post - I was somewhat saddened to see that she
found the brand so wanting. I was, it is true,
not so thrilled with newer specimens of the chips,
especially the flavored ones. As I've noted, the
cooked-in-lard version is still, well, cooked in
lard; and the sour-cream-onion and barbecue
flavors are no less good than the big brands,
which Utz seems to aspire to become one of.

Sometimes bigger isn't better... :)

That goes without saying, but also does
the human urge to go for the big splash.
Anyhow, at the spread for which I made
quiche, someone brought a bag of Utz's
sour cream and onion chips, which turned
out to be fine, just as fine as before.
I was somewhat gratified.

I believe so - dairying used to be a
generally real family business for a
long time, and Breyer is a not-unheard-of
name among the Penn Dutch.

And Jim looked it up, I believe, and found that it was indeed founded by
a Breyer...... then sold to Kraft, which was taken over by Unilever...

With brands of that antiquity, one would
expect founding fathers or mothers. More
recent trademarks - Mrs. Butterworth and
Betty Crocker, for example, are more likely
to be fictional. With the current cultural
mi-mi-mi tendencies, we can expect more
real-name brands to be coming to the fore.

The lack of richness, though, is terminal.
As I understand it, 10% milkfat is the
minimum for ice cream, an if a product
can barely qualify for that, it deserves
being ignored.

It used to be so much better....

So true and so sad; though it never was the
richest of ice creams, it was at one time
one of the most consistently flavorful and
wholesome, with limited numbers of and
sometimes no dubious ingredients.

I guess Wegmans tries harder to winnow out the bad stuff.... ;)

It's worth boycotting the whole brand,
though, which I henceforth will do if I
remember about it.

I've stopped buying it, but have eaten it at other people's homes...
We've been buying Turkey Hill and Perry's, alternating as they go on/off sale... or with a coupon (sometimes Turkey Hill has one in the paper)...

I got Turkey Hill (also reliably flavorful and
wholesome, though no longer so rich as formerly)
the other day. The Colombian coffee was pretty
decent; the fat-free sugar-free vanilla was as
one might expect a disgrace, but what does one
do when having diet-restricted people over for
dinner?

Title: Honey Country Ice Cream
freeze in an ice-cream maker Variations: Add 1 ripe mashed banana
and 1/2 teaspoon of lemon juice or 1/2 cup chopped dates and 1/2 cup chopped walnuts.

The date-walnut variation looks good to me... :)

Seemed to be appealing.

&

So far as I could tell. I think there may be
a recording someplace.

Documenting the oops... ;)

Nah, the oops part will likely be excised
before any kind of distribution.

Oh.... it was an official recording....?

Somewhere in between - limited distribution
among the membership and sponsors and donors,
possibly stocking stuffers for the local PBS
or community station, that kind of thing.

Well ... the dinner I went to Thursday was
typical - dominating the conversation was a
woman who though not amazingly musical nor
amazingly rich is amazingly self-assertive -
she used to be on the board of directors of
the Boston Symphony and the chief exuctive of
the Cabot Trust. The rest of the guest list
went downhill or uphill (depending on your
perspective) from there.

Some things one /hopes/ are once in a lifetime....? ;)

I've learned to roll with these particular
punches, and some of the other diners were
interesting, though hard pressed to get a
word in edgewise.

I know not much about that stuff, nor is it
of major relevance until my skin cracks, which
it has started to do (we went from record cold
to record heat and back to average).

Cracking skin is not a good thing.... needs a bit of moisturizing....
And what is average heat where you were at that time....? Or were the

Forties.

record heat and cold different places...?

Yep, and they switched off, so where it was record
heat one place I was became unseasonably cold after
I left, to arrive just as a major northeast cold
snap was about to end and become quite balmy for a
while. But it's not even that the phenomena cancel,
but rather that the trends are upward and
accelerating since the Industrial Revolution.

Raised them wrong, Or perhaps right - I knew
a guy who always thought he hated lobster, and
his parents didn't try to disabuse him of that
notion - it was much cheaper that way; eventually
he figured it out, and much time was made up for.

And by then, he was paying for his own lobster....?

I lost touch a year or two after that earth-shaking
event, but I presume he can pay for his own lobster
nowadays.

Not really... and more than one of our felines has actually liked the spinach, even straight... :)

Hum.

Cats can be strange... you know that.... ;)

I wonder that we give pets a benefit of the doubt
that we begrudge to family members and other humans.

Title: Fisherman Chowder

And would there be real fishermen in that...? ;)

I was drawn to that title by the lack of
an apostrophe ess.

Thought as much.... :)

That's what made it interesting.

... "And so I thought to myself..." but who else can you think to?

Depends whether you're a telepath.

You do have a point there... :)

Title: Bobbi's Special Chicken
Categories: poultry, dairy, main, semi-homemade
Yield: 4 servings

4 Chicken breasts [I'd use 1 lg or 2 md thighs per person]
1 c Grated cheddar cheese
1 cn Cream of chicken soup [I'd use mushroom]
EVERGLADES SEASONING
1 c Stuffing mix, unprepared
1/4 c Melted margarine [I'd use butter]
Parmesan cheese

Grease a casserole dish. Place 4 chicken breasts (can
be either boneless or with bone, frozen or thawed) in
bottom of casserole. Sprinkle cheese over breasts.
Truthfully, any type of cheese could be used, I used
cheddar. Cover with undiluted cream of chicken soup
(again, you could probably use any cream soup of
choice). Add EVERGLADES SEASONING to taste. Cover
with UNPREPARED Stuffing mix. (I used Stove Top)
Pour melted margarine over this and sprinkle some
parmeson cheese over entire casserole. Bake at 350F
40 to 45 minutes. Serve with noodles or rice. The
soup makes a delicious gravy.

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Quoting Michael Loo to Nancy Backus on 12-16-18 08:12 <=-

not so thrilled with newer specimens of the chips,
especially the flavored ones. As I've noted, the
cooked-in-lard version is still, well, cooked in
lard; and the sour-cream-onion and barbecue
flavors are no less good than the big brands,
which Utz seems to aspire to become one of.

Sometimes bigger isn't better... :)

That goes without saying, but also does the
human urge to go for the big splash. Anyhow,
at the spread for which I made quiche, someone
brought a bag of Utz's sour cream and onion
chips, which turned out to be fine, just as
fine as before. I was somewhat gratified.

It is reassuring when that happens... :)

I believe so - dairying used to be a
generally real family business for a
long time, and Breyer is a not-unheard-of
name among the Penn Dutch.

And Jim looked it up, I believe, and found that it was indeed founded by
a Breyer...... then sold to Kraft, which was taken over by Unilever...

With brands of that antiquity, one would
expect founding fathers or mothers. More
recent trademarks - Mrs. Butterworth and
Betty Crocker, for example, are more likely
to be fictional.

Betty Crocker was known to be fictional when I was an adolescent just
learning to cook from her Cookbook for Boys and Girls... ;)

With the current cultural
mi-mi-mi tendencies, we can expect more
real-name brands to be coming to the fore.

No reason to doubt that Newman's Own is really Paul Newman's company,
for example.... :)

The lack of richness, though, is terminal.
As I understand it, 10% milkfat is the
minimum for ice cream, an if a product
can barely qualify for that, it deserves
being ignored.

It used to be so much better....

So true and so sad; though it never was the
richest of ice creams, it was at one time
one of the most consistently flavorful and
wholesome, with limited numbers of and
sometimes no dubious ingredients.

I guess other brands have taken over that distinction....

I guess Wegmans tries harder to winnow out the bad stuff.... ;)

It's worth boycotting the whole brand,
though, which I henceforth will do if I
remember about it.

I've stopped buying it, but have eaten it at other people's homes...
We've been buying Turkey Hill and Perry's, alternating as they go on/off sale... or with a coupon (sometimes Turkey Hill has one in the paper)...

I got Turkey Hill (also reliably flavorful and
wholesome, though no longer so rich as formerly)
the other day. The Colombian coffee was pretty
decent; the fat-free sugar-free vanilla was as one
might expect a disgrace, but what does one do when
having diet-restricted people over for dinner?

Serve something other than pretend ice cream....? ;) The Turkey Hill
All Natural flavors are a bit richer, and haven't any of the extenders
(also not the fat-free sugar-free).... :) I realise that it wouldn't do
for the diet-restricted sorts....

Title: Honey Country Ice Cream
freeze in an ice-cream maker Variations: Add 1 ripe mashed banana
and 1/2 teaspoon of lemon juice or 1/2 cup chopped dates and 1/2 cup chopped walnuts.

The date-walnut variation looks good to me... :)

Seemed to be appealing.

Yup.

So far as I could tell. I think there may be
a recording someplace.

Documenting the oops... ;)

Nah, the oops part will likely be excised
before any kind of distribution.

Oh.... it was an official recording....?

Somewhere in between - limited distribution
among the membership and sponsors and donors,
possibly stocking stuffers for the local PBS
or community station, that kind of thing.

Ah... So still something that one would want to make as good as
possible.... :)

Well ... the dinner I went to Thursday was
typical - dominating the conversation was a
woman who though not amazingly musical nor
amazingly rich is amazingly self-assertive -
she used to be on the board of directors of
the Boston Symphony and the chief exuctive of
the Cabot Trust. The rest of the guest list
went downhill or uphill (depending on your
perspective) from there.

Some things one /hopes/ are once in a lifetime....? ;)

I've learned to roll with these particular
punches, and some of the other diners were
interesting, though hard pressed to get a
word in edgewise.

Not a complete loss, then.... :)

I know not much about that stuff, nor is it
of major relevance until my skin cracks, which
it has started to do (we went from record cold
to record heat and back to average).

Cracking skin is not a good thing.... needs a bit of moisturizing....
And what is average heat where you were at that time....? Or were the

Forties.

record heat and cold different places...?

Yep, and they switched off, so where it was record
heat one place I was became unseasonably cold after
I left, to arrive just as a major northeast cold
snap was about to end and become quite balmy for a
while. But it's not even that the phenomena cancel,
but rather that the trends are upward and
accelerating since the Industrial Revolution.

We're currently in the 40s, a bit warm for here this time of year...
with tomorrow's high to be in the 50s... but then it turns downward
again to more seasonable 30s....

Raised them wrong, Or perhaps right - I knew
a guy who always thought he hated lobster, and
his parents didn't try to disabuse him of that
notion - it was much cheaper that way; eventually
he figured it out, and much time was made up for.

And by then, he was paying for his own lobster....?

I lost touch a year or two after that earth-shaking
event, but I presume he can pay for his own lobster
nowadays.

As well as any of us, I'd guess....

Not really... and more than one of our felines has actually liked the spinach, even straight... :)

Hum.

Cats can be strange... you know that.... ;)

I wonder that we give pets a benefit of the doubt
that we begrudge to family members and other humans.

We tend to give humans and family similar benefit that we give our
cats... possibly even more... ;) Dogs perhaps not quite so much...
possibly why we have cats and not dogs... (G)

Title: Fisherman Chowder

And would there be real fishermen in that...? ;)

I was drawn to that title by the lack of
an apostrophe ess.

Thought as much.... :)

That's what made it interesting.

Right. :)

ttyl neb

... Remember to finish what you

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