• 687 The rich get richer

    From MICHAEL LOO@1:123/140 to ALL on Saturday, May 05, 2018 20:51:20
    For various reasons I had to buy a ticket to
    Washington on very short notice, and by the
    time I did so, coach was bizarrely expensive,
    and first class wasn't much more, so I sprung
    for first, something that no self-respecting
    cheapskate would do - suffice it to say that
    for coach I'd have paid 3.9x what I normally
    would for this flight, and first was just 4x
    or so. So I'm my usual scruffy self, and I was
    tired, and I fell asleep before they took the
    lunch orders.

    When I came to, they were serving the rather
    meager lunches - a nasty-sounding veggie wrap
    or a cheese plate of wedges of Brie and some
    kind of Cheddarish substance, sided with water
    crackers, a spray of grapes, and a strawberry.
    The perky flight attendant said, Mr. Loo, all
    we have left is the veggie wrap, is that okay,
    and I said, I don't need any lunch, that'll be
    fine (true), just get me a glass of red wine,
    and I let it go at that.

    I don't know what the Cabernet was, but it
    tasted like nothing warmed over; the Chardonnay
    was Hacienda, because I happened to see the label.

    What was interesting was that the flight
    attendant came by with a cheese-and-crackers box
    from coach (list price $7), sensible so far, but
    then offered to make things righter by offering
    miles as compensation for my inconvenience!
    essentially paying me for falling asleep during
    the food orders. The other flight attendant
    (noting my scruffiness) and my seatmate (noting
    my good fortune) were agape.

    The snack box contained the following:

    from the Gilman Cheese Corporation (ominous name)
    came "vintage cheddar" and "white cheddat," both
    of which turned out to be that abomination
    pasteurized process cheese, tinted different colors;
    and a bean-yogurt-cheese dip that I'd tasted before,
    and it tastes like vomit, and I did not care to
    experience it again. Rye bread chips accompanied,
    which tasted of salt (bad) and garlic (good) and
    made the cheddarish things tolerable from the crunch,
    but what mde me the big winner (besides the miles)
    was Everything Parm Crisps, which are 100% Parmesan,
    baked into crunchy rounds that were similar to
    something I've made for some of you, probably at
    an echo picnic. Oh, yeah, the carb-free pizza
    crust at Boyd Pond; possibly other things.

    Completing the package was a tiny tablet of dark
    chocolate from California manufacturer Tcho; this
    wa a slightly vegetal but fairly nice 50-ish bite
    that almost redeemed the red wine. Notes of brown
    or unrefined sugar and coffee.

    So I am the happy recipient of 8750 miles, which
    could go partway to taking a regular poster on this
    echo to the next echo picnic if there should be one,
    and that's a hint, if you're on the fence about
    going. Inquiries by e-mail only - I think all of you
    here know how to do that. Get back to me before
    July 1, 2018.
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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Michael Loo on Sunday, May 06, 2018 02:23:06
    On 05-05-18 20:51, Michael Loo <=-
    spoke to All about 687 The rich get richer <=-

    So I am the happy recipient of 8750 miles, which
    could go partway to taking a regular poster on this
    echo to the next echo picnic if there should be one,

    We do hope that there will be one. More than likely, if so, it will be
    within driving distance for us. And if you just happen to be in this
    area before hand, we could provide transport for you as well.


    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

    Title: SCALLOPS WITH SPINACH AND TOMATOES
    Categories: Pasta, Seafood
    Yield: 4 Servings

    1 tb Olive oil
    2 md Garlic cloves, chopped fine
    1 cn Salt-free whole tomatoes
    -(16-ounce)
    1/2 c Rich, salt-free fish stock
    1 tb Lemon juice
    1 tb Double concentrate tomato
    - paste
    2 ts Sugar
    1 Bay leaf
    1/2 lb Bay scallops
    1/4 lb Spinach leaves (about 1 cup
    -packed), stemmed, ribbed,
    -washed, and cut into 1/2"
    -strips
    Cooked pasta-medium strands

    In a large skillet or saucepan, heat the oil with the garlic over
    moderate heat. When the garlic sizzles, add the tomatoes, crushing
    them with your hands, and stir in the fish stock, lemon juice, tomato
    paste, sugar and bay leaf.

    Simmer for 7 to 10 minutes, until thick but still fairly liquid. Then
    stir in the scallops and the spinach and continue simmering until the
    scallops are cooked through and the sauce is thick, 3 to 5 minutes
    more. Serve over cooked pasta -- suggestions: spaghetti, linguine, or
    fettuccine.

    Dietary information per serving (sauce only):

    Calories: 132 Cholesterol: 19 mg Fat: 3.9 g Sodium: 182 mg

    Source: Pasta Light by Norman Kolpas Typed by Judi Crowe Submitted By
    J MATTHEWS On 05-28-95

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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Nancy Backus on Wednesday, May 09, 2018 02:33:02
    On 05-07-18 16:55, Nancy Backus <=-
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    I wonder if they would be able to attend a picnic held in their
    general vicinity? It would be nice for us to see them again.

    I'd think that likely... when I do connect, I can ask... :) My
    sister was suggesting that perhaps she could let us use her house for
    an echo picnic... she'd be able to put up some of the group as well as having a good kitchen for the cooking... She's been considering running
    a bed and breakfast there, but so far it's still well in the planning stages... She lives in Bloomfield, so not too far from Newark
    exactly...

    That would be very nice. I also recall that your church had a pretty
    good kitchen.

    I almost did not choose this recipe because I detest having unformatted ingredient lists burried in the directions. But then I noticed the last ingredient on the list and it made me think of you.

    OTOH, maybe you might prefer using that Scotch in some other fashion?

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

    Title: SCALLOPS WITH WEE SALMON DUMPLINGS - COUNTRY LIVING
    Categories: .cl, Main dish, Seafood
    Yield: 6 Servings

    Salmon Dumplings (recipe
    -follows)
    1 lb Sea scallops
    2 T All-purpose flour
    4 T Butter
    2 T Lemon juice
    1 T Chopped fresh parsley
    -leaves
    1/4 t Salt
    1 t To 3 t Scotch whisky
    Fresh dill sprigs (opt.)
    Lemon slices (opt.)

    1. Prepare Salmon Dumplings.

    2. If scallops are large, cut in half. Remove gristle from side of
    each scallop, if present. Dry scallops thoroughly; toss with flour.
    In large skillet, heat 2 tablespoons butter. Saute scallops just
    until they are lightly browned.

    3. Add lemon juice to skillet and cook over low heat, stirring until
    liquid thickens slightly. Add Salmon Dumplings, remaining 2 T butter,
    the parsley, and salt; cook just until dumplings are heated through.
    Drizzle with desired amount of Scotch. Remove from heat; spoon
    scallop mixture into scallop shells or onto serving plates. Garnish
    with dill sprigs and lemon slices if desired; serve immediately.

    Salmon Dumplings: In food processor with chopping blade, process 3 oz
    sliced smoked salmon, 1/2 lb cutup scallops, 1 large egg white, 1
    tablespoon chopped fresh dill, 1 t lemon juice, 1/4 t ground white
    pepper, and 1/8 t salt until smooth (do not over process). Add 1/3 C
    heavy cream through the feed tube with motor running; process just
    until combined. Fill a 2-quart saucepan three quarters full of water.
    Heat water to boiling over high heat; reduce heat to medium so water
    simmers. Fill pastry bag, fitted with 1/2-inch-round tip, with salmon
    mixture. Gently squeeze pastry bag over simmering water and cut off
    1/2-inch pieces into the water. Cook dumplings 2 minutes. With
    slotted spoon, remove dumplings from water to tray or bowl; cover and
    refrigerate until ready to use.

    Country Living/March/91 Scanned & fixed by Di Pahl & <gg>

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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to DALE SHIPP on Thursday, May 10, 2018 19:02:00
    Quoting Dale Shipp to Nancy Backus on 05-09-18 02:33 <=-

    I wonder if they would be able to attend a picnic held in their
    general vicinity? It would be nice for us to see them again.

    I'd think that likely... when I do connect, I can ask... :)

    I talked to Burt this afternoon, and they probably would be able to
    attend a picnic in their general vicinity... and would enjoy seeing echo
    folk again...

    My sister was suggesting that perhaps she could let us use her house
    for an echo picnic... she'd be able to put up some of the group as well
    as having a good kitchen for the cooking... She's been considering
    running a bed and breakfast there, but so far it's still well in the
    planning stages... She lives in Bloomfield, so not too far from Newark
    exactly...

    That would be very nice.

    It seemed acceptable in theory to Burt, too... I'd have to check to
    make sure that she'd be available for the dates we are looking at, of
    course...

    I also recall that your church had a pretty good kitchen.

    That could be a backup location, if necessary... we didn't wear out our
    welcome there... ;)

    I almost did not choose this recipe because I detest having
    unformatted ingredient lists burried in the directions. But then I noticed the last ingredient on the list and it made me think of you.
    OTOH, maybe you might prefer using that Scotch in some other fashion? Title: SCALLOPS WITH WEE SALMON DUMPLINGS - COUNTRY LIVING

    Probably... (G) I'm not generally one for cooking with spirits of any
    sort... ;) But the recipe did look interesting... :)

    ttyl neb

    ... But I !!WANT!! the two in the bush...

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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Nancy Backus on Saturday, May 12, 2018 03:02:02
    On 05-10-18 19:02, Nancy Backus <=-
    spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Picnic <=-

    I wonder if they would be able to attend a picnic held in their
    general vicinity? It would be nice for us to see them again.

    I'd think that likely... when I do connect, I can ask... :)

    I talked to Burt this afternoon, and they probably would be able to
    attend a picnic in their general vicinity... and would enjoy seeing
    echo folk again...

    And we all would enjoy seeing them again -- even if for only one day out
    of several.

    My sister was suggesting that perhaps she could let us use her house
    for an echo picnic... she'd be able to put up some of the group as well
    <<SNIP>>
    That would be very nice.

    It seemed acceptable in theory to Burt, too... I'd have to check to
    make sure that she'd be available for the dates we are looking at, of course...

    Keep us posted.

    I also recall that your church had a pretty good kitchen.

    That could be a backup location, if necessary... we didn't wear out
    our welcome there... ;)

    Keep working at it. One way or the other, somewhere around the Newark
    area would be very nice. I have noticed that although Newark itself
    does not have very much in the way of commercial accommodations, there
    are a number of AirBnB listings of various sizes near there.


    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

    Title: SEA SCALLOPS IN HERB BROTH-MARTHA STEWART LIVING
    Categories: .msl, Seafood, Main dish
    Yield: 4 Servings

    1 Bunch flat-leaf parsley
    -(about 2 C)
    1 Bunch watercress (about
    -1 1/2 C), tough stems
    -removed
    2 Shallots, coarsely chopped
    1 1/2 c Water
    1 t Salt, plus more for scallops
    16 Sea scallops (about 1 lb)
    Freshly ground pepper
    1 t Olive oil
    1 t Unsalted butter

    1. In a medium saucepan, combine 1 1/2 C parsley, 1 C watercress,
    shallots, water, and 1 t salt. Bring to a boil. Reduce heat; cover
    and simmer for 30 minutes. Strain; reserve liquid, Set aside.

    2. Season scallops on both sides with salt and pepper. Heat 1/2 t oil
    and 1/2 t butter in a large skillet over medium heat. Cook half the
    scallops for 5 minutes, or until golden brown. Turn and cook for 3
    more minutes. Keep warm; repeat process.

    3. Return broth to a boil. In a blender, combine remaining parsley and
    watercress with hot broth. Cover blender with a towel to absorb any
    splashes, hold top firmly in place, and puree. Strain, and adjust
    seasonings. Pour broth into serving dish; place scallops on top.

    Martha Stewart Living/Feb. & March/94 Scanned & fixed by Di and Gary

    MMMMM


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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to DALE SHIPP on Monday, May 14, 2018 20:42:00
    Quoting Dale Shipp to Nancy Backus on 05-12-18 03:02 <=-

    I wonder if they would be able to attend a picnic held in their
    general vicinity? It would be nice for us to see them again.
    I'd think that likely... when I do connect, I can ask... :)
    I talked to Burt this afternoon, and they probably would be able to
    attend a picnic in their general vicinity... and would enjoy seeing
    echo folk again...

    And we all would enjoy seeing them again -- even if for only one day
    out of several.

    As I've assured them... :)

    My sister was suggesting that perhaps she could let us use her house
    for an echo picnic... she'd be able to put up some of the group as well
    <<SNIP>>
    That would be very nice.
    It seemed acceptable in theory to Burt, too... I'd have to check to
    make sure that she'd be available for the dates we are looking at, of
    course...

    Keep us posted.

    I ran it by her yesterday at church and she thought she'd be available
    any of the three weekends recently floated... She tended to think the
    August ones could be preferable, as school would have started in
    September (and she both tutors some kids and has been homeschooling a
    youngster from our church with special needs), but that as it's a
    weekend, it should probably be ok also....

    I also recall that your church had a pretty good kitchen.
    That could be a backup location, if necessary... we didn't wear out
    our welcome there... ;)

    Keep working at it. One way or the other, somewhere around the Newark area would be very nice.

    I haven't noticed anyone else chiming in that would necessarily prefer
    this area, although Shawn wouldn't have any trouble coming down from
    Toronto area (only a couple of hours or so for him), and Sean was
    indicating that this wouldn't be too far for him, either... Nor have I
    seen anyone from the south offering to host this year, either...

    I have noticed that although Newark itself
    does not have very much in the way of commercial accommodations, there
    are a number of AirBnB listings of various sizes near there.

    Last time, we were exploring that, and as I recall, it ended up being a fizzle.... I'd not be able to do much about that part of it... Maybe
    there would be a better selection of places the weeks we are looking
    at...? Dunno....

    ttyl neb

    ... Butterflies are self-propelled flowers.

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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Nancy Backus on Wednesday, May 16, 2018 01:47:04
    On 05-14-18 20:42, Nancy Backus <=-
    spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Picnic <=-


    My sister was suggesting that perhaps she could let us use her house
    for an echo picnic... she'd be able to put up some of the group as well
    <<SNIP>>
    Keep us posted.

    I ran it by her yesterday at church and she thought she'd be available
    any of the three weekends recently floated... She tended to think the August ones could be preferable, as school would have started in
    September (and she both tutors some kids and has been homeschooling a youngster from our church with special needs), but that as it's a
    weekend, it should probably be ok also....

    It would be good to get a date selected (any date that is agreeable to
    most) so that folks can then make other plans and/or plan for
    accommodations.


    Keep working at it. One way or the other, somewhere around the Newark area would be very nice.

    I haven't noticed anyone else chiming in that would necessarily prefer this area, although Shawn wouldn't have any trouble coming down from

    I seem to recall Michael suggesting that a good while ago, but let him
    speak for himself now.

    Toronto area (only a couple of hours or so for him), and Sean was indicating that this wouldn't be too far for him, either... Nor have I seen anyone from the south offering to host this year, either...

    True.


    I have noticed that although Newark itself
    does not have very much in the way of commercial accommodations, there
    are a number of AirBnB listings of various sizes near there.

    Last time, we were exploring that, and as I recall, it ended up being
    a fizzle.... I'd not be able to do much about that part of it... Maybe there would be a better selection of places the weeks we are looking at...? Dunno....

    The idea that got floated last time was to get an AirBnB that everyone
    could share. There are too many problems with that -- primarily
    commitment ahead of time. We would possibly look into AirBnB in Newark
    or nearby for ourselves in lieu of a motel/hotel.

    ... Butterflies are self-propelled flowers.

    I don't normally see tag lines, but that one caught my eye.

    Although this recipe calls for 1/2 stalk celery, I'll bet they meant 1/2
    rib. OTOH -- your mileage may vary.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

    Title: Kakavia
    Categories: Soup, Greek, Fish, Seafood
    Yield: 8 servings

    1 c Sliced onions or scallions
    -OR- leeks
    1/2 c Olive oil
    4 Tomatoes
    -- peeled, seeded & chopped
    1/2 Stalk fennel or celery
    -- sliced
    3 Sprigs fresh parsley
    1 Bay leaf
    2 Sprigs fresh thyme
    1 c Dry white wine
    5 c -Water, more if necessary
    Salt
    Freshly ground black pepper
    4 lb Fish (3 or 4 kinds) *
    -- cleaned and sliced
    1 Lobster (optional)
    -- cut up & claws cracked
    1 lb Shrimp; peeled & deveined
    1 lb Scallops (optional)
    -OR- Mussels in shells
    -- (scrubbed)
    8 sl Bread (thick); toasted
    Croutons

    * Fish for poaching: bass, cod, hake, haddock, halibut, trout,
    pollack, snapper, rockfish, whiting, etc.)

    In a soup pot with a wide bottom, saute the onions in the oil, without
    browning, until soft. Add the tomatoes, fennel, herbs, wine, and
    water and bring to a boil. Season with salt and pepper to taste and
    simmer for 45 minutes. Pour the stock into a large bowl through a
    sieve, squeezing all the pulp from the vegetables before discarding
    the fibers remaining in the sieve. Return the soup stock to the pot
    and bring to a boil.

    Meanwhile, lightly salt the fish and let stand for 10 minutes, then
    rinse with water and lower into soup, adding water only if needed to
    cover the fish. Lower the heat and simmer for 5 minutes, then add
    the lobster. Cover and simmer 5 minutes longer, then add the shrimp
    and scallops or mussels and simmer an additional 10 minutes. Taste
    and adjust the seasonings.

    Arrange the toast slices in large soup plates. Serve the varied
    fishes and broth in each bowl, hot, with croutons in a separate plate.

    NOTE: Kakavia is frequently made in the following variation: Cook 2
    to 3 fish with the vegetables and strain with the vegetables to make
    a thicker stock. Continue to cook the remaining seafood as described
    above.

    Source: The Food of Greece, by Vilma Liacouras Chantiles
    Typing errors courtesy of: Karen Mintzias
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    (1:102/125)

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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to DALE SHIPP on Friday, May 18, 2018 19:55:00
    Quoting Dale Shipp to Nancy Backus on 05-16-18 01:47 <=-

    My sister was suggesting that perhaps she could let us use her house
    for an echo picnic... she'd be able to put up some of the group as well
    I ran it by her yesterday at church and she thought she'd be available
    any of the three weekends recently floated... She tended to think the
    August ones could be preferable, as school would have started in
    September (and she both tutors some kids and has been homeschooling a
    youngster from our church with special needs), but that as it's a
    weekend, it should probably be ok also....

    It would be good to get a date selected (any date that is agreeable to most) so that folks can then make other plans and/or plan for accommodations.

    Agreed.

    I have noticed that although Newark itself does not have
    very much in the way of commercial accommodations, there
    are a number of AirBnB listings of various sizes near there.
    Last time, we were exploring that, and as I recall, it ended up being
    a fizzle.... I'd not be able to do much about that part of it...
    Maybe there would be a better selection of places the weeks we are
    looking at...? Dunno....

    The idea that got floated last time was to get an AirBnB that everyone could share. There are too many problems with that -- primarily commitment ahead of time.

    True... to be nearer to Burt and Shirley.... The other problem was more
    about having the entire house, including kitchen, for the duration...
    and as I remember, there weren't really any good choices for that...

    We would possibly look into AirBnB in
    Newark or nearby for ourselves in lieu of a motel/hotel.

    As I mentioned above, my sister would have space at her house for at
    least some of the people coming... She is seriously contemplating
    becoming an AirBnB herself... this would be somewhat of a trial run for
    that... She could also let people with campers park on her property,
    with electric hookup, water for one camper anyway as well... just not
    full sewer hookup...

    ... Butterflies are self-propelled flowers.

    I don't normally see tag lines, but that one caught my eye.

    It's a pretty one... ;)

    Although this recipe calls for 1/2 stalk celery, I'll bet they meant
    1/2 rib. OTOH -- your mileage may vary.

    I'd guess it was 1/2 rib they meant, especially of the fennel... What
    I've seen of the fennel is rather large... I'd likely use 1 or 2 ribs of celery, to that amount of onion/scallion.... Maybe they did mean the
    stalk, though... ;)

    Title: Kakavia
    Categories: Soup, Greek, Fish, Seafood
    Yield: 8 servings
    1 c Sliced onions or scallions -OR- leeks
    1/2 c Olive oil
    4 Tomatoes -- peeled, seeded & chopped
    1/2 Stalk fennel or celery -- sliced
    3 Sprigs fresh parsley
    1 Bay leaf
    2 Sprigs fresh thyme
    1 c Dry white wine
    5 c -Water, more if necessary
    Salt
    Freshly ground black pepper
    4 lb Fish (3 or 4 kinds) *
    -- cleaned and sliced
    1 Lobster (optional) -- cut up & claws cracked
    1 lb Shrimp; peeled & deveined
    1 lb Scallops (optional)
    -OR- Mussels in shells -- (scrubbed)
    8 sl Bread (thick); toasted
    Croutons
    * Fish for poaching: bass, cod, hake, haddock, halibut, trout,
    pollack, snapper, rockfish, whiting, etc.)

    ttyl neb

    ... A chicken crossing the road is poultry in motion.

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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Nancy Backus on Sunday, May 20, 2018 02:07:04
    On 05-18-18 19:55, Nancy Backus <=-
    spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Picnic <=-

    As I mentioned above, my sister would have space at her house for at
    least some of the people coming... She is seriously contemplating
    becoming an AirBnB herself... this would be somewhat of a trial run
    for that... She could also let people with campers park on her
    property, with electric hookup, water for one camper anyway as well... just not full sewer hookup...


    Where is your sister located (general area). East of Rochester, etc.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

    Title: CROCK POT GERMAN POTATO SALAD
    Categories: None, German
    Yield: 4 Servings

    2 Potatoes -- sliced
    1/2 c Onions -- copped
    1/2 c Celery sliced
    1/4 c Green peppers -- diced
    1/4 c Vinegar
    1/4 c Oil
    Chopped parsley
    Sliced bacon -- cooked and
    Crumbled

    Combine all ingredients except parsley and bacon. Add salt and
    pepper to taste. Stir and cook for 5-6 hours in crock pot. Add sugar
    if needed. Garnish with bacon and parsley.

    Recipe By :

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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to DALE SHIPP on Monday, May 21, 2018 19:52:00
    Quoting Dale Shipp to Nancy Backus on 05-20-18 02:07 <=-

    As I mentioned above, my sister would have space at her house for at
    least some of the people coming... She is seriously contemplating
    becoming an AirBnB herself... this would be somewhat of a trial run
    for that... She could also let people with campers park on her
    property, with electric hookup, water for one camper anyway as well...
    just not full sewer hookup...

    Where is your sister located (general area). East of Rochester, etc.

    South and east of Rochester... about 40 minutes driving for me...
    probably about the same from Newark... Bloomfield is south of Victor and
    west of Canandaigua...

    ttyl neb

    ... " ! , , ... !" (Laryngitis)

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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Ruth Haffly on Thursday, March 28, 2019 03:02:02
    On 03-26-19 11:55, Ruth Haffly <=-
    spoke to Nancy Backus about cat & mouse <=-


    Don't know if we could comfortably fit the picnic group in there,
    depends on how many we have. I'd like to find a mom & pop's type bbq
    place for Friday night but may end up going for something else.

    One of the pleasant duties of being host for a picnic is trying out
    potential restaurants for the group.

    what sort of head count do you have so far? Two of you, Nancy, Michael,
    and the two of us seem to be firm. Sean and xxCarol as possible. Are
    there others?


    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

    Title: Jerk Chicken Wings
    Categories: Appetizer, Sauce, Chicken
    Yield: 48 servings

    MMMMM--------------------DOTTIE CROSS TMPJ72B-------------------------
    24 Whole chicken wings --
    (about 4 pounds)
    8 Scallions -- cut into 1"
    Piece
    4 Fresh jalapeno peppers --
    Seeded and coarsely
    2 tb Distilled white vinegar
    1 tb Ground allspice
    4 Garlic cloves -- chopped
    2 ts Dried thyme
    1 ts Salt
    1/2 ts Freshly ground pepper
    1/4 ts Cayenne
    1/4 c Vegetable oil
    Lime wedges

    1. Rinse chicken with cold water and pat dry. Cut off and discard
    pointed tip of each wing and halve wings at the main joint.

    2. In a food processor, combine scallions, jalapeno peppers, vinegar,
    allspice, garlic, thyme, salt, pepper, and cayenne.
    Process until well blended. With machine on, slowly pour in oil and
    puree until a thick paste forms.

    3. In a large bowl, combine chicken wings and jerk paste. Toss until
    wings are well coated. Cover and refrigerate overnight 4. Preheat
    broiler. Arrange wings on broiler pan about 6 inches from heat and
    broil, turning once, until nicely browned outside and cooked through,
    about 20 minutes total.

    Serve warm or at room temperature with lime wedges and lots of
    napkins.

    COMMENTS: Don't worry, be happy! The name of this recipe is no
    reflection on the cook; jerk is a fiery Jamaican marinade for chicken,
    pork, or beef.

    Source: 365 Snacks, Hors D'oeuvres & Appetizers Reformatted by: CLM,
    HCPM52C

    Recipe By :

    From: Meg Antczak Date: 10-07
    Intercook Ä

    MMMMM


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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dale Shipp on Thursday, March 28, 2019 13:03:27
    Hi Dale,

    Don't know if we could comfortably fit the picnic group in there,
    depends on how many we have. I'd like to find a mom & pop's type bbq
    place for Friday night but may end up going for something else.

    One of the pleasant duties of being host for a picnic is trying out potential restaurants for the group.

    We've got about 6 months to look. I want to check out some of the places
    in several of the small towns nearby--don't want to have to go to
    Raleigh unless there's nothing better closer by.



    what sort of head count do you have so far? Two of you, Nancy,
    Michael, and the two of us seem to be firm. Sean and xxCarol as
    possible. Are
    there others?


    No word back yet from Sean and xxCarol. Both of them will probably wait
    until a bit closer on to the date, to see how things shake out with work
    and other committments.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Ruth Haffly on Saturday, March 30, 2019 02:30:02
    On 03-28-19 12:03, Ruth Haffly <=-
    spoke to Dale Shipp about Picnic <=-

    One of the pleasant duties of being host for a picnic is trying out potential restaurants for the group.

    We've got about 6 months to look. I want to check out some of the
    places in several of the small towns nearby--don't want to have to go
    to Raleigh unless there's nothing better closer by.

    One of the things we did was to scout out places where one might get a
    decent Maryland crab cake. I can say that not all of them were in the
    top tier. One place served us something that did not deserve the name.
    It was shredded meat (maybe crab) and a lot of spiced filling. It might
    have been something I would have gotten in a Florida restaurant -- But I
    think even there they would have known better. Call it deviled crab if
    you like, but not Maryland Crab Cake. I don't recal which picnic that
    was for, nor if the group did go someplace with a decent crab cake.


    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

    Title: ASPARAGUS AND CRABMEAT SALAD
    Categories: Appetizers, Seafood
    Yield: 4 Servings

    1 c Mayonnaise
    1 tb Lemon juice - fresh
    1 1/2 ts Tomato paste
    1 1/2 ts Shallot - minced
    1/2 ts Dijon mustard
    1/4 ts Pepper
    1 lb Asparagus - trimmed
    8 oz Crabmeat - cooked
    4 lg Boston lettuce leaves - or
    -butter lettuce leaves

    Calories per serving: Number of Servings: 4 Fat
    grams per serving: Approx. Cook Time: Cholesterol per
    serving: Marks:

    *DIRECTIONS*

    Whisk mayonnaise, lemon juice, tomato paste, shallot, Dijon mustard
    and pepper in medium bowl. Cover and refrigerate until ready to use.
    (Can be prepared 3 days ahead.) Cook asparagus in large pot of
    boiling salted water until crisp-tender, about 4 minutes. Transfer to
    bowl of ice water and cool. Drain and pat dry. mix crabmeat into
    mayonnaise. Season to taste with salt. Arrange 1 lettuce leaf on
    each plate. Top with asparagus. Spoon crabmeat mayonnaise over and
    serve.

    Bon Appetit, April, 1991.

    MMMMM


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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dale Shipp on Saturday, March 30, 2019 17:50:43
    Hi Dale,

    One of the pleasant duties of being host for a picnic is trying out potential restaurants for the group.

    We've got about 6 months to look. I want to check out some of the
    places in several of the small towns nearby--don't want to have to go
    to Raleigh unless there's nothing better closer by.

    One of the things we did was to scout out places where one might get a decent Maryland crab cake. I can say that not all of them were in the

    Is that how you ended up at the place you took us to once? As I recall,
    the crab cakes were good sized.

    top tier. One place served us something that did not deserve the
    name. It was shredded meat (maybe crab) and a lot of spiced filling.
    It might have been something I would have gotten in a Florida
    restaurant -- But I think even there they would have known better.
    Call it deviled crab if you like, but not Maryland Crab Cake. I

    Maybe call it a midwestern crab cake? (G)


    don't recal which picnic that was for, nor if the group did go
    someplace with a decent crab cake.

    I'm thinking about finding an eastern NC style bbq place for supper
    Friday night. Smithfield's (a chain) is in town but it's not a place
    where lingering over a meal is common. Another thought is to do our own
    bbq for Thursday night (arrival) and maybe go out for prime rib on
    Friday, if it looks like we're going to have a small group.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Ruth Haffly on Monday, April 01, 2019 03:01:08
    On 03-30-19 16:50, Ruth Haffly <=-
    spoke to Dale Shipp about Picnic <=-

    One of the pleasant duties of being host for a picnic is trying out potential restaurants for the group.

    We've got about 6 months to look. I want to check out some of the
    places in several of the small towns nearby--don't want to have to go
    to Raleigh unless there's nothing better closer by.

    One of the things we did was to scout out places where one might get a decent Maryland crab cake. I can say that not all of them were in the

    Is that how you ended up at the place you took us to once? As I
    recall, the crab cakes were good sized.

    I am not sure if that year we took the group out for crab cakes. I do
    recall that we took the two of you to a place called Timbuktu. At one
    point, they were rated as being in the top 3 or so places. The place
    that is consistently number 1 is over near the airport. It and Timbuktu
    have a common history, perhaps once being owned by the same people. You
    had the crab cake and yes, it was large and decent. It did suffer from
    being fried rather than broiled, which made it a bit tougher on the
    outside.

    top tier. One place served us something that did not deserve the
    name. It was shredded meat (maybe crab) and a lot of spiced filling.
    It might have been something I would have gotten in a Florida
    restaurant -- But I think even there they would have known better.
    Call it deviled crab if you like, but not Maryland Crab Cake. I

    Maybe call it a midwestern crab cake? (G)

    Nope -- that was a local restaurant and should have known better. The midwestern title might have been applied to an offering by Outback. We
    went there and they were offering a steak and crabcake combo. Our
    waitress warned us that these crabcakes were made according to a recipe
    from corporate -- and were not Maryland crabcakes. SO, we declined the
    combo.

    I'm thinking about finding an eastern NC style bbq place for supper
    Friday night. Smithfield's (a chain) is in town but it's not a place
    where lingering over a meal is common. Another thought is to do our
    own bbq for Thursday night (arrival) and maybe go out for prime rib on Friday, if it looks like we're going to have a small group.

    BBQ is one of those things that has a variety of interpretations
    depending on where you are. I can't recall where all of them are from
    but there is vinegar, mustard, tomato based, and molasses based. Then
    just to mess things up, in Texas BBQ is beef and not pork. Personally,
    I prefer my pork BBQ with just a touch of sauce. My favorite is one
    called bone-suckin-sauce. Gail likes hickory smoked (sort of on the
    molasses type). We once did smoked pork here and bought ten different
    sauces for folks to use. I think that only about three bottles got
    opened -- and there was no real winner in even those few.

    From what I recall your saying, you have a pretty good prime rib place.
    I'd vote for your BBQ with limited sauces on Thursday and prime rib out
    on Friday.


    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

    Title: Gosht Bhuna From Gaylord's Restaurant
    Categories: Main dish, Side dish, Meat, Indian
    Yield: 4 servings

    MMMMM------------------------INGREDIENTS-----------------------------
    2 lg Onions, sliced
    1 1/2 lb Lamb, cut into
    - (1 1/2 inch sq cubes)
    4 tb Oil
    1/2 oz Ginger, grated
    3 Cloves garlic
    1 tb Paprika
    1 tb Cayenne
    1 ts Cumin powder
    2 lg Tomatoes, quartered
    1/2 c Water
    Salt and pepper
    1 ts Garam masala

    ================================> Directions <======================

    1. Saute the onions slightly, then saute the pieces of lamb in the
    oil with the ginger, paprika, cayenne and cumin powder until the
    onions are brown and all sides of the meat seared. Drain excess oil.

    2. Add the quartered tomatoes and the water. Cook over slow fire until
    done, about 20 minutes. Salt and pepper to taste.

    3. Before serving, sprinkle with a little Garam Masala.

    ================================> Nutrition <=========================

    Calories: 361 Protein (%): 54
    Protein (grams): 35 Vitamin A (%): 9
    Carbohydrate (grams): 10 Vitamin C (%): 28
    Fat (grams): 20 Thiamine (%): 20
    Cholesterol (milligrams): 109 Riboflavin (%): 28
    Sodium (milligrams): 384 Niacin (%): 53
    Unsaturated (grams): 13 Calcium (%): 4
    Saturated (grams): 4 Iron (%): 22

    ============================> Notes and Credits <===================

    Preparation: saute Cuisine: Indian
    Source: Gaylord Food Group: Meat
    Meals dinner Courses Main, side
    Temperature hot [shared by Dorothy Hair Davis, 4/94]
    From: Dorothy Hair Date: 29 Apr 94

    MMMMM


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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dale Shipp on Monday, April 01, 2019 16:31:18
    Hi Dale,

    We've got about 6 months to look. I want to check out some of the
    places in several of the small towns nearby--don't want to have to go
    to Raleigh unless there's nothing better closer by.

    One of the things we did was to scout out places where one might get a decent Maryland crab cake. I can say that not all of them were in the

    Is that how you ended up at the place you took us to once? As I
    recall, the crab cakes were good sized.

    I am not sure if that year we took the group out for crab cakes. I do recall that we took the two of you to a place called Timbuktu. At one point, they were rated as being in the top 3 or so places. The place
    that is consistently number 1 is over near the airport. It and
    Timbuktu have a common history, perhaps once being owned by the same people. You had the crab cake and yes, it was large and decent. It
    did suffer from being fried rather than broiled, which made it a bit tougher on the
    outside.

    At the picnic you hosted in 2007 (our first ever), Michael made some
    crab cakes that were really good. IIRC, he fried them, and that's
    probably why I ordered them that way at Timbuktu. There's a place in
    town that does Maryland style crab cakes (a couple of brothers, from
    MD). Overall they're pretty good, but IMO, the could go a bit lighter on
    their seasoning.

    top tier. One place served us something that did not deserve the
    name. It was shredded meat (maybe crab) and a lot of spiced filling.
    It might have been something I would have gotten in a Florida
    restaurant -- But I think even there they would have known better.
    Call it deviled crab if you like, but not Maryland Crab Cake. I

    Maybe call it a midwestern crab cake? (G)

    Nope -- that was a local restaurant and should have known better. The midwestern title might have been applied to an offering by Outback.
    We went there and they were offering a steak and crabcake combo. Our waitress warned us that these crabcakes were made according to a
    recipe from corporate -- and were not Maryland crabcakes. SO, we
    declined the combo.

    Good thing you were forewarned. (G)


    I'm thinking about finding an eastern NC style bbq place for supper
    Friday night. Smithfield's (a chain) is in town but it's not a place
    where lingering over a meal is common. Another thought is to do our
    own bbq for Thursday night (arrival) and maybe go out for prime rib on Friday, if it looks like we're going to have a small group.

    BBQ is one of those things that has a variety of interpretations
    depending on where you are. I can't recall where all of them are from
    but there is vinegar, mustard, tomato based, and molasses based. Then just to mess things up, in Texas BBQ is beef and not pork.
    Personally, I prefer my pork BBQ with just a touch of sauce. My
    favorite is one
    called bone-suckin-sauce. Gail likes hickory smoked (sort of on the molasses type). We once did smoked pork here and bought ten different sauces for folks to use. I think that only about three bottles got
    opened -- and there was no real winner in even those few.

    I like the eastern NC vinegar based sauce--usually has a bit of hot
    pepper in but not really much of anything else. It's good on pork but
    don't think it would work that well for beef. The other sauces are more
    of a cover up for the meat, IMO. If they're the only choices, I'll then
    usually have my meat (pork or beef) unsauced.


    From what I recall your saying, you have a pretty good prime rib
    place. I'd vote for your BBQ with limited sauces on Thursday and prime
    rib out on Friday.

    OK, have to get input from the others.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Ruth Haffly on Wednesday, April 03, 2019 03:09:02
    On 04-01-19 15:31, Ruth Haffly <=-
    spoke to Dale Shipp about Picnic <=-

    At the picnic you hosted in 2007 (our first ever), Michael made some
    crab cakes that were really good. IIRC, he fried them, and that's
    probably why I ordered them that way at Timbuktu. There's a place in
    town that does Maryland style crab cakes (a couple of brothers, from
    MD). Overall they're pretty good, but IMO, the could go a bit lighter
    on their seasoning.

    I strongly suspect that what Michael did was to fry in a skillet with
    butter. The fried ones at Timbuktu were probably deep fat fried. That
    made them tougher, and not the flavor profile that cooking in butter
    would add.


    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

    Title: Murgha Kari (Chicken Curry With Tomatoes)
    Categories: Chicken, Indian, Curry
    Yield: 1 servings

    4 md Onions, chopped
    2 tb Curry powder
    1/2 c Butter or cooking oil
    1 c OR 1 can (8-oz.) tomato
    -sauce
    2 ts Salt
    1 Frying chicken (2 to 3
    -pounds)
    3/4 c Hot water

    This dish from the Punjab takes only 30 minutes to prepare. In india,
    fresh tomatoes would be used in this dish.

    Use a casserole or large skillet with lid. Cook onions and curry
    powder in butter for 10 to 15 minutes. Add tomato sauce and salt.
    Disjoint and skin chicken, and place in sauce. Cook, uncovered, over
    medium heat, turning frequently until sauce becomes quite dry and
    chicken tests done with fork, about 15 minutes. Add hot water, cover
    pot, and cook over low heat for 5 minutes.

    Makes 4 servings.

    From: Steve Herrick
    Source: [Woman's Day Encyclopedia of Cookery - Vol. 6]
    From: Fred Towner Date: 10-16-94

    MMMMM


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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dale Shipp on Wednesday, April 03, 2019 15:29:50
    Hi Dale,

    At the picnic you hosted in 2007 (our first ever), Michael made some
    crab cakes that were really good. IIRC, he fried them, and that's
    probably why I ordered them that way at Timbuktu. There's a place in
    town that does Maryland style crab cakes (a couple of brothers, from
    MD). Overall they're pretty good, but IMO, the could go a bit lighter
    on their seasoning.

    I strongly suspect that what Michael did was to fry in a skillet with butter. The fried ones at Timbuktu were probably deep fat fried.
    That made them tougher, and not the flavor profile that cooking in
    butter
    would add.

    That's probably the difference; I suspect the local place deep fries
    them also. They moved from down town to one of the outer lying plazas
    but we've not been to either location in some years.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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