yellowstone.net has an interesting page on geysers
but doesn'tlist any that fit your description.

Must be a park secret.

Could be. I've not heard about it, anyhow.

And not worth asking about probably.

Unless one were planning on a bit of backcountry
hiking, which would for me be a possibility but not
a great possibility.

Most likely a "nice to think about, but not actually do so" for us.

Of which there are many, but that's life.

Subway and Starbuck's and being chased by Dunkin. Wendy's
might have kid appeal, but the others just mentioned
probably not.

Kids get fixated on one place early on and it stays with them. Our

Can't see that happening with some of those chains
we've mentioned, especially Starbuck's, though I
did love coffee as a small child.

generation wasn't brought up with fast food as a reasonable alternative

I remember the first McDonald's I ever saw, on
University Boulevard in College Park, and I remember
when the sign went up "over 100000 sold" and
thinking, gee, that's impossible.

(usually eat at home, eating out was at an actual restaurant) so we're

Seems sensible and to be encouraged, and that's
part of why we're in this place, I guess.

more flexible with our choices. Our kids ate at fast food places at a
much younger age, and more often, than we did; their kids consider it
normal. I know both of our girls have taken their kids to real sit down restaurants so they do know that eating out isn't always a fast food
place.

An interesting evolution. I suppose with the
joints being ubiquitous, this train of events
makes sense not in the making sense sense but
in the I can understand why it happened sense.

Could but wouldn't, even for someone as glamorous.

Not worth the bother?

Not worth the fiber, perhaps.

Depends on if you think you need it or not. Publix had some lentils,
split peas and great Northern beans on their close out table yesterday,
still over a year before their best by date. I picked up a bag of each
to use this winter.

Nobody needs Great Northern beans.

I thought it was purr-fectly acceptable.

Let me pan that.

Litter-ally?

Let me give you the scoop on that.

Just don't box me in the corner.

O-clay.

---------- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.00

Title: Flowerpots (baked Alaska) Helen Corbitt - Texas Highways Mag
Categories: Desserts
Yield: 8 servings

1 Small Yellow Cake layer 1 Meringue
1 pt Ice Cream or Sherbet 3 Egg Whites
8 Clay Flower Pots 6 tb Sugar
8 Large Soda Straws 1/2 ts Vanilla

+-------------------------------MERINGUE------------------------------
NOTE: Flower pots should be 2 1/2 in. high by 3 in. Diameter.
Sterilize flower pots by boiling. Dry pots. Place a piece of plain
yellow cake in the bottom of each pot to cover the hole in the bottom.
Add
ice cream or sherbet to pots until three-quarters full. In the middle of
each pot, force a large ice cream soda straw and cut off even with top of
the pot. Pile meringue around the inside of the pot, leaving s over the
soda straw open. Bake at 400 degrees until the meringue turn brown,
(about
5 minutes). Insert fresh flowers in the soda straw. For a holiday look,
use
holly and red roses or carnations. For the Meringue: Beat the egg whites
until foamy before slowly adding the sugar, beat well after each
addition.
Beat until shiny and stiff, but not dry. Fold in vanilla. Each flowerpot
requires about a third of a cup of meringue Each serving, (vanilla ice
cream was used for analysis) contains 262 calories, 5 grams protein, 9
grams fat, 42 grams carbohydrate, 158 mg sodium and 38 mg cholesterol.
This
recipe used to be prepared at the Hotel Driskill in Austin, Tx, b Ms.
Corbitt. According to Texas Highways Magazine, Dec 90, it is now served
by
the hotel only at Banquets. Ms. Corbitt passed away in 1978 but her
cookbook, Helen Corbitt's Cookbook is still enjoyed.

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Hi Michael,

Unless one were planning on a bit of backcountry
hiking, which would for me be a possibility but not
a great possibility.

Most likely a "nice to think about, but not actually do so" for us.

Of which there are many, but that's life.

Yes, and the oldeer we get, the less chance we have of doing some of the
things we want. Steve had been wanting to see Yellowstone since
childhood; Rachel & family's move to northern Utah made it within reach
for us. A couple of years ago on a drive out to see the girls, I'd
wanted to see the Petrified Forest and Painted Desert. We didn't have
the time then but took the time this last trip to do so.

Subway and Starbuck's and being chased by Dunkin. Wendy's
might have kid appeal, but the others just mentioned
probably not.

Kids get fixated on one place early on and it stays with them. Our

Can't see that happening with some of those chains
we've mentioned, especially Starbuck's, though I
did love coffee as a small child.

I've never been a coffee drinker. My parents just had one cup a day, in
the morning. Dad, like probably most coffee drinkers of his age, started
doing so in college. But for him, college was after several years in the
Navy during WWII and prior to that, a couple of years of work after he
finished high school. Now, tho, I think with Starbucks and suchlike,
people have started drinking it at a younger age.

generation wasn't brought up with fast food as a reasonable

alternative

I remember the first McDonald's I ever saw, on
University Boulevard in College Park, and I remember
when the sign went up "over 100000 sold" and
thinking, gee, that's impossible.

I remember getting a meal (burger, fries, drink) for 45 cents!

(usually eat at home, eating out was at an actual restaurant) so

we're

Seems sensible and to be encouraged, and that's
part of why we're in this place, I guess.

Too many people relying on the clown, king or otherwise to feed their
families, sad.

more flexible with our choices. Our kids ate at fast food places at

a > much younger age, and more often, than we did; their kids consider
it > normal. I know both of our girls have taken their kids to real
sit down > restaurants so they do know that eating out isn't always a
fast food

place.

An interesting evolution. I suppose with the
joints being ubiquitous, this train of events
makes sense not in the making sense sense but
in the I can understand why it happened sense.

I can follow your reasoning, and while it may not be the best way to
feed the family, it's better than having them go without.

Could but wouldn't, even for someone as glamorous.

Not worth the bother?

Not worth the fiber, perhaps.

Depends on if you think you need it or not. Publix had some lentils, split peas and great Northern beans on their close out table

yesterday, > still over a year before their best by date. I picked up
a bag of each > to use this winter.

Nobody needs Great Northern beans.

No, but some may want them.

I thought it was purr-fectly acceptable.

Let me pan that.

Litter-ally?

Let me give you the scoop on that.

Just don't box me in the corner.

O-clay.

No cat-astrophies either.


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On 11-13-18 14:03, Ruth Haffly <=-
spoke to Michael Loo about 544 taking, taking a pass <=-

Yes, and the oldeer we get, the less chance we have of doing some of
the things we want. Steve had been wanting to see Yellowstone since childhood; Rachel & family's move to northern Utah made it within
reach for us. A couple of years ago on a drive out to see the girls,
I'd wanted to see the Petrified Forest and Painted Desert. We didn't
have the time then but took the time this last trip to do so.

In 1979 I went to a summer math conference in Monterey, CA. We took two
weeks driving out on a southern route and another two weeks driving back
on a northern route. On the way out, we did stop at the petrified
forest. To me it is the second best natural wonder I have ever
witnessed in person (first was the lava fields on Hawaii). I was not as thrilled with the painted dessert though. Perhaps one has to catch that
at just the right time of sunlight pattern to see it at its best. On
the way back, we went through Yosemite and Yellowstone. They were also
well worth the visit.

We also got to experience a moderate earthquake while there -- 5.5 about
100 miles away. I would never want to be anywhere near a 7.0 or more.
What we felt was not threatening, but sure was unsettling. The earth
should not move like that.


MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

Title: Faki (Hellenic Lentil Soup)
Categories: Soup, Greek, Diabetic, Vegan
Yield: 8 servings

1 c Lentils
1 md Onion; chopped
2 Garlic cloves; up to 3
-chopped
1 Celery stalk; chopped
3 Plum tomatoes, fresh; and
-juices -OR-
5 -Italian type plum tomatoes
1 Bay leaf
4 Parsley sprigs
Mint, fresh; basil or other
-favorite herb
1/4 c Olive oil
1 pn -Salt
1 pn -Pepper
3 tb Vinegar
Oregano, dried; for garnish

"This recipe also appeared in my cookbook, The Food of Greece".

Wash lentils in a soup pot. Cover with 8 cups of cold water, and
bring to a boil. Cover the pot, turn off the heat, and let stand for
an hour. Bring to a boil, and stir in the onion, garlic and celery.
Cover and simmer for 30 minutes.
Add the tomatoes. bay leaf, parsley, your favorite herb and half the
oil. Simmer for 30 minutes, stirring occasionally. Add enough water
to make 8 cups. Remove the bay leaf.
Season the soup, and add the remaining oil. Taste, and adjust the
seasonings.
Serve hot with the vinegar and garnished with oregano, rubbed between
your palms.

SERVES:8

Nutrients for 3/4 cup
Calories: 129
Exchanges: 1 starch/bread; 1 fat
g mg
carbohydrate: 13 potassium: 282.5
protein: 5 sodium: 21
fat: 7 cholesterol: 0
fiber: 2.5

SOURCE: _Diabetic Cooking From Around the World_ by Vilma Liacouras
Chantiles
posted by Anne MacLellan
From: Anne Maclellan
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Hi Dale,

Yes, and the oldeer we get, the less chance we have of doing some of
the things we want. Steve had been wanting to see Yellowstone since childhood; Rachel & family's move to northern Utah made it within
reach for us. A couple of years ago on a drive out to see the girls,
I'd wanted to see the Petrified Forest and Painted Desert. We didn't
have the time then but took the time this last trip to do so.

In 1979 I went to a summer math conference in Monterey, CA. We took
two weeks driving out on a southern route and another two weeks
driving back on a northern route. On the way out, we did stop at the petrified
forest. To me it is the second best natural wonder I have ever

And most everything probably hasn't changed in the 39 years since you
saw it. Maybe a newer visitor's center but the trees, etc are still
sitting where they were then.

witnessed in person (first was the lava fields on Hawaii). I was not

Don't know what I'd count as best natural wonder for me; I've seen
enough of them, all impressive, to have a ranking. Maybe Niagara Falls,
for the sheer amount of water would be #1.

as thrilled with the painted dessert though. Perhaps one has to catch that at just the right time of sunlight pattern to see it at its best.

Time of day is everything for that one.

On
the way back, we went through Yosemite and Yellowstone. They were
also well worth the visit.

What about Mount Rushmore? True, it's man made but still, rather
impressive.

We also got to experience a moderate earthquake while there -- 5.5
about 100 miles away. I would never want to be anywhere near a 7.0 or more.
What we felt was not threatening, but sure was unsettling. The earth should not move like that.

We went thru a 5.3 when we were out in Monterey/Pacific Grove. Epicenter
was about 30 miles off shore, not too much further down the coast. Saw
the sesmographic trace out of it at the natural history museum in Golden
Gate Park a couple of weeks later--interesting. Haven't seen any sesmo
trace out of the one we had here about 7 years ago.

Title: Faki (Hellenic Lentil Soup)
Categories: Soup, Greek, Diabetic, Vegan
Yield: 8 servings

1 c Lentils
1 md Onion; chopped
2 Garlic cloves; up to 3
-chopped
1 Celery stalk; chopped
3 Plum tomatoes, fresh; and
-juices -OR-
5 -Italian type plum tomatoes
1 Bay leaf
4 Parsley sprigs
Mint, fresh; basil or other
-favorite herb
1/4 c Olive oil
1 pn -Salt
1 pn -Pepper
3 tb Vinegar
Oregano, dried; for garnish

"This recipe also appeared in my cookbook, The Food of Greece".

Hmmm, I've done varients on this and just called it "lentil soup". (G)

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On 11-16-18 20:24, Ruth Haffly <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about 544 taking, taking a <=-

driving back on a northern route. On the way out, we did stop at the petrified
forest. To me it is the second best natural wonder I have ever

And most everything probably hasn't changed in the 39 years since you
saw it. Maybe a newer visitor's center but the trees, etc are still sitting where they were then.

witnessed in person (first was the lava fields on Hawaii). I was not

Walking out on the nude black lava fields was a mind changing experiene
for me. I might as well have been walking on the moon for the reaction
it gave me. It might be even more exciting to see it now that it is
erupting.

Don't know what I'd count as best natural wonder for me; I've seen
enough of them, all impressive, to have a ranking. Maybe Niagara
Falls, for the sheer amount of water would be #1.

We lived near there for a summer in 1963 (Buffalo, NY) and went across
several times. I agree it is impressive. What would really be
impressive would to have seen it when they turned the falls off.

as thrilled with the painted dessert though. Perhaps one has to catch that at just the right time of sunlight pattern to see it at its best.

Time of day is everything for that one.

Agreed. We like to go leaf peeping in the fall. Time of day and angle
of the sunlight make a big difference in that.

What about Mount Rushmore? True, it's man made but still, rather impressive.

It was. Might like to go back someday to see Crazy Horse. It was just beginning when we were there in 1979.


MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

Title: Red Lentil Loaf
Categories: Main dish, Vegetarian, Vegan
Yield: 6 servings

1 c Dried red lentils
3 c Water
1 c Rolled oats
1 1/2 ts Egg replacer
2 tb Water
1 c Cooked brown rice
1 c Grated carrots
2 tb Low-sodium tamari
2 Scallions; chopped
2 Garlic cloves; minced
1 ts Dried sage

MMMMM----------------------RED PEPPER SAUCE---------------------------
1 Red bell pepper; chopped
1/2 c Light soy milk
2 tb Tahini or cashew butter
1 tb Arrowroot; PLUS:
1 ts Arrowroot
1 pn Sea salt
2 tb Dijon mustard
1 pn Cayenne pepper
1 tb Minced fresh basil; -OR-
1/2 ts -Dried basil

Cook lentils in 3 cups water (44-55 minutes on stovetop or 5-9
minutes in pressure cooker).

Preheat oven to 350 F. Oil a loaf pan and sprinkle sides and bottom
with a tablespoon of oats.

Whisk egg replacer with 2 tablespoon water until light and foamy.

In a large bowl, combine egg replacer and lentils with remaining
ingredients.

Press mixture into loaf pan and bake for 40 minutes. Remove from
oven and let stand for 5 to 10 minutes before slicing.

Per serving: 149 cal, 7 g prot, 340 mg sod, 28 g carb, 1 g fat, 0 mg
chol, 31 mg calcium

* HINTS: Use one whole egg instead of egg replacer and water.
* For a firmer loaf, add 1/4 cup dried bread crumbs to mixture
* before baking.
* Serve with Red Pepper Sauce (below)

RED PEPPER SAUCE (makes about 1 cup):
=====================================
Place bell pepper, soy milk, tahini and arrowroot in a blender. Blend
until smooth and creamy.

Pour mixture into a saucepan and bring to a boil while stirring
constantly with a wire whisk. Reduce heat to low and whisk in salt,
mustard and cayenne pepper. Sprinkle with basil and serve.

Per serving (2 tablespoons): 48 cal, 2 g prot, 78 mg sod, 13 g carb,
3 g fat, 0 mg chol, 10 mg calcium

From: Vegetarian Gourmet - Winter 1993
Typed for you by Karen Mintzias
From: Karen Mintzias Date: 08 Feb 94

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Hi Dale,

driving back on a northern route. On the way out, we did stop at the petrified
forest. To me it is the second best natural wonder I have ever

And most everything probably hasn't changed in the 39 years since you
saw it. Maybe a newer visitor's center but the trees, etc are still sitting where they were then.

witnessed in person (first was the lava fields on Hawaii). I was not

Walking out on the nude black lava fields was a mind changing
experiene for me. I might as well have been walking on the moon for
the reaction it gave me. It might be even more exciting to see it now that it is
erupting.

I think the Apollo astronauts did some of their training there. I know
they also used the meteor crater in AZ for some also. Steve wanted to
get closer to the volcano when we went to the Big Island but buses
weren't allowed on the road--it was too narrow for them to turn around
on. Part of the area where we were able to get out and walk around in,
in 2005, is now lava covered. A boat tour, especially a night time one,
would be rather impressive but I don't know if I would want to deal with
the smoke/ash/etc.

Don't know what I'd count as best natural wonder for me; I've seen
enough of them, all impressive, to have a ranking. Maybe Niagara
Falls, for the sheer amount of water would be #1.

We lived near there for a summer in 1963 (Buffalo, NY) and went across several times. I agree it is impressive. What would really be
impressive would to have seen it when they turned the falls off.

I did see the American Falls turned off in 1969. My mom was going to
summer school in western NY so we went out a couple of times in the 9
weeks she was gone. Went over to the Falls once--saw the Falls "turned
off" but for a good sized trickle.

as thrilled with the painted dessert though. Perhaps one has to catch that at just the right time of sunlight pattern to see it at its best.

Time of day is everything for that one.

Agreed. We like to go leaf peeping in the fall. Time of day and
angle of the sunlight make a big difference in that.

Very much so, but with now that we're back on EST, the best time of day
is shorter.

What about Mount Rushmore? True, it's man made but still, rather impressive.

It was. Might like to go back someday to see Crazy Horse. It was
just beginning when we were there in 1979.

We drove up to the entrance in June, on our way to Rushmore, but they
wanted a $24. admission fee. We didn't have the time (needed to get back
east for a funeral) so just went on to Rushmore. Had a quick lunch
there (in the camper), saw "The Heads", got some Thomas Jefferson
vanilla ice cream (the recipe he'd brought back from France) and hit the
road again. Hopefully we'll get back to explore the area in more depth
at some point.

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On 11-18-18 20:02, Ruth Haffly <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Natural sights <=-

Walking out on the nude black lava fields was a mind changing
experiene for me. I might as well have been walking on the moon for
the reaction it gave me. It might be even more exciting to see it now that it is erupting.

I think the Apollo astronauts did some of their training there. I know they also used the meteor crater in AZ for some also. Steve wanted to
get closer to the volcano when we went to the Big Island but buses
weren't allowed on the road--it was too narrow for them to turn around
on. Part of the area where we were able to get out and walk around in,
in 2005, is now lava covered. A boat tour, especially a night time
one, would be rather impressive but I don't know if I would want to
deal with the smoke/ash/etc.

We were there on a four island tour with our square dance group in
January 1979. That was before it started erupting again, and the coach
was able to drive from Hilo down and around the volcano and then to
Kona. I can understand your reluctance to get into the fumes.



MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

Title: Cheese-Topped Bean Soup
Categories: Soup, Vegetable
Yield: 1 servings

1/4 c Dried black beans
1/4 c Dried black-eyed peas
1/4 c Dried lentils
1/4 c Dried Great Northern beans
1/4 c Dried red beans
1/4 c Dried pinto beans
6 c Water
3/4 c Finely chopped onion
1/2 c Finely chopped celery
1/2 c Chopped carrot
1/4 ts Salt
1/4 ts Ground pepper
1 cn Crushed tomatoes (28
-ounces), undrained
2 Cloves garlic, minced
1/3 c Chopped fresh parsley
1 tb Chili powder
2 tb Lemon juice
-Dash
1 c Shredded Monterey Jack
-cheese (4 ounces)
-hot sauce

Sort and wash the beans. Place them in a large, non-aluminum Dutch
oven. Add water to cover by 2 inches and bring to a boil. Cook for 2
minutes. Remove from the heat, cover, and let stand for 1 hour.

Drain the beans and return to the pot. Add 6 cups of water, the
onion, celery, carrot, salt, pepper, tomatoes and garlic. Bring to a
boil, then reduce the heat, cover, and simmer for 2 hours or just
until the beans are tender. Stir in the parsley, chili powder, lemon
juice and hot sauce. Cook, uncovered, for an additional 15 minutes.

Ladle the soup onto individual soup bowl and top with the cheese.

Makes 3 quarts (serving size: 1 1/2 cups spoup and 2 tablespoons
cheese).

Calories 196 (23% from Fat); Protein 12.2 g; Fat 5.1g (Sat 2.8 g, Mono
1.3 g, Poly 0.4g); Carbohydrate 27.1 g; Fiber 6.6 g; Cholesterol 11
mg; Iron 3 mg; Sodium 302 mg; Calcium 188 mg.

[Vegetarian Menu; Cooking Light; January/February 1995]

Posted by Fred Peters.
From: Fred Peters Date: 01-22-95

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Hi Dale,

experiene for me. I might as well have been walking on the moon for
the reaction it gave me. It might be even more exciting to see it now that it is erupting.

I think the Apollo astronauts did some of their training there. I know they also used the meteor crater in AZ for some also. Steve wanted to
get closer to the volcano when we went to the Big Island but buses
weren't allowed on the road--it was too narrow for them to turn around
on. Part of the area where we were able to get out and walk around in,
in 2005, is now lava covered. A boat tour, especially a night time
one, would be rather impressive but I don't know if I would want to
deal with the smoke/ash/etc.

We were there on a four island tour with our square dance group in
January 1979. That was before it started erupting again, and the

Just about 4 years; it started erupting in January, 1983.

coach was able to drive from Hilo down and around the volcano and then
to
Kona. I can understand your reluctance to get into the fumes.

I had bronchitis on that trip so the fumes were especially bad for me.
One nice thing about the bus trip--we were on our own for lunch in Hilo.
Most of the people went either to a seafood restaurant near where the
bus let us off or to the nearest McDs. We'd spotted a Greek place on the
way in, so walked over there and had a better meal than any of the other
folks. Those that went to the seafood place said that both the food and
service were bad & what can you say about McDs?

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Quoting Dale Shipp to Ruth Haffly on 11-18-18 03:03 <=-

Don't know what I'd count as best natural wonder for me; I've seen
enough of them, all impressive, to have a ranking. Maybe Niagara
Falls, for the sheer amount of water would be #1.

We lived near there for a summer in 1963 (Buffalo, NY) and went across several times. I agree it is impressive. What would really be
impressive would to have seen it when they turned the falls off.

I've never seen that, but I have seen a photograph of the Falls
frozen... that was impressive even in a photo... ;) I've been to see
them a couple of times....

ttyl neb

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