centuries, and most
    of the articles I've read indicate that crabgrass
    itself was brought to the Americas as a food crop
    by European immigrants.

    ... No-fat cream cheese is not food; it has no cream, it has no cheese.
    A T-bone steak has no cream and no cheese.
    It doesn't claim to be cream or cheese.... <G> It has what it claims to be.... And Richard, standing at my shoulder, says that one can put
    cream or cheese (and I add, or cream cheese) on the steak... ;)

    Just because something isn't what it pretends
    to be doesn't make it not food. Chocolate truffles
    aren't truffles and sadly sometimes have scant
    chocolate, but they're not not food (the Oregon
    ones I described try hard to achieve that state
    but fail).

    ... Paraffins: Found on the sides of fish

    Which leads me to ask what sort of wax job puts
    paraffin in chocolate?

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    Title: Andrea Cassoni's Buckeyes
    Categories: Cyberealm, Cookies, Christmas
    Yield: 6 dozen

    1 lb Smooth peanut butter
    1/2 c Butter
    3 1/2 c Confectioners' sugar
    3 c Rice krispies

    Mix the ingredients together. Make small balls, and coat with 1
    package of chocolate chips and 1/4 bar of paraffin wax melted
    together in a double boiler. Dip each in the mixture, and put on wax
    paper to cool.

    Originally posted 12/4/92
    Typed for you in MM format by Linda Fields, Cyberealm BBS and home of
    Kook-Net, Watertown NY 315-786-1120

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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to MICHAEL LOO on Monday, March 04, 2019 19:09:00
    Quoting Michael Loo to Nancy Backus on 02-27-19 10:54 <=-

    And that can be (at least mostly) in our own interests, not
    particularly for others....
    I'm presuming that for people "in the know" it's
    second nature; it's the education of the rest of
    the public that takes the effort.
    Probably true on both counts.... I'll try, but it can be more of a task
    than I'm up to following up on, especially with some people...
    Unless you're directing all your energies
    toward social activism, I'm not suggesting
    that you go running out into the streets to
    do so but more like educating in passing and
    where the opportunity is readily found.

    Nor would I... I was thinking more of the educating in passing sometimes
    being more than one would have hoped it to be... :)

    The concept is not all that appealing - how many
    times have I visited upstate New York, and have I
    ever had a garbage plate?
    Apparently never.... want to rectify that...? (G) Richard's had a couple of variations on it, though... and survived... ;)
    Correct. Incorrect. I usually don't choose
    food solely for its survivability!
    Indeed... that was a bit of a joke, that survival bit.... :) He may
    even have enjoyed it on occasion... :)
    I was hoping that the first part was also a
    bit of a joke. Meanwhile, I'm figuring that
    Richard was until recently one of those who
    can pound down those excess calories without
    ill effect (as I once was as well).

    Well, actually, yes.... and quite true.... he has finally moderated
    some in that ability.... ;)

    Woody but not Allen. Both are well regarded in the
    film world. I've never seen either that I know of.
    Dunno as I have, either...
    Harrelson, as it turns out, and I've still
    never seen him. Stereotypes don't work, said
    Tom monotonously.
    I may have seen one or the other or both... probably not in the movie
    you reference, though... ;)
    I went to the Internet and confirmed that I have
    not seen either of them on big or small screen or
    the stage, except possibly in passing on Cheers on
    the airplane.

    Ah... Cheers (infrequent as my viewing has been, and likewise in
    passing) does ring a bell there...

    You should see some of these recipes.
    I suspect I may not want to... (G)
    Too bad - Fred Ball appears to have found
    some, er, interesting ones.
    So I noticed.... ;)
    Some of them are fun to read, and all are
    as interesting as real recipes would be.

    Just not as tasty, should one actually try them out... ;)

    Like some of the developing African countries....
    Indeed, and I believe it's being experimented
    with there.
    Could well be...
    Not just experimented with, it turns out. Fonio,
    a close relative of crabgrass, has been a staple
    crop in parts of Africa for centuries, and most
    of the articles I've read indicate that crabgrass
    itself was brought to the Americas as a food crop
    by European immigrants.

    Interesting. :)

    ... No-fat cream cheese is not food; it has no cream, it has no cheese.
    A T-bone steak has no cream and no cheese.
    It doesn't claim to be cream or cheese.... <G> It has what it claims to be.... And Richard, standing at my shoulder, says that one can put
    cream or cheese (and I add, or cream cheese) on the steak... ;)
    Just because something isn't what it pretends
    to be doesn't make it not food. Chocolate truffles
    aren't truffles and sadly sometimes have scant
    chocolate, but they're not not food (the Oregon
    ones I described try hard to achieve that state
    but fail).

    OK, so there are pretenders that turn out to have some value as food...
    not sure if there is any nutritive value left in no-fat cream cheese, though.... :)

    ... Paraffins: Found on the sides of fish
    Which leads me to ask what sort of wax job puts
    paraffin in chocolate?
    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.01
    Title: Andrea Cassoni's Buckeyes
    Categories: Cyberealm, Cookies, Christmas
    Yield: 6 dozen
    1 lb Smooth peanut butter
    1/2 c Butter
    3 1/2 c Confectioners' sugar
    3 c Rice krispies
    Mix the ingredients together. Make small balls, and coat with 1
    package of chocolate chips and 1/4 bar of paraffin wax melted
    together in a double boiler. Dip each in the mixture, and put on wax
    paper to cool.
    Originally posted 12/4/92
    Typed for you in MM format by Linda Fields, Cyberealm BBS and home
    of Kook-Net, Watertown NY 315-786-1120
    MMMMM

    I guess I've heard of doing such a thing, but seems a poor substitute
    for the confectioner's glaze or the pure food glaze or even the food
    quality wax (I forget the right name, but starts with an 'a') that is
    used on outside of candies...

    ttyl neb

    ... I can make fire by rubbing together 2 sticks if 1 of them is a match.

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