never thought I'd be > using a computer just about every day some
years later.
Your grandparents probably didn't think they'd be
using electric household appliances. Things change.

My dad's parents probably had very few; they both died in 1949. Mom's
father died in 1958 so he saw some more, but just missed the start of
home stereo systems. My maternal grandmpther died in 1974; she had some electic home appliances but not the number I have.

We had a Philco cabinet radio and then an RCA TV. I
don't recall a time when we didn't have access to gas
or electric ranges and ovens and an electric fridge.
Washing machines, there was a wringer thing in the
first and maybe subsequent apartments, but by the first
house in 1959 or so there was a washer and dryer.

would be the greatest disaster in history for
civilization. I was right, but the guys touting
the benefits were also right.

Like most anything, some good to it, some not so good.

Thing is that the power of speed may set various
balls rolling with too much force to stop until
many weird things happen.

So what's the opposite of inertia? (G) If you can hold something steady
so it doesn't move (including abstract, as well as real
balls)...........

Ertia ... not really; I think acceleration,
possibly momentum. Colloquially: activity,
enthusiasm, dynamism, and so on.

I use silicone spatulas and sil-pat mats on cookie sheets but that's

the > only use it has in our kitchen.
I'm not too fond of such things myself, just
pointing out that they exist, and some people
use them, speaking as one who routinely burns
himself through silicone gloves that are
supposedly certified to high temperatures.

I use thick padded (I think it's a cotton batting) mitt and rarely burn myself, even at high temps.

I use what is available in whatever kitchen is
available. There has been a fad for silicone
things in recent years.

The solution seems to be cheap aluminum, either
disposable or thrift-store.

He went with disposable plastic boxes, used a whipped cream topping instead. He also used Mrs. Thinster's coconut cookies instead of

vanilla > wafers.
Sensible.

I'd have rather had the vanilla wafers. But, the plastic boxes did work
for the banana pudding.

Cheaper, too. It's sad but understandable that
vanilla wafers are no longer flavored with all-real
vanilla. I myself have taken to artificial flavor
lately because of the huge rise in price of the
real thing.

That was all my parents could afford. But, I wasn't stunted by

it--got > to go to other kids birthday parties from time to time.
For me it was pretty much my choice - I think my
parents would have scrimped for a bit to make it
happen if my heart had been set on a big birthday
bash.

There were enough of us kids that my parents couldn't do it. Me, having
a summer birthday, some years we went to a turn out spot on the
Appalachian Trail that ran nearby. It had a shelter, picnic table and
fire site so we were able have a picnic, grilling a steak or something similar. Had the birthday cake when we got home.

Sounds like all my heart would desire, especially
the steak part.

If you do get deficiencies, there are other
ways to deal with them.

I thought there would be; beats eating dirt. (G)

Dirt's cheaper, though. And may taste better.

Around here, it's mostly clay.

Clay is a major component of most east coast
dirt; its advantages are that it's fairly easy
to clean and it apparently tastes good. I was
told that there are convenience stores in the
south that sell it purified for consumption.

And there's a medical precedent, anyway;
remember that Kaopectate is essentially dirt.

Eat a peck...............

Both smithsonianmag.com and npr.org have had
features on it.

MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

Title: Sour Cream Apple Cake
Categories: Emeril, Desserts, Cakes
Yield: 12 Servings

1 1/2 lb Cooking apples, peeled,
Cored and sliced, such as
Granny Smith
1 1/2 ts Ground cinnamon
3/4 ts Fresh grated nutmeg
2 c Plus 1 Tb sugar
1 1/2 Sticks of butter, softened
1/2 ts Baking powder
1 1/2 ts Baking soda
1 ts Salt
2 1/4 c Flour
2 Eggs
1 ts Pure vanilla extract
1 c Sour cream
2 c Sweetened whipped cream

In a mixing bowl, toss the apples with 1/2 ts of the cinnamon,
1/2 ts of the nutmeg, and 1 Tb on the sugar. In a large
oven-proof skillet, combine 1/2 stick of the butter and 1/2 cup of the
sugar, over medium-high heat. Stir with a wooden spoon until the
mixture caramelized and becomes syrupy. Spread the apples evenly over
the bottom of the pan. Remove from the heat. Using an electric mixer,
fitted with a paddle, cream the remaining 1 1/2 cups of sugar and
remaining stick of butter together. Sift the remaining 1 ts of
cinnamon, remaining 1/2 ts of nutmeg, baking powder, baking
soda, salt and flour together. Add the eggs, vanilla and sour cream
to the butter mixture. Beat until smooth. Add the sifted flour
mixture, a little at a time. Beat until smooth. Pour the batter over
the apples. Preheat oven to 350 degrees. Bake for about 40 min or
until golden and the cake pulls away from the sides. Remove from the
oven and cool for 15 min. Invert the cake onto a platter and
serve warm. Garnish with whipped cream.

Yield: 12 servings

SOURCE: Emeril Live! Cooking Show Copyright 1998, TV FOOD NETWORK;
SHOW #EMIB69 - TAILGATING

MM Format by Dave Drum 12 January 2000 FROM: Uncle Dirty Dave's
Kitchen

MMMMM
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Cheaper, too. It's sad but understandable that
vanilla wafers are no longer flavored with all-real
vanilla. I myself have taken to artificial flavor
lately because of the huge rise in price of the
real thing.

I cannot recall the last time I ate a vanilla wafer, nor had home made
banana pudding with them. I might have had a small sample of the
pudding on a buffet line at some random time in the past decade or two.
As to the arificial vanilla, Gail refuses to buy it. BJs only had that
the last time we wanted vanilla and so she ordered the real stuff from
Amazon. It is used in a number of her christmas cookie recipes.

I wonder why this is called Emerald? Was it lifted out of Emerald's
cookbooks? Given the ingredient colors, it might be renamed "ruby
seafood salad" :-}}

MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

Title: EMERALD SEAFOOD SALAD *
Categories: Salads, Vegetables
Yield: 4 Servings

MMMMM----------------------PATTI - VDRJ67A---------------------------
1/2 lb Scallops; washed well
1/2 c Dry white wine
1/4 c Water
1 Sprig parsley
1/2 Bay leaf
1/4 ts Dried thyme leaves
2 Peppercorns
1/2 lb Shrimp; cooked
1 lg Red apple; skinned, cored,
- and diced
1/2 sm Sweet red onion; thinly slid
2 lg Kiwi fruits; peel, sliced
1/2 c Walnut halves
1 Bunch spinach; wash, trim

MMMMM--------------------VINAIGRETTE DRESSING-------------------------
3 tb Olive oil
1 tb Lemon juice
1/8 ts Salt
1/8 ts Pepper

Place scallops in saucepan with wine and water. Put parsley, bay leaf,
thyme and peppercorns in cheesecloth and tie together. Add to
scallops in saucepan. Poach scallops gently over low heat for 5
minutes. Remove scallops. Allow to cool. Combine scallops with
shrimp, apple, onion, kiwi fruit and walnuts. Combine dressing
ingredients in a screw top jar. Shake to mix. Pour salad dressing
over salad. Toss well. Serve over a bed of spinach. Serve with fresh
French bread.

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Hi Michael,

using electric household appliances. Things change.

My dad's parents probably had very few; they both died in 1949.

Mom's > father died in 1958 so he saw some more, but just missed the
start of > home stereo systems. My maternal grandmpther died in 1974;
she had some > electic home appliances but not the number I have.

We had a Philco cabinet radio and then an RCA TV. I

We had a small radio that sat on top of the fridge in the 2nd house
(moved into that one when I was 3 1/2). Got our first tv when I was in
4th grade. Dad got a stereo system, Mom had a few electric kitchen
gadgets. He'd built the house so had quite a large tool (electric and
manual) tool assortment; I think some of them had belonged to his
father.

don't recall a time when we didn't have access to gas
or electric ranges and ovens and an electric fridge.

Same here, the house Dad built had an electric range (similar to what
Nancy has now). The old place had a gas stove so Mom was hesitant at
first to use the new electric one. She'd grown up with gas.

Washing machines, there was a wringer thing in the
first and maybe subsequent apartments, but by the first
house in 1959 or so there was a washer and dryer.

I don't remember when when we got the first washer, do have faint
memories of the wringer. It might have been when we made the move. Got
the dryer in 1966, a couple of years after Mom started working. Before
that laundry was hung outside on good days, in the cellar when it was
wet or too cold outside.

Thing is that the power of speed may set various
balls rolling with too much force to stop until
many weird things happen.

So what's the opposite of inertia? (G) If you can hold something

steady > so it doesn't move (including abstract, as well as real

balls)...........

Ertia ... not really; I think acceleration,
possibly momentum. Colloquially: activity,
enthusiasm, dynamism, and so on.

Probably momentum would best fit the choice of words.

I use silicone spatulas and sil-pat mats on cookie sheets but

that's > ML> the > only use it has in our kitchen.

I'm not too fond of such things myself, just
pointing out that they exist, and some people
use them, speaking as one who routinely burns
himself through silicone gloves that are
supposedly certified to high temperatures.

I use thick padded (I think it's a cotton batting) mitt and rarely

burn > myself, even at high temps.

I use what is available in whatever kitchen is
available. There has been a fad for silicone
things in recent years.

I've noticed--but not gone out and replaced baking pans, etc with it.
Don't plan to either.

The solution seems to be cheap aluminum, either
disposable or thrift-store.

He went with disposable plastic boxes, used a whipped cream

topping > ML> > instead. He also used Mrs. Thinster's coconut cookies instead of > ML> vanilla > wafers.

Sensible.

I'd have rather had the vanilla wafers. But, the plastic boxes did

work > for the banana pudding.

Cheaper, too. It's sad but understandable that
vanilla wafers are no longer flavored with all-real
vanilla. I myself have taken to artificial flavor
lately because of the huge rise in price of the
real thing.

Steve found a recipe for vanilla wafers, made some a while ago. They
were pretty good.

That was all my parents could afford. But, I wasn't stunted

by > ML> it--got > to go to other kids birthday parties from time to time. > ML> For me it was pretty much my choice - I think my

parents would have scrimped for a bit to make it
happen if my heart had been set on a big birthday
bash.

There were enough of us kids that my parents couldn't do it. Me,

having > a summer birthday, some years we went to a turn out spot on
the

Appalachian Trail that ran nearby. It had a shelter, picnic table

and > fire site so we were able have a picnic, grilling a steak or something > similar. Had the birthday cake when we got home.

Sounds like all my heart would desire, especially
the steak part.

It was always cooked to very well done; the way my parents liked it.

If you do get deficiencies, there are other
ways to deal with them.

I thought there would be; beats eating dirt. (G)

Dirt's cheaper, though. And may taste better.

Around here, it's mostly clay.

Clay is a major component of most east coast
dirt; its advantages are that it's fairly easy
to clean and it apparently tastes good. I was
told that there are convenience stores in the
south that sell it purified for consumption.

And there's a medical precedent, anyway;
remember that Kaopectate is essentially dirt.

Eat a peck...............

Both smithsonianmag.com and npr.org have had
features on it.

Still nothing I'm going to try.

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Catch you later,
Ruth
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