• 194 our chiving on was hea + various, dangers

    From MICHAEL LOO@1:123/140 to NANCY BACKUS on Wednesday, August 22, 2018 13:27:34
    These distinctions are more descriptive than
    anything else, and calling those recipes Native
    is pretty misleading or wrongheaded, not
    ethnically offensive or anything like that.
    I saw the recipes as an effort to find ways of using the white corn that
    they decided to work on bringing back....

    Oh, sure, and using the proper name as a trademark
    rather than a cultural identifier. Similarly, most
    Quaker recipes aren't of Quaker origin. Which reminds
    me, I chortled in a black humoristic way upon reading
    that Quaker oats were recalled for being contaminated
    with Round-Up.

    I can't think of any culinary technique that is
    unique to North America and just a few foods
    or food combinations. Succotash maybe (one of
    those happy protein-combining accidents that
    people like to think of as by design). Pretty
    much everything originated elsewhere or at
    least has elsewhere influences.
    What about jerky...?

    I actually knew you were going to bring that up,
    but consider biltong, Bundnerfleisch, and the
    various dried meats that nomadic peoples made
    and are probably the ancestors of the latter
    of these two. Also somewhat related Chinese
    rou si and rou gan. If you'd said pemmican, I'd
    have said "maybe,"

    I tend to think of protein foods as being first those with complete protein, and of a reasonable percentage thereof, and then, second, the combinations of foods that complete the proteins in a reasonable percentage... such as rice and beans, etc...
    But would one think of rice or beans in isolation
    as a protein food, that's the issue.
    Some people do seem to think of beans as a protein food in isolation,
    from what I've been seeing in my reading...

    They're not really complete, but what it takes for
    completion is simply got from most starchy foods.
    Not that they're not starchy in themselves.

    +

    It was no worse than any other kind of TV host
    combination. Captain Antiquariangaroo was actually
    kind of witty. Now that I think of it, the
    hostess was named Dana something - the first time
    I recall ever encountering that as a female name.
    The organ builder/restorer that restored the Hook and Hook tracker organ
    our church bought (at our old location, and with lots of grunt help from
    some of us), was named Dana Hull... very much female... ;) That was the first time I encountered it as a female name... :)

    Organ building and restoration has plenty of heavy
    lifting and would have been a very nontraditional
    profession for a woman. Which sort of allows me to
    mention a nightclub in Adams Morgan called Madam's
    Organ, which I deliberately omitted from my
    discussion with Dale about that area.

    Actually, women's inclusion into such professions is
    a pretty modern thing. The maker of one of my violins,
    Marilyn Wallin, was the first female president of the
    Violin Society of America, just a couple decades ago.
    She's currently first vice-president.

    I'd rather watch the former than the latter. I've seen a few "Picker" shows--they can turn up some of the oddest things in the least likely places..................
    For me the fat guy wins every time, though what he
    represents as odd sometimes I see as commonplace.
    Well, you have had a wider experience than most... ;)

    Well, I can't bring any examples right to my
    fingertips (not being a regular viewer), but I'm sure
    the Shipps and other watchers could come up with some
    pretty tame foods described as bizarre on the shows.

    we can do a taste test at the picnic if I can find a can of it.
    If you mean Read's German Potato Salad, that's readily available at Wegmans... :)
    Michael nixed the idea of a taste off at the picnic. I understand, as
    I'd rather have the home made over the canned. I knew it was Read's but just blanked on the spelling. Had gotten some Reid's cinnamon life
    savers a couple of days before....................
    If anyone else wants to invest the buck or two
    for a can, far be it from me to discourage its
    opening. Far be it from me to encourage such
    irresponsible behavior, either.
    Along the same lines as the occasionally threatened opening of a can of LaChoy chop suey...? (G)

    Or was it chow mein - again a subject I'm not really
    invested in.

    ---------- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.00

    Title: Chow Mein Casserole
    Categories: Main dish, Oriental, wwtt
    Yield: 4 servings

    1 lb Hamburger 3/4 c Celery; chopped
    3/4 c Onion; chopped 1 1/4 c Boiling water
    1/2 c Uncooked rice 1/2 t Salt
    1 ea Can chicken and rice soup 4 oz Mushrooms
    1 T Brown sugar 2 t Soy sauce
    1 t Butter or margarine 1 1/2 c Chow mein noodles

    Cook and stir hamburger, celery and onion until hamburger is light brown,
    then drain. Pour water on rice and add salt in greased 2qt casserole.
    Stir
    in hamburger, soup, mushrooms, sugar, soy sauce and margarine. Cover and
    cook in 350f oven for 30 min; stir. Cook uncovered for 30 min longer.
    Stir
    in noodles, serve immediately.
    Note: Water chestnuts or bamboo shoots may be added if desired.
    Source unknown

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