Quoting Nancy Backus to Jim Weller <=-
My friend the Flavour Trader is getting national recognition. He is
one of 13 young up and coming chefs being recognized by the Toronto
Globe and Mail this year.
Very good for him... :)
Joe Robertson built more than 50 bars throughout England,
but not a chain: each one was unique - JW
I trust he found able personnel to keep them....?
Quoting Jim Weller to Nancy Backus on 11-03-18 21:09 <=-
My friend the Flavour Trader is getting national recognition. He is
one of 13 young up and coming chefs being recognized by the Toronto
Globe and Mail this year.
Very good for him... :)
He also won the tender call for the management contract at the
restaurant inside our Territorial museum, the Prince of Wales
Northern Heritage Centre. The Museum Cafe is being renamed Saveurs
De L'Artisan.
(The museum guy just moved over to the Legislative
Assembly (equivalent of your State Congress Capitol Building) dining room). These are both highly sought after positions and great opportunities as it gives a chef creative control over an upscale
menu and access to a discerning and elite customer base without a
capital outlay for premises and equipment. The place has 71 seats
and a staff of 8.
He is partnering with Calvin Rossouw, the now-ex-sous-chef at the
award winning (won bronze for it's cream ale at The Canadian Brewing Awards) NWT Brewing Company's brew pub, The Woodyard Brewhouse And
Eatery, who's recipes I have posted here in the past. Both of them
are big on using local wild food in their dishes.
His old place will continue to serve takeout meals but it will only
offer two things a day, and be open from 12-2 Mon-Fri.
Joe Robertson built more than 50 bars throughout England,
but not a chain: each one was unique - JW
I trust he found able personnel to keep them....?
He was a major player in the 80's and the 90's. He's retired now
but most of his creations live on.
http://joerobertson.info/developments/
Quoting Nancy Backus to Jim Weller <=-
the Flavour Trader [...] won the tender call for the management
contract at the restaurant inside our Territorial museum
The museum guy just moved over to the Legislative Assembly
Will the prices keep you from being able to visit often....?
His old place will continue to serve takeout meals but it will only
offer two things a day, and be open from 12-2 Mon-Fri.
Will he be there for the time period, or will he have someone else handling that now...?
Quoting Jim Weller to Nancy Backus on 11-10-18 22:15 <=-
the Flavour Trader [...] won the tender call for the management
contract at the restaurant inside our Territorial museum
The museum guy just moved over to the Legislative Assembly
Will the prices keep you from being able to visit often....?
Both places have $14-$22 lunches with $7 soups, appetizers and
desserts, so maybe not every day but certainly periodically as a
treat. The menu is changed daily and posted on various social media
the evening before.
They both have great beverages and baked goods for coffee break time
too.
Here's yesterday's menus:
Cliff Cafe (in the "Ledge")
Soup of the day- Corn, potato and pancetta with chipotle and smoked Cheddar.
Catch of the day- Whitefish fish cakes with a peri peri glazed
baked arctic char and finished with a lime sour cream.
Feature of the day- Pan seared chicken with caramelized onion,
provolone, lettuce, tomato and roasted garlic mayo on rye.
Museum Cafe
Butter roasted Great Slave Lake Whitefish, with glazed carrots and
squash on a bed of barley risotto with goat cheese.
Bison & Morels stew with creamy scallop potatoes and a side of
medley salad with an apple cider & mustard dressing topped with
Okanagan valley apple
His old place will continue to serve takeout meals but it will only
offer two things a day, and be open from 12-2 Mon-Fri.
Will he be there for the time period, or will he have someone else
handling that now...?
No, he'll be at the museum supervising the main venue.
NANCY BACKUS wrote to JIM WELLER <=-
Both places have $14-$22 lunches with $7 soups, appetizers and
desserts, so maybe not every day but certainly periodically as a
treat. The menu is changed daily and posted on various social media
the evening before.
That is a bit pricey but not too bad considering... Do they just serve lunch, or is dinner available too...?
Quoting Dave Drum to Nancy Backus on 11-14-18 12:25 <=-
Both places have $14-$22 lunches with $7 soups, appetizers and
desserts, so maybe not every day but certainly periodically as a
treat. The menu is changed daily and posted on various social media
the evening before.
That is a bit pricey but not too bad considering... Do they just serve
lunch, or is dinner available too...?
With the exchange rate that's U$10.60 to U$16.60 and U$5.25 soups.
What I expect in a decent but not "upscale" local/chain place around
the Great American Outback.
Wonder if you can get this @ one of Weller's places?
Title: St. Lawrence Market Banana Leaf Roasted Grouper
Categories: Seafood, Citrus, Herbs
NANCY BACKUS wrote to DAVE DRUM <=-
Both places have $14-$22 lunches with $7 soups, appetizers and
desserts, so maybe not every day but certainly periodically as a
treat. The menu is changed daily and posted on various social media
the evening before.
That is a bit pricey but not too bad considering... Do they just serve
lunch, or is dinner available too...?
With the exchange rate that's U$10.60 to U$16.60 and U$5.25 soups.
What I expect in a decent but not "upscale" local/chain place around
the Great American Outback.
I suppose.... I was taking into consideration the exchange rate making
it seem pricier, actually... but still is higher than I would usually spend for lunch, except perhaps the low end for lunch.... Of course, I don't patronize the chain places, and my choice of local places
generally have better than normal prices... ;)
On 11-17-18 12:15, Dave Drum <=-
spoke to Nancy Backus about restaurants and bars <=-
More than I would normally spend for lunch, too. I took my brother and
Ms Vicky to Red Robin for his b'day. For three of us eating burgers
(for them) and fish & chips (for me) and coffee, soda and water (for
me) the tab was near $44 before tip. Dead Robin and Steak & Shake are
Dale Shipp wrote to Dave Drum <=-
More than I would normally spend for lunch, too. I took my brother and
Ms Vicky to Red Robin for his b'day. For three of us eating burgers
(for them) and fish & chips (for me) and coffee, soda and water (for
me) the tab was near $44 before tip. Dead Robin and Steak & Shake are
Did he get the free hamburger for his birthday? We go there at least twice a year to get a free hamburger. Other order will be Fish &
chips. It is the one we like the best on this side of the Atlantic.
Only better one we've had was at a small restaurant in Ireland during a tour there -- but that is a bit far to travel:-}}
On 11-18-18 12:38, Dave Drum <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about restaurants and bars <=-
Did he get the free hamburger for his birthday? We go there at least twice a year to get a free hamburger. Other order will be Fish &
chips. It is the one we like the best on this side of the Atlantic.
Only better one we've had was at a small restaurant in Ireland during a tour there -- but that is a bit far to travel:-}}
Nope. TBH I wasn't aware of the deal. Or I senior momented it into oblivion. And no one mentioned that he was a "birthday boy" having
seen enough mawkish displays of staff warbling that Hill sisters drivel off key. We didn't want to start anything.
Dale Shipp wrote to Dave Drum <=-
Did he get the free hamburger for his birthday? We go there at least twice a year to get a free hamburger. Other order will be Fish &
chips. It is the one we like the best on this side of the Atlantic.
Only better one we've had was at a small restaurant in Ireland during a tour there -- but that is a bit far to travel:-}}
Nope. TBH I wasn't aware of the deal. Or I senior momented it into oblivion. And no one mentioned that he was a "birthday boy" having
seen enough mawkish displays of staff warbling that Hill sisters
drivel off key. We didn't want to start anything.
All one needs to do is to sign up for their loyalty program. They give you a card and you present it during your birthday month. No singing unless you want it. A lot of restaurants do something similar.
Quoting Dave Drum to Nancy Backus on 11-17-18 12:15 <=-
With the exchange rate that's U$10.60 to U$16.60 and U$5.25 soups.
What I expect in a decent but not "upscale" local/chain place around
the Great American Outback.
I suppose.... I was taking into consideration the exchange rate making
it seem pricier, actually... but still is higher than I would usually
spend for lunch, except perhaps the low end for lunch.... Of course, I
don't patronize the chain places, and my choice of local places
generally have better than normal prices... ;)
More than I would normally spend for lunch, too. I took my brother and
Ms Vicky to Red Robin for his b'day. For three of us eating burgers
(for them) and fish & chips (for me) and coffee, soda and water (for
me) the tab was near $44 before tip.
Dead Robin and Steak & Shake are
the only chains currently on my consideration list. And my local S&S
isn't quite as "chainy" as S&S would like - being the oldest Steak &
Shake franchise and marching to their own tune when they choose. I
lunch there most days when I am working. It's close, tasty, filling and pretty quick. My lunch is $4.34 plus tip out the door. Bv)=
NOTES: Taken from an original (1930s) Steak & Shake
instruction manual. I am assuming that the Japanese
Red Hots were ground at some point. This is not the
chilli that is currently in use at Steak & Shake.
Elsewhere in the book from which I took this there was
a menu listing that listed a bowl of chilli w/beans for
15 cents per serving. A quart of chilli for take out was
priced at 50 cents (4 servings) - UDD
NANCY BACKUS wrote to DAVE DRUM <=-
More than I would normally spend for lunch, too. I took my brother and
Ms Vicky to Red Robin for his b'day. For three of us eating burgers
(for them) and fish & chips (for me) and coffee, soda and water (for
me) the tab was near $44 before tip.
That's getting up there... but about what you'd expect for there... :)
Dead Robin and Steak & Shake are
the only chains currently on my consideration list. And my local S&S
isn't quite as "chainy" as S&S would like - being the oldest Steak &
Shake franchise and marching to their own tune when they choose. I
lunch there most days when I am working. It's close, tasty, filling and pretty quick. My lunch is $4.34 plus tip out the door. Bv)=
That's a lot better.... What do you get for that...?
NOTES: Taken from an original (1930s) Steak & Shake
instruction manual. I am assuming that the Japanese
Red Hots were ground at some point. This is not the
chilli that is currently in use at Steak & Shake.
As the Red Hots were dried, they might have been somewhat chopped already... or possibly they were left whole, to aid in picking them
out, should one land in a serving.... Similar to bay leaves, for
example.. ;)
Elsewhere in the book from which I took this there was
a menu listing that listed a bowl of chilli w/beans for
15 cents per serving. A quart of chilli for take out was
priced at 50 cents (4 servings) - UDD
Well, it WAS a while ago.... :)
Quoting Dave Drum to Nancy Backus on 11-21-18 07:39 <=-
And my local S&S
isn't quite as "chainy" as S&S would like - being the oldest Steak &
Shake franchise and marching to their own tune when they choose. I
lunch there most days when I am working. It's close, tasty, filling and
pretty quick. My lunch is $4.34 plus tip out the door. Bv)=
That's a lot better.... What do you get for that...?
Triple steakburger (w/tomato, onion, mayo) shoestring fries and two glasses of water w/lemon. Filling, tasty, quick - what's not to like?
Bv)=
NOTES: Taken from an original (1930s) Steak & Shake
instruction manual. I am assuming that the Japanese
Red Hots were ground at some point. This is not the
chilli that is currently in use at Steak & Shake.
As the Red Hots were dried, they might have been somewhat chopped
already... or possibly they were left whole, to aid in picking them
out, should one land in a serving.... Similar to bay leaves, for
example.. ;)
Or like the fried Japones in KungPao chicken. I freak out newby wait
staff at Tai Pan when I pop one onto my fly trap and chew it up. The regular staff is used to me.
Elsewhere in the book from which I took this there was
a menu listing that listed a bowl of chilli w/beans for
15 cents per serving. A quart of chilli for take out was
priced at 50 cents (4 servings) - UDD
Well, it WAS a while ago.... :)
And the minimum hourly wage in 1938 was U$0.25.
NANCY BACKUS wrote to DAVE DRUM <=-
Triple steakburger (w/tomato, onion, mayo) shoestring fries and two glasses of water w/lemon. Filling, tasty, quick - what's not to like?
Bv)=
Very good deal... :) Don't think we have any Steak and Shakes around here...
NOTES: Taken from an original (1930s) Steak & Shake
instruction manual. I am assuming that the Japanese
Red Hots were ground at some point. This is not the
chilli that is currently in use at Steak & Shake.
As the Red Hots were dried, they might have been somewhat chopped
already... or possibly they were left whole, to aid in picking them
out, should one land in a serving.... Similar to bay leaves, for
example.. ;)
Or like the fried Japones in KungPao chicken. I freak out newby wait
staff at Tai Pan when I pop one onto my fly trap and chew it up. The regular staff is used to me.
Yes, another thing that came to mind.... :)
Elsewhere in the book from which I took this there was
a menu listing that listed a bowl of chilli w/beans for
15 cents per serving. A quart of chilli for take out was
priced at 50 cents (4 servings) - UDD
Well, it WAS a while ago.... :)
And the minimum hourly wage in 1938 was U$0.25.
Exactly.
... Never assume anything (unless it's a 4% mortgage).
Quoting Dave Drum to Nancy Backus on 11-26-18 12:08 <=-
Very good deal... :) Don't think we have any Steak and Shakes around
here...
According to the Wiki: "Steak 'n Shake is an American casual
restaurant chain located primarily in the Midwestern and Southern
United States with locations also in the Mid-Atlantic and Western
United States, Europe, and the Middle East."
The only Steak & Shake in New York AFAIK is/was on Broadway in
Manhattan.
I'm pretty sure they'd not have been able to survive NYC rents
charging the same Midwest pricing that I see. IIRC they also offered
beer and wine. Unsure if they are still open.
They started about 60 miles north of me Feb. 1934 in Normal, IL. My
local franchise is the oldest franchisee in Steak & Shake. Currently
the chain is head-quartered in Indianapolis.
... Never assume anything (unless it's a 4% mortgage).
Actually my mortgage is a 2 3/4%, 15 year, fixed rate. I think I
bought at the nadir of mortgage rates. I'm certainly not going to
re-fi.
NANCY BACKUS wrote to DAVE DRUM <=-
Very good deal... :) Don't think we have any Steak and Shakes around
here...
According to the Wiki: "Steak 'n Shake is an American casual
restaurant chain located primarily in the Midwestern and Southern
United States with locations also in the Mid-Atlantic and Western
United States, Europe, and the Middle East."
Pretty much any place but here.... ;0
The only Steak & Shake in New York AFAIK is/was on Broadway in
Manhattan.
I'm pretty sure they'd not have been able to survive NYC rents
charging the same Midwest pricing that I see. IIRC they also offered
beer and wine. Unsure if they are still open.
Most likely, if they still exist there, they are charging higher... or they make a killer business with lower prices and LOTS of volume.... ;)
They started about 60 miles north of me Feb. 1934 in Normal, IL. My
local franchise is the oldest franchisee in Steak & Shake. Currently
the chain is head-quartered in Indianapolis.
I wonder if they had any stores in Crawfordsville IN, where we lived
for a couple of years, back in the early '50's.... not that far from Indianapolis....
... Never assume anything (unless it's a 4% mortgage).
Actually my mortgage is a 2 3/4%, 15 year, fixed rate. I think I
bought at the nadir of mortgage rates. I'm certainly not going to
re-fi.
Nope, that sounds like something that someone else might like to
assume, instead.... ;) You certainly did get in at the right point...
:)
Quoting Dave Drum to Nancy Backus on 11-29-18 05:49 <=-
The only Steak & Shake in New York AFAIK is/was on Broadway in
Manhattan.
I'm pretty sure they'd not have been able to survive NYC rents
charging the same Midwest pricing that I see. IIRC they also offered
beer and wine. Unsure if they are still open.
Most likely, if they still exist there, they are charging higher... or
they make a killer business with lower prices and LOTS of volume.... ;)
I went and looked - that location has taken the gas pipe. Oddly I
didn't see a single negative review in Yelp or Trip Advisor - which is *very* unusual.
They started about 60 miles north of me Feb. 1934 in Normal, IL. My
local franchise is the oldest franchisee in Steak & Shake. Currently
the chain is head-quartered in Indianapolis.
I wonder if they had any stores in Crawfordsville IN, where we lived
for a couple of years, back in the early '50's.... not that far from
Indianapolis....
There is one (I have eaten there) on US231 about mid-way between Home Depot and Wally World. I doubt that any of them were there in the
early '50s. Bv)=
But the General Lew Wallace tourist traps were all in place. Bv)=
... Never assume anything (unless it's a 4% mortgage).
Actually my mortgage is a 2 3/4%, 15 year, fixed rate. I think I
bought at the nadir of mortgage rates. I'm certainly not going to
re-fi.
Nope, that sounds like something that someone else might like to
assume, instead.... ;) You certainly did get in at the right
point... :)
I'm within a grand of being paid off. The only reason I don't just
write a cheque for the balance is that the escrow for my home owners
and taxes is worth the tiny dab of interest I pay. Bv)=
NANCY BACKUS wrote to DAVE DRUM <=-
Most likely, if they still exist there, they are charging higher... or
they make a killer business with lower prices and LOTS of volume.... ;)
I went and looked - that location has taken the gas pipe. Oddly I
didn't see a single negative review in Yelp or Trip Advisor - which is *very* unusual.
Maybe they went under before Yelp or Trip Advisor...?
They started about 60 miles north of me Feb. 1934 in Normal, IL. My
local franchise is the oldest franchisee in Steak & Shake. Currently
the chain is head-quartered in Indianapolis.
I wonder if they had any stores in Crawfordsville IN, where we lived
for a couple of years, back in the early '50's.... not that far from
Indianapolis....
There is one (I have eaten there) on US231 about mid-way between Home Depot and Wally World. I doubt that any of them were there in the
early '50s. Bv)=
I didn't really think so... I was pretty young back then... started kindergarten our second year there... ;)
But the General Lew Wallace tourist traps were all in place. Bv)=
Don't remember any of them, either... :)
... Never assume anything (unless it's a 4% mortgage).
Actually my mortgage is a 2 3/4%, 15 year, fixed rate. I think I
bought at the nadir of mortgage rates. I'm certainly not going to
re-fi.
Nope, that sounds like something that someone else might like to
assume, instead.... ;) You certainly did get in at the right
point... :)
I'm within a grand of being paid off. The only reason I don't just
write a cheque for the balance is that the escrow for my home owners
and taxes is worth the tiny dab of interest I pay. Bv)=
Nice to have them handling that... :) Besides, if you itemize deductions, come tax time, that's about the only interest that is
still deductible....
Quoting Dave Drum to Nancy Backus on 12-01-18 06:01 <=-
Most likely, if they still exist there, they are charging higher... or
they make a killer business with lower prices and LOTS of volume.... ;)
I went and looked - that location has taken the gas pipe. Oddly I
didn't see a single negative review in Yelp or Trip Advisor - which is
*very* unusual.
Maybe they went under before Yelp or Trip Advisor...?
According to the internet sources I looked at their run was from Dec.
2012 to Nov. 2017 - right in the middle of the theater district.
I also looked at the listed menu prices. Pretty much what I pay here
in the Great American Outback ..... which is counter-intuitive. NYC is UBER EXPENSIVE. Even if not smack in the middle of Broadway.
I did find one bad Yelp review - after ticking the box for the
low-end. From an obvious loser in the Darwinian gene dance.
"I eat out every night in Midtown. I tried this.
I was looking for an all organic meal. They serve organic MEAT. But
the CHEESE AND BREAD IS NOT ORGANIC and therefore, NOT VERY HEALTHY
FOR YOU, ESPECIALLY IF IT IS GMO. What is the point in offering
ORGANIC meat if you are going to screw it up with NON ORGANIC other ingredients??? "
Ground Control to Reviewer .... "What colour is the sky on your home planet?"
But the General Lew Wallace tourist traps were all in place. Bv)=
Don't remember any of them, either... :)
If you ever get back there it (Gen. Wallace) might make make an interesting visit. His claim to fame is being the author of Ben Hur - which was a tiresome book but an OK movie.
... Never assume anything (unless it's a 4% mortgage).
Actually my mortgage is a 2 3/4%, 15 year, fixed rate. I think I
bought at the nadir of mortgage rates. I'm certainly not going to
re-fi.
Nope, that sounds like something that someone else might like to
assume, instead.... ;) You certainly did get in at the right
point... :)
I'm within a grand of being paid off. The only reason I don't just
write a cheque for the balance is that the escrow for my home owners
and taxes is worth the tiny dab of interest I pay. Bv)=
Nice to have them handling that... :) Besides, if you itemize
deductions, come tax time, that's about the only interest that is
still deductible....
I made my January stroke yesterday. $127 principal, $133 escrow of
taxes and insurance, $3.49 interest.
I do itemise - but every year Turbo Tax says I'm better off taking the standard deduction. We'll see what they say in January after the
recent (claimed) "middle class tax break".
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