not been so recognized, he'd still done pretty well
for himself (if not for the environment), also having
invented the disposable plastic soft drink bottle.

Done well for himself, the environment is another question.

And his kids. The son I'm familiar with was free
to follow his interest, which was to be a cop,
which may not be the most advancement-friendly
job that ever was for a geeky gawky kid.

It works both ways, which makes for an interesting juxtaposition in one's life.

The problem arises when someone is naive but
thinks s/he isn't. Or when someone is very up on
things and pretends not to be.

That could create a number of problems, best left not commented on, on
this forum.

Just so long as nobody's offensive - I don't much care
for propriety, though; I'm not going to complain just
so things remain low-key and noncontroversial.

We didn't get tv until 1962, saw some at my grandmother's but don't remember any ads for McDs. Could be, it was more of a local

marketing > gimmick. First McDs ads I can recall might be late 60s
era.
This was a radio ad! I was never much of a
TV person.

OK, my parents put on the local radio in the morning for news/school
closings (in winter) but then turned it off. For a while, when cable
came into the area, they listend to an easy listening station out of CT.
That was lost in a reconfiguration but over all, they never really got
into it.

Understandable, but radio was - and so far as I can
tell still is - more worthwhile than television.

I was describing how to make something to my
friend Chris of Chris and Rob fame, and she got
this "huh" look on her face. Turns out she has
been on this planet for over 55 years and never
successfully cooked anything to speak of.

Does he cook or do they have a Plan B?

There's a lot of eating out involved, and there's
always the grill, a manly profession, only Rob
doesn't like beef, so where's the fun in that?

Thing is that I'm not confident that they will
actually know what's good as opposed to what's
barely good enough.

Sad.

For sure.

To use someting like McDs as your standard for good taste--bleurgh!

More room for improvement, for the few who
eventually take the opportunity,

That was the point of cholent and - as far
as I am concerned - the only justification
for it (that's perhaps an overstatement - just
make it with beef or lamb (not chicken, which is
heretical anyway and get rid of the barley, and
it will be fine).

It's an easy do, good tasting cold weather meal.

I could make one that I liked, but none of
the standard recipes hold any appeal - not
enough Maillard and generally too starchy.

But I'm not barking up the wrong tree. BTW, how do you know if a

tree is > a dogwood one? By its bark. (G)
I have a haunch you're hounding me.

No, just seeing how fur we can carry this out.

Gotta be kind of husky to carry any more.

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Categories: Mexican, Main dish
Yield: 8 servings

3 c Dry pinto beans (1-1/2 lb) 2 1/2 qt Water
1 Meaty hambone or 1/4 lb Salt pork or cubed
bacon
1 ts Salt, or more to taste

Wash and pick over the beans, removing loose skins or shriveled beans.
Put
in a large covered pot and cover with hot water. Soak over night if you
want to cut down on cooking time. When beans start to simmer add ham
bone,
salt pork or bacon. Add more water as needed but only hot or boiling
wnater. Never add cold water the beans will turn dark. If you cook
without
a lid the beans will also turn a dark color. When the skins are almost as
tender as the inside of the beans, they are done. They should not be
broken. Add salt and allow to stand before serving. Unattributed

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Hi Michael,

not been so recognized, he'd still done pretty well
for himself (if not for the environment), also having
invented the disposable plastic soft drink bottle.

Done well for himself, the environment is another question.

And his kids. The son I'm familiar with was free
to follow his interest, which was to be a cop,
which may not be the most advancement-friendly
job that ever was for a geeky gawky kid.

If it's the job he wanted, then he was right to pursue it. When my older brother started college, Mom and Dad suggested he take some teacher
training courses. He didn't, took a number of electives and majored in partying. He didn't finish a degree. Parents never suggested education
courses for me but I did take some. Finished my degree, have never
taught professionally. I've no idea what, if anything, was suggested to
younger siblings.

It works both ways, which makes for an interesting

juxtaposition in > ML> > one's life.

The problem arises when someone is naive but
thinks s/he isn't. Or when someone is very up on
things and pretends not to be.

That could create a number of problems, best left not commented on,

on > this forum.

Just so long as nobody's offensive - I don't much care
for propriety, though; I'm not going to complain just
so things remain low-key and noncontroversial.

I'd rather not get into areas that could lead to controversy so will
back off on getting too deeply into subjects of that sort. Better to
back out and keep my head.

We didn't get tv until 1962, saw some at my grandmother's but

don't > ML> > remember any ads for McDs. Could be, it was more of a
local

marketing > gimmick. First McDs ads I can recall might be late

60s > ML> era.

This was a radio ad! I was never much of a
TV person.

OK, my parents put on the local radio in the morning for news/school closings (in winter) but then turned it off. For a while, when cable came into the area, they listend to an easy listening station out of

CT. > That was lost in a reconfiguration but over all, they never
really got > into it.

Understandable, but radio was - and so far as I can
tell still is - more worthwhile than television.

Depends on the radio station. We listen to a lot of conservative talk
radio when in the car/truck for local trips. Longer ones, we will have
the same on but switch to music (oldies or Christian) or old radio
shows. We will also put on some of the music we've put on files--that
ranges from Israel Kamakawiwo'ole to Simon and Garfunkle to Glad to
Mannheim Steamroller to The Gettys--well, you get the range. (G) We'll
have the file set for "shuffle" so don't know who will follow what.

I was describing how to make something to my
friend Chris of Chris and Rob fame, and she got
this "huh" look on her face. Turns out she has
been on this planet for over 55 years and never
successfully cooked anything to speak of.

Does he cook or do they have a Plan B?

There's a lot of eating out involved, and there's

Figured that would be a share of it.

always the grill, a manly profession, only Rob
doesn't like beef, so where's the fun in that?

There's all sorts of things that can be grilled, not just beef. We've
grilled pizza a few times. We also do a lot of chicken, don't think
we've done fish but maybe once or twice, done lamb chops, Italian sausage.............................

Thing is that I'm not confident that they will
actually know what's good as opposed to what's
barely good enough.

Sad.

For sure.

To use someting like McDs as your standard for good taste--bleurgh!

More room for improvement, for the few who
eventually take the opportunity,

Hopefully so.

That was the point of cholent and - as far
as I am concerned - the only justification
for it (that's perhaps an overstatement - just
make it with beef or lamb (not chicken, which is
heretical anyway and get rid of the barley, and
it will be fine).

It's an easy do, good tasting cold weather meal.

I could make one that I liked, but none of
the standard recipes hold any appeal - not
enough Maillard and generally too starchy.

We did try, and liked, the one in the Israeli cook book but there's
always room for experimenting with others.

But I'm not barking up the wrong tree. BTW, how do you know

if a > ML> tree is > a dogwood one? By its bark. (G)

I have a haunch you're hounding me.

No, just seeing how fur we can carry this out.

Gotta be kind of husky to carry any more.

Built like a boxer?


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