• 621 extended travel was crusty

    From MICHAEL LOO@1:123/140 to RUTH HAFFLY on Monday, December 03, 2018 16:17:02
    Fits right in, and just so the packaging
    stays intact, it's no doubt as good as cans,
    unless the mice find the stash.
    The plastic bag doesn't weigh as much as paper, a big plus if you're schlepping it on your back in/out of a site. Mice might be able to get

    In my experience mice are undaunted by even
    heavy gauge plastic if the goodies within
    are tempting enough.

    into it, if they like the taste of plastic. Don't know what a determined
    bear would do with it.

    Bear would probably toss the whole package
    down the gullet in one go.

    I saw something a few weeks ago about how that word is not supposed
    to > be used any more. Doubt the restriction will take hold as it's so
    ingrained into the American culture now.
    I think it's faded in and out of being a
    respectable term over the decades. As with
    so many such, it's hard to keep track.
    It'll be one of those words that is going to be hard to enforce the non
    usage of. Same as our generation knew of Pluto as a planet for so many
    years; probably most of us continue thinking it is. (G)

    Pluto will return, mark my words.

    I'm thinking the fading in and out of such terms
    as oriental and black is more analogous. Negro,
    which was the polite term when we were growing up,
    seems permanently out, though.

    but the Deseret News uses it, so I don't know
    what that weirdness is all about.
    Somebody has a bee in their bonnet.
    But yes, somebody's bee is buzzing
    particularly loud.
    Well, Utah is the Beehive state.................(G)

    I didn't get the feeling that so many of the
    bees were fussing, just one big one.

    I'm guessing that the cumin was chosen
    deliberately to mask whatever rancidity
    and off flavors might be accentuated by
    that kind of treatment.
    Possibly so, and other spices added to keep with the sort of southwest
    taste of the cumin. I might see if the other packages have a web site
    listed on the label, and check out the site, see what else they offer.

    It's not a bad thing, and one of the motivators
    in the traditional use of herbs and spices was
    to mask peculiar flavors, not necessarily stale
    or oxidized ones.

    Sometimes the best idea is to go along with whatever others around
    you > are eating.
    That may in general be a good policy. Means
    that I'll never go to Veganland, especially
    not with Lilli.
    And, it only works up to a point. If others are indulging in something I don't care for and a reasonable alternative is readily available, I'll
    go for the alternative.

    out of (ergk) politeness, I ate cottage cheese today.

    Places where we stayed or ate at, they definately kept the meat/milk separation of koshee, as well as the ban on pork. It didn't bother
    us > not to have pig products or to not have dairy and meat at the
    same meal. > I think some of the younger folks on the trip were
    somewhat bothered by > it tho.
    None of these things would bother me - I can go
    a month without pork stroganoff, but what do you
    think the kibbutzim did with the flayed carcasses
    after they made the pigskin things.
    Fried pork rinds? (G)

    That would be literally eating the profits.

    Title: Calabaza #2
    You wouldn't even try this? It looks good, IMO.
    Nup. And if one took away the zucchini, it
    wouldn't be calabaza any more.
    Either way, probably something neither of us will encounter in a
    reasonable lifetime unless we decide to live south of the border.

    Hard to tell, but I'd be actively avoidant,

    Zucchini Stroganoff
    Grilled veggies with a garlic, salt & pepper garnish. No where near stroganoff in my book.

    Nowhere near food in mine!

    Cookie's Chili Powder
    categories: spice
    yield: 1 batch

    1 Tb cayenne pepper
    5 Tb cumin powder
    1 Tb oregano
    2 Tb basil
    1 Tb salt
    1 Tb garlic powder

    Mix all well. Keep in glass container with seal.
    Use to taste in chili.

    Clay Irving www.panix.com/~clay
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to MICHAEL LOO on Tuesday, December 04, 2018 13:28:29
    Hi Michael,

    Fits right in, and just so the packaging
    stays intact, it's no doubt as good as cans,
    unless the mice find the stash.
    The plastic bag doesn't weigh as much as paper, a big plus if you're schlepping it on your back in/out of a site. Mice might be able to
    get

    In my experience mice are undaunted by even
    heavy gauge plastic if the goodies within
    are tempting enough.

    Sorry, meant to say cans, not paper. I'm not firing on all cylinders
    right now. We've not had many dealings with mice, thankfully, over the
    years and places we've lived, so I'm just going on thoughts, not
    experience.


    into it, if they like the taste of plastic. Don't know what a
    determined > bear would do with it.

    Bear would probably toss the whole package
    down the gullet in one go.

    Quite possibly so.

    I saw something a few weeks ago about how that word is not
    supposed > ML> to > be used any more. Doubt the restriction will take hold as it's so > ML> > ingrained into the American culture now.
    I think it's faded in and out of being a
    respectable term over the decades. As with
    so many such, it's hard to keep track.
    It'll be one of those words that is going to be hard to enforce the
    non > usage of. Same as our generation knew of Pluto as a planet for
    so many > years; probably most of us continue thinking it is. (G)

    Pluto will return, mark my words.

    My mom was in early grade school when it was named a planet so she tells
    on herself--teacher asked the class what Pluto was. Mom piped up "Mickey Mouse's dog".


    I'm thinking the fading in and out of such terms
    as oriental and black is more analogous. Negro,
    which was the polite term when we were growing up,
    seems permanently out, though.


    Except for the organisation United Negro College Fund. But yes, in the
    last 50 or so years, that term has been very much oblitereated from the American vocabulary.

    but the Deseret News uses it, so I don't know
    what that weirdness is all about.
    Somebody has a bee in their bonnet.
    But yes, somebody's bee is buzzing
    particularly loud.
    Well, Utah is the Beehive state.................(G)

    I didn't get the feeling that so many of the
    bees were fussing, just one big one.

    The drones/worker bees are too busy doing their own thing to be too
    concerned with the correct terminology.

    I'm guessing that the cumin was chosen
    deliberately to mask whatever rancidity
    and off flavors might be accentuated by
    that kind of treatment.
    Possibly so, and other spices added to keep with the sort of
    southwest > taste of the cumin. I might see if the other packages have
    a web site > listed on the label, and check out the site, see what
    else they offer.

    It's not a bad thing, and one of the motivators
    in the traditional use of herbs and spices was
    to mask peculiar flavors, not necessarily stale
    or oxidized ones.

    Yes, but it would be interesting to see if the meat is offered in other flavorings. I might, for instance, want an Italian flavored meat pouch,
    to use instead of southwestern.


    Sometimes the best idea is to go along with whatever others
    around > ML> you > are eating.
    That may in general be a good policy. Means
    that I'll never go to Veganland, especially
    not with Lilli.
    And, it only works up to a point. If others are indulging in
    something I > don't care for and a reasonable alternative is readily available, I'll > go for the alternative.

    out of (ergk) politeness, I ate cottage cheese today.

    I have some in the fridge right now. Steve doesn't care for it but it's
    an alternative higher protein/lower carb easy grab for me.


    Places where we stayed or ate at, they definately kept the
    meat/milk > ML> > separation of kosher, as well as the ban on
    pork. ML> It didn't bother > ML> us > not to have pig products or to
    not have ML> dairy and meat at the > ML> same meal. > I think some of
    the younger ML> folks on the trip were ML> > ML> somewhat bothered by
    it tho. ML> > ML> None of these things would bother me - I can go
    a month without pork stroganoff, but what do you ML> > ML>
    think the kibbutzim did with the flayed carcasses ML> > ML> after they
    made the pigskin things. ML> > Fried pork rinds? (G)

    That would be literally eating the profits.

    Yes, but they are quite tasty.

    Title: Calabaza #2
    You wouldn't even try this? It looks good, IMO.
    Nup. And if one took away the zucchini, it
    wouldn't be calabaza any more.
    Either way, probably something neither of us will encounter in a reasonable lifetime unless we decide to live south of the border.

    Hard to tell, but I'd be actively avoidant,

    Zucchini Stroganoff
    Grilled veggies with a garlic, salt & pepper garnish. No where near stroganoff in my book.

    Nowhere near food in mine!

    Depends on how it's prepared--as a in a quick bread/muffin, its presence
    isn't that obvious. As a pasta sub, it's all over the place, but a good
    sauce will make it edible. One bbq place in town hat we liked would
    slice it, drege it in a seasoned flour (spicy) and fry it--good stuff.

    Cookie's Chili Powder
    categories: spice
    yield: 1 batch

    1 Tb cayenne pepper
    5 Tb cumin powder
    1 Tb oregano
    2 Tb basil
    1 Tb salt
    1 Tb garlic powder

    I'd probably mix up a smaller amount to try, then do a larger quantity.

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    Ruth
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